Sex education on sexuality for 8 year olds - what do you think?

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I found this a very concerning read. 8 year olds being required to look at nude photos of adults, and a detailed illustration of a vulva, and to discuss their feelings about bodies large and small. Also "interesting" that the male nude has been photoshopped to have long hair.
Apparently children are showing real discomfort at the content and some teachers are refusing to teach it.

Scots teachers refuse to teach 'sexuality petals' and full frontal nude images to primary aged kids - Scottish Daily Express

It’s exactly where Scottish Government wants us to be . The professional LGB rights lobby are very successful and Patrick Hervie the Greens leader believes in Queer theory whose end point is sexualisation of children . Time parents got to grip with this and challenged it . Can they do this without being called bigots or whatever? See how clever these weirdos are ……..

Scotgov is so poor at anything serious but they can happily bang on about trans stuff to keep the very odd Greens happy .

There was a quote the other day about the Indians being able to send a rocket to the moon for £36 million and we can’t even build a ferry for that .

The naked picture is from a P6 lesson. I remember loving and growing and we saw naked people in that too.

I'm not sure why a male having long hair is offensive to you.

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I don’t see the issue with children seeing an image of a nude human body in school, it is educational surely? Should children not understand human anatomy by end of primary school?

Our school teach Sex Ed and sure, it can be a little uncomfortable for some kids, but important for all to understand the basics.

The idea that this is somehow reflecting an agenda to sexualise children sounds like a a tired old journo trying to come up with a story before clocking off on a Friday.

Please fill this in; https://consult.gov.scot/learning-directorate/teaching-guidance-for-relationships-sexual-health/

My ds is 10. School have shared all lesson materials with us to date and no naked adults have been shown yet. If they are this year (p6) then I am ok with that as puberty is just around the corner and there will be lots of “is this normal” questions.

The ops title is tosh as well . I see this thread time and time again on here .

My daughter reached puberty at 10 yrs old. I've heard of girls starting even younger. They need to understand their body and basic sex education by that time. It's not knowing that will get them in trouble. Knowledge is power. Be honest with them and they will trust you and talk to you.

Yes, most girls start at age ten. It's frightening for them if they don't understand what is going on with their bodies.

It is frustrating when you want to keep something hidden and people keep posting about it, isn’t it?

The lessons are literally on a website for ANYONE to access at ANY point.

BUT incase you're not able to use Google, the website is RSHP.

Interesting. I don't have an issue with nudity and body parts being taught explicitly. The children learning about sexuality is also OK in my opinion and making homosexuality a normal part of that learning is essential. I would want to know exactly how a 'chat' about children's own sexuality is facilitated as for many kids at that age it will be new to them and obviously very sensitive.
I have trawled through all the RHSP stuff before now and don't have a problem with alot of it and yes I agree there is ALOT to trawl through. I have asked many parents if they've looked at the resources and I've yet to meet one who has.

I do wonder why the teachers in the express article are specifically not mentioning the teaching of transgender as fact as this is taught in p5. I can only presume they are including that in 'sexuality' which of course its not. Gender ideology is also through other areas of rhsp eg in the teaching about menstruation there is a line which says 'its important to remember that not all girls menstruate '.
If this is indeed the real reason they're refusing to teach some lessons I am really reassured by that. Gender ideology is being taught in primary schools and our headteacher in particular agrees that it's not right but says she and all teachers are powerless to do anything about it. She ignores the fact that accountability for the specific way in which RHSP is taught lies with the headteacher.
If teachers are tentatively trying to push back on this its only a good thing.

I wouldn’t have had an issue with my children seeing pictures of the male and female body at that age, or younger. The part about the petals and sexuality could be problematic and does sound a bit weird. Children should know about different sexualities but I think many children wouldn’t be comfortable talking about their own sexuality, if they’ve even thought about it. And the spirituality part just sounds weird.

I’m glad my youngest only had a couple of years of school to go. The lessons she has like this have had some questionable stuff in about gender.

Discussing sexuality of prepubescent children? Who would possibly wish to sexualise prepubescent children?

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There’s a u tube video of some angry parents in Perthshire questioning John Swinney and a team about this . One of the fathers was reading out aloud to the gathering exactly what was taught to his primary school children and was asked to stop immediately as it was far too explicit and graphic . He refused and made them listen . Pretty damning . Trust me ladies get a grip of this, it’s not good and heading in one direction .

Excellent. I'll look that up.

You need to confirm your age to watch it!

From memory, the bit in question is nearer the end

OK, interesting. I watched the video where one man from the Scottish family party ( can't remember his name) reads out some of the resources taught to secondary school on pornography.
I have not looked into secondary school teaching for rhsp but my gut feeling is that some level of teaching about poronograhy and the dangers of seeing it too young and mixing it up with actual real sex needs to be taught. But he also disagrees with teaching about masturbation which i dont agree with. Kids need to know masturbation is normal. I'd prefer it to be discussed by parents rather than teachers but clearly not everyone thinks that. It was quite telling that the woman hosting the talk was appalled at the words being said.
I'd never heard of the Scottish family party so looked it up. I started watching a video where this guy talks through the videos shown to primary kids, upper primary school.
He dislikes the kids being taught the correct parts, feels its vulgar, and doesn't want the kids to be taught about sex. I disagree with all he said. If that's the gist of what's being disagreed with in the paper article I disagree but I have a feeling its not just that but we'll never know because no-one wants to be seen as 'transphobic'.

It was quite telling that the woman hosting the talk was appalled at the words being said.

Just to be clear, it was being live-streamed with no age warning so part of her horror was young families could potentially have been listening. But also there are a lot of parents who are more conservative in their approach than you. They are entitled to bring up a child in accordance with their beliefs.

What you're referring to only has man talking about secondary age lessons and the word anus.?!

It was a bit more than that wasn’t it?

He talked about licking anus, anal sex, promotion of pornography, promotion of gender identity.

I also am not sure where the '8 year olds discussing their sexuality' is based on?