Higher taxes incoming on Tueaday

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If you earn £100-£125k you currently pay income tax at a marginal rate of 63%. This isn’t enough for the SNP who next Tuesday are increasing it to 65%. 🤯 in what world is this a reasonable thing to do, when money is being wasted left right and centre by these imbeciles on embassies with no political purpose, ferry contracts so bad we pay 10 x the going rate, and a department for constitutional affairs who’s whole purpose is outwith the devolution agreement. We’ve just spent millions trying to get the GRR past section 35 when the case was so weak it took 46 seconds for the judge to throw it out and rUK are (quite rightly) considering asking for the Scottish government to pay their costs.

I don’t mind paying more taxes for the child poverty measures, but raising taxes to allow these fiscally incontinent 5 year olds to waste again and again and again is farcical.

@Meeplemakeglasgow and my point is that islanders can’t get to hospital appointments if there are no ferries whereas anyone on the mainland will have an alternative irrespective of whether there is a train. The alternative maybe expensive, but there is always an alternative.

Island communities are literally cut off from that basic option.

Ha ha @Meeplemakeglasgow you did it again. Everyone has had enough of the whataboutery. Give it up.

Not getting half an hour quicker to London is really not the same thing as not getting to your chemo appointment on the mainland.

Nice attempt to pull on the heartstrings there but unfortunately that doesn’t change the fact that the ferry mess is a drop in the ocean compared to the HS2 mess and the PPE Mess.

All political parties in the UK have shown monumental incompetence in the last decade, including but far from only the SNP.

I made this point because some on this thread seem to be under the illusion that there is competent governance in England.

Thanks 🙂

Yes, and it’s shite.

But what makes you believe that any other political party would have done any better?

The Conservatives after all couldn’t build a train line or make safe PPE.

Labour can’t even decide on a policy.

This isn’t excusing the SNP for the ferry fiasco, they made a balls-up of it.

They are however in good company.

Putting emotion into an argument doesn’t change the facts.

Yes they fucked up building a boat, would you have trusted Boris, Dougie Ross or Liz Truss to do a better job?

@Meeplemakeglasgow not hearstrings just the reality of island life being pointed out to someone who has never ever had to consider the actual reality of island life as if you has you would know that ferries are a lifeline service. But hey ho just another ignorant mainlander.

Na, I’d rather spend my time pointing out the hypocrisy here if it’s all the same thanks..

It doesn't matter who I trust or not, enough people in Scotland (not me) trusted the SNP to run Scotland's devolved matters to their benefit and they fucked up. This has nothing to do with Boris or Rishi or Liz, stop distracting.

As I’ve mentioned (several times), I am not excusing the ferry mess.

It’s an issue and it deserves scrutiny.

But it’s not as if there is another competent political party who would have been guaranteed to do a good job of it.

As an islander do you think that all of these people who are using ferrys as a rallying cry really give a shit about them or just see it as an avenue to attack the SNP?

Yeah ok,

Despite me clearly saying several times I’m not an SNP Voter and not being the one who brought up ferries or Uni places I’m the one who’s distracting?

Just because I’m calling out people who are throwing their toys out of the pram over a tax rise.

@Meeplemakeglasgow you were certainly very flippant about the ferry fiasco in your earlier post and have continued to be so throughout showing a complete lack of understanding or care about the very real impact this is continuing to have on people’s lives.

Would another party have been any better, who knows but that doesn’t excuse our government who are in charge and therefore must be held accountable for it.

Yes, when you throw Boris et al into the discussion about Scottish ferries or university admissions that is a distraction. What's it got to do with them?

and when have i ever said they shouldn’t?

The only point I was making is that people who were threatening to leave the country because of the SNP were living in a fantasy land if they believe that the politicians in England were any more competent.

Whataboutery at its dreariest

F*ck me..

Ill try this slowly, try to follow along.

1. This thread is about tax rises in Scotland

2. During the discussion many people advised they were considering leaving Scotland, mostly because their opinion of the SNP’s governance was low.

3. Some of the reasons given were the tax rises (obviously), Uni Places, Ferries, possible corruption.

4. The destination of choice for most of these people was England.

5. Now I made the point that if anyone is expecting to live under competent government in England they are clearly incorrect.

6. I used examples such as HS2 as it shows the same level of incompetence as the ferries.

Now here is the complicated (for you) part.

Just because I’m pointing out the equivalence in competency level in regards to the two governments does not mean that I believe the SNP have done a good job or shouldn’t be held to account for the mistakes they have made.

I am not a ‘nasty-Nat’ or ‘cyber-Nat’ or whatever buzzword is in vogue these days.

Many on here can’t seem to understand this, including you unfortunately.

Either blinded by bias or by difficulty in thinking.

In England we get one incompetent government who we can vote out next year.

In Scotland we get one we can vote out next year and the shower of shite SNP / Green nutters who are in post until 2026. And barely anyone voted for nutty Harvey, Looney Lorna or poor sad Mad Maggie.

Boris was dethroned. Truss was busted.

Here we got Nicola's continuity candidate who actually defended 11k iPad man after all his lies.

The thing is @Meeplemakeglasgow you can say all you like that you're not a "nat" but we've seen this before and you're not fooling us. Quite frankly at the moment I'd take any other government over the SNP/Greens continuous frequent record of fuck ups corruption and failure.

They claimed independence would free us from corruption as oor scoatish politicians are better. Not really seeing it. 🤔

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 A wee reminder that the tax has and will be used for the Scottish Child Payment. This isn’t available anywhere else on these isles.

Bairns right across Scotland are benefiting from its creation. So, what’s it worth?

£26.70 per week

£1,388,40 per year

Total number recipients across Scotland - 323,315

Total financial cost to Scot Gov - £457,300,000

Total value to society - 50,000 (est) kids out of relative poverty.

Worth it? Absolutely.

Nice that the nats are signalling their posts with the wee saltire. Makes them easy to avoid.

No one is listening to any moral lectures from the party that wants to let minors legally self ID as the opposite sex.

And that's lovely but the point is we need people in Scotland to pay the tax so that payments like this can happen. Tip the balance too far making it unattractive for high earners to live in Scotland and there will be less income for the Scottish govt.

People aren't going to pay the extra tax, though, Ineed, they'll put the money into their pensions instead, or go part time.

That's what I'm going to do, I'm going to drop half a day a week at work.

I have been perfectly happy paying the additional tax up until now, but this latest one, given what the Scottish Government have been up to over the last 12 months (well, longer, but it's really racheted up a notch), what they're doing to women and children, the dire (and worsening!) state of education, that Glasgow is humming... just the fact that EVERYTHING is on the slide, and the SNP & S.Greens don't even care! They truly do not care, they think their job is to 'spin the narrative' and do favours for their friends, they have no sense of duty about running the country well. Anyway, this has given me the kick up the bum I need to have a rethink about how I'm spending my time. I probably should have done this a few years ago.

It’s funny the SNP people on social media that say the only way to beat the Tories in Scotland is to vote SNP not Labour. when 90% of people are voting either for the SNP or whoever is in the best position to beat the SNP. I haven’t looked at anything other than the tactical voting app when deciding which party to vote for for years. I’d vote monster raving looney if it kept the SNP out for the simple reason that independence would be so mindblowingly damaging for everyone in Scotland.

Yes the Tories are horrendously corrupt but the SNP’s embarrassing ineptitude means that they are equally terrible. The comical-if-it-weren’t-so-bloody-serious ‘I don’t know what my chromosomes are’ chat, the way the SNP MSPs try out their mock-Scot’s in Parliament, the giving the ferry contract to the company that gives them the best PR even tho that company doesn’t know it’s arse from its elbow, the rent freeze that sends rental prices through the roof (like everyone told them it would), the uncosted council tax freeze, the sheer financial illiteracy, and yes the corruption make the SNP a joke party.