Scottish higher tax rate threshold

[Srit]

Her name changed for this, just pondering the facts rather than the politics.

One of the measure apparently being considered by new WM government is to raise the threshold at which higher income tax applies from just over 50k to 80k, in Scotland that threshold is 43.6k plus of course the higher rate of tax.

Anyone know what powers the SG have regarding the threshold? I believe there's a limit to how much the rate can be changed, but can't find anything out about the thresholds.

Yes, my point is the Scottish Government engaged with the nurses with an increased offer. I’m happy for my tax to fund that.

But you’re just buying into a plaster over a wound there. I have nhs consultants in my family and the nhs in Scotland is in dire straits. As it is in all of the uk.

I think the overall point is that public services are a mess in Scotland and Nicola sturgeon seems to focus on theoretical policies more often than the ones that are truly having huge impact on many peoples health and well-being.

jyst recently John swimmer claimed there was no extra money for staff who were striking in schools (unison) and suddenly Nicola was involved and sorted it. Nhs wait times in a&e were awful, acknowledged by Humana you sec and then miraculously better in a few days after he declared ‘something would be done’. But the decreased wait times had already happened- it’s manipulative politics.

Wceryone paying more taxes doesn’t help these services automatically- schools are struggling and the nhs truly are. Taxing an already overburdened middle sect of society won’t help any growth.

we already have a smaller amount of top top earners and this will only encourage people to move elsewhere.

You’re essentially Saying that those on higher tax bands in the NHS and teachers should pay more tax, and so are then paying for their ‘pay rises.’

I don't think you understand how tax works to be honest.

Teachers are not ' paying for their pay rises.' Also,in reference to your previous point, teachers are not deemed ' the highest earners in society ' as teachers are not and will not be in the highest tax bracket.

We were also given a decent wage rise not that long ago.

Also, re the GCC strikes, Labour spent millions contesting the equal pay whereas it's just gone through under the SNP.

'Schools are struggling ' on what experience and know how do you base this on?

But Scotland doesn't have that many in the highest tax bracket it does have teachers in the middle bracket because it's set at 43k.
It's also difficult to recruit senior positions in the NHS you only have to look at Dundee oncology dept for that one!
The number of ft working GPs is also down and who can blame them to be part time when they deal with crazy work loads and high tax.

Once I stop nursery fees I will be doing exactly the same as others and bolstering my pension so I can hopefully retire before 70!
There is a fine balance between taxing people and putting people off accepting jobs.
I am glad that they have redirected the 20 mill to poverty instead of wasting it on another court case they would lose

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-snps-tax-hikes-wont-work/

how do I not understand how tax works? If and when teachers receive any kind of pay rise, it will take them over the 43,600 threshold. So they will be in that bracket- how much will be determined on what pay increase is eventually awarded. But the government will get even more tax back because it will be taxed at a higher rate when moved into this bracket. So, you are wrong. Many teachers with any promotion already refuse to mark for the sqa because of paying the higher tax rate. So it will be inexperienced teachers volunteering. So I’m not sure why you seem to think teachers are nowhere near this tax bracket?

The ‘great’ pay rise was a few years ago and it was 10% over 3 years..so it wasn’t that great.

‘schools are struggling’ Im a teacher. Don’t assume that my opinions must be wrong because you disagree.

I also wasn’t talking about the GCC equality strikes. There were generalised strikes that were called off last minute after sturgeon miraculously found money that Swinney said Scotland didn’t have..

The amount of extra tax our family will pay is huge! Loads of people will say you afford it but as with other posters I’ll make sure I max my pension contributions. Then reduce other spending as much as I can so not same amount of money spent locally which is where I try and spend. Taxes raised will not fix the NHS the system is broken.

My place of work is England, I WFH and commute every other week for a few days - looking to move my residence south makes a lot of financial sense as my DC are older.

dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2022/12/sharp-rise-in-higher-rate-tax-payers-in-scotland/amp/

Also explains the discrepancy between Scotland and rest of the uk. No one seems to get so angry about ordinary, everyday people paying more tax in Scotland, with lower thresholds that haven’t moved for years. But when the rotors announce the freeze, there’s outrage about normal people being dragged into these tax brackets..it’s been happening for years here!

@Michellexxx when a pay deal is finally agreed the back dated pay will also be taxed to buggery. They know what they're doing.

I for one not being doing bank or extra shifts only to take home 36% of what I’ve earned. More people need to know about this and stop working extra, it doesn’t pay to be aband 7 in the nhs god knows how they’ll recruit in future