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SNP have spent the missing £600,000 funds.

26 replies

Ianrankinfan · 22/06/2021 17:49

According to an article in the Scotsman. .. could not get the link to work ...The new treasurer Colin Beattie has admitted that the money raised to pay for a 2 nd Indyref campaign has been spent by the party. The party has about £96;000 in the bank. .
After all the denials that the money was still there .. this is shocking.
Nicola Sturgeon had rejected the allegations that the funds were missing only 2 weeks ago. Colin Beattie said there may be a need for further fund raising... well who would donate now.

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GrandPrismatic · 22/06/2021 18:42

I read that in the Times too.
Would love to say I’m surprised.
I am surprised (and disappointed) however at the subdued reception of the news in the press.
SNP could get away with murder.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/06/2021 18:49

This is not new:

wingsoverscotland.com/the-great-indyref-swindle/#more-128906

Ianrankinfan · 22/06/2021 18:52

I am wondering too why it has not been more widely reported, for example on the BBC news ..

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Ianrankinfan · 22/06/2021 18:56

Title should read £600,000 !

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AlfonsoTheMango · 22/06/2021 19:00

Ah. I wondered why £600 was a big enough issue to remark on. £600,000 is another matter!

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 22/06/2021 19:07

I see they've been forced to admit that they have fact spent the funds on things other than it's stated purpose (probably because the police are investigating now) meaning they were lying when they claimed it would be 'ringfenced'. How is this not embezzlement? And why on earth is this not a huge scandal?! It's as though the media is so utterly terrified of the SNP that they can get way with anything.

Bytheloch · 22/06/2021 19:30

@Ianrankinfan

I am wondering too why it has not been more widely reported, for example on the BBC news ..
Isn’t it still a legal, ongoing situation- wasn’t there some Police involvement and hence it probably couldn’t be reported in MSM? Or is that another SNP scandal I’m getting confused with?

Some might say, the Andy Burnham rift amongst other stories has created a convenient noise over here, so folk are not looking over there anymore.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/06/2021 19:30

The police are still investigating, yes.

ElephantOfRisk · 22/06/2021 20:04

I think Swinney said there wasn't an investigation but police were vague and said something about looking to see if there was anything to look at. Confused Hmm

It was sold to supporters as ringfenced funds for indyref2 and looks like it was used to repay loans which were for campaign/election funds.

I get the impression from what little I've seen, that they are trying to both say that when money is donated and a specific target for that donation is requested, they do their best to honour that but it's not an exact science, and also saying that any spending by them is obviously always in support of Indyref2 overall as they need to be elected to do so.

All smoke and mirrors once again and if I'd donated for the indyref fund specifically then I think I'd be pretty angry. They also seem to be saying they will spend £600k on indyref but obviously they need to raise it again first (or borrow it again).

Couldn't be trusted to run a menage honestly.

Rhannion · 23/06/2021 19:59

@ElephantOfRisk

I think Swinney said there wasn't an investigation but police were vague and said something about looking to see if there was anything to look at. Confused Hmm

It was sold to supporters as ringfenced funds for indyref2 and looks like it was used to repay loans which were for campaign/election funds.

I get the impression from what little I've seen, that they are trying to both say that when money is donated and a specific target for that donation is requested, they do their best to honour that but it's not an exact science, and also saying that any spending by them is obviously always in support of Indyref2 overall as they need to be elected to do so.

All smoke and mirrors once again and if I'd donated for the indyref fund specifically then I think I'd be pretty angry. They also seem to be saying they will spend £600k on indyref but obviously they need to raise it again first (or borrow it again).

Couldn't be trusted to run a menage honestly.

Well said. What the hell us going on that the media aren’t all over this now. Nippy and her crew need to resign as they have lost the thin veneer of credibility that they had left.
SheldonesqueTheBstard · 23/06/2021 20:03

Deny.
Deny.
Deny.
Deny.
Deny.

Admit.

Credibility shot.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 23/06/2021 20:07

@SheldonesqueTheBstard

Deny. Deny. Deny. Deny. Deny.

Admit.

Credibility shot.

Grin this! Plus maybe a wee "but the tories/WM are worse" every so often
Patapouf · 23/06/2021 20:12

This is really problematic if it now affects a future referendum.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 23/06/2021 20:13

They could certainly shove a wee but in gibbons

Only now you’d be forgiven for thinking it is but deflection and is but hot air.

Windyref2 if you will.

Ianrankinfan · 23/06/2021 20:39

The SNP have not ring fenced the money for an Indy ref campaign. They have lied and used it for other purposes.... scam.

SNP supporters need to waken up .

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ElephantOfRisk · 23/06/2021 20:52

@Patapouf

This is really problematic if it now affects a future referendum.
Well they wouldn't win at the moment so it probably suits them.

As a non indy supporter, I'd quite like them to be told they can hold one in the next 3 months or fuck off, as they wouldn't win and they've got no campaign money anyway as they've spent it.

They'll just have to suck it up. At least when i was a child and spent my bus fare on sweeties i was well aware that i'd have to walk home and that I couldn't just stand at the bus stop until someone gave me more money.

Rhannion · 23/06/2021 22:02

@ElephantOfRisk

I think Swinney said there wasn't an investigation but police were vague and said something about looking to see if there was anything to look at. Confused Hmm

It was sold to supporters as ringfenced funds for indyref2 and looks like it was used to repay loans which were for campaign/election funds.

I get the impression from what little I've seen, that they are trying to both say that when money is donated and a specific target for that donation is requested, they do their best to honour that but it's not an exact science, and also saying that any spending by them is obviously always in support of Indyref2 overall as they need to be elected to do so.

All smoke and mirrors once again and if I'd donated for the indyref fund specifically then I think I'd be pretty angry. They also seem to be saying they will spend £600k on indyref but obviously they need to raise it again first (or borrow it again).

Couldn't be trusted to run a menage honestly.

That last comment made me laugh but is not funny at all to think they feel that they can use that money, given to them in good faith, for something other than its intended use. Thieving bastards
Rhannion · 23/06/2021 22:04

Surely someone could sue them?

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 23/06/2021 22:06

Why isn't this a bigger news story? It's pretty shocking, and considering how much press Boris got about the money to decorate his flat, this should be front page!

I can't see anything on BBC and it's not even in the Times Scotland section anymore. It feels like it has been swiftly pulled from view.

ElephantOfRisk · 23/06/2021 22:13

Surely someone could sue them?

I think someone threatened them and they refunded their money - they obviously can't do that for everyone but if even 20% of people requested it they'd be fucked.

Ianrankinfan · 23/06/2021 22:24

yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/06/03/so-you-want-your-cash-back/
I came across this .

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ElephantOfRisk · 23/06/2021 22:46

The problem is that they have available cash of about £90k but potential reclaims of £600k, at some point either the money will run out or it will be apparent that people are prepared to suck it all up and not bother asking or like Oliver, they will be forced to ask for more....will folks be daft enough to throw good money after bad? If they do , that tells you all you need to know about the folk we share this particular part of this spinning globe with.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 23/06/2021 23:01

Thanks for the link, @Ianrankinfan.
An interesting read. I was weirdly amused that the figure in question is not £600k but actually just above £666k.

ElephantOfRisk · 23/06/2021 23:03

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

Thanks for the link, *@Ianrankinfan*. An interesting read. I was weirdly amused that the figure in question is not £600k but actually just above £666k.
I read one article ages ago in some MSM where the amount kept reducing as you got further down - it ended up at about £500k, can't believe anything nowadays.
Gingerkittykat · 23/06/2021 23:49

As a former SNP supporter I've become more uneasy with the party recently. First the Salmond scandal, then the treatment of GC women and now this.

I wish there was a credible pro-indy opposition party to vote for.