King Charles III head of state of an independent Scotland.

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I didn't realise this was the SNP position on this! 😳

Cakeism?

I don't understand. Why would this be impossible? I presume that's what you mean by cakes.

*cakeism

Whether it's wanting to have your cake and eat it is very much up for debate.

On the one hand, the SNP wants to dismantle the island as a unit of government, spend time and effort setting up two lots of everything- instead of spending time and effort on other things, have an international border between Scotland and England yet keep the currency and the RF.

It doesn't feel 'modern' or 'progressive', in the way the SNP portray themselves.

Not my opinion.

Did they declare 10 days of SNP bashing along with the national mourning?Everywhere I look on social media someone is having a go this morning.

I think it may be to try to keep the monarchist independence vote (if such a thing exists). Not try to change too much at the one time?

If the UK's monarch can be head of state in Commonwealth countries, why couldn't that be the case in an independent Scotland too? It saves tham having to design a new constitution to create a president style figure head.

There's no reason I can see that it couldn't be the head of an independent Scotland. It's whether it's consistent with the stated aims of an independent Scotland that interests me.

I agree that an independent Scotland is likely to be more appealing to socially conservative voters with the current RF still it's head of state.

Any pro Indy supporters clued up on the 1707 Act of the Unions ?

I would have thought that the Acts of Union is separate (legally speaking) from the Union of the Crowns, from an unpicking perspective. Given that they were 100+ years apart when they originally happened.

And I'd also guess that you'd have to dismantle the union parliamentarily (that isn't a word but you know what I mean) before you get to the royalty/head of state aspect. So maybe it's a 'stages of the process' thing?

Personal opinion — I actually think this messaging is about expectation management for independence supporters; something along the lines of 'don't be thinking we'll be a republic just yet, even if independence is voted for'. Because there's a lot more to it than just dissolving the Acts of Union.

Wether a future independent scotland should be a republic is surely a decision for the voters of an independent scotland.
The union of the crowns is completely separate from the act of union. 100 years seperate as pp have said.

I personally would vote for an end to the monarchy but peoples views must be respected . In the event of a yes vote for independence the parties will
Have a general election and it's up to each party what they put in a manifesto and up to the people of scotland to decide. Much like barbados did recently.

My belief is that this position was adopted pre the 2014 referendum and it was designed to reassure people - after all, there was a lot of love for the queen in Scotland, as we've seen recently.

There's also the point that people really care about things like this - who'll be on the banknotes and what colour will my passport be were serious questions asked around 2014 by lots and lots of people. (My source for this would be outing, but it is bona fide.)

Back then I believed this was a reassurance position, one less bridge to cross, sort of thing - I don't believe for one minute that the SNP is full of monarchists. I'm surprised that they've restated it so quickly to be honest. I think it's something they'll revise if there's another ref.

There's a very interesting Spotlight programme on this on BBC iplayer from BBC N Ireland.

Ooh thanks @17to35

It’s to generate more votes for independence. . They know it will appeal to older voters who might be sitting on fence . Royals actually are financially good for country . They cost 300 million but bring in around 1.6 billion .

I thought this had always been their stance? I had thought the move for independence was to sever the union of the Parliaments, not of the Crowns.