Under 1s support changes

[Coldandcross]

Hi,
Has anyone seen anything further about what NS mentioned in her speech yesterday about supporting the parent of a child under-1 to be considered an essential reason to visit someone’s home? I can only find on the gov website that very vague wording. Will it be similar to England’s do you think where it has to be an exclusive bubble?
I’m thinking not as that’s not really the route they’ve gone down before, but it almost sounds too good to be true?!

You can have an extended household if you have a child under 1. Basically like a bubble

You can have an extended household even if you don't have a child under 1 too.

I'm trying to find more links too to show my parents. I sent them the screenshot yesterday all excited because, what a unexpected bit of good news...only for them to reply that they've taken it to mean it's only for single parents or those looking after disabled children.

Now I'm pretty sure they're wrong, and its for any parent of a child under one, but I don't know how to convince them. I thought they'd be delighted to come and see their new granddaughter! There's a link on the Scottish Sun website which is really clear that it is for all babies under one but I don't even know if they would trust that.

I took it to mean that people with a child under 1 can now have a visitor into their home for support reasons.

When I listened to it yesterday it certainly sounded like any household with a baby under 1 could have a visitor into their house to provide support.

Yeah I thought it sounded like any parent, or child under 1.
I know, my parents get themselves wrapped up in wording too @Dandelion78.
I don’t read it as needing to form an extended household though - what’s made you interpret it that way @hilbil21 ?
And yes, the Sun seems to be the only press that’s picked up on it...which isn’t the most credible source!

@Coldandcross just from a friend with a child under 1. I've not really looked into it as mine is 5

@hilbil21 I mean, on the one hand it’s great that it’s vague as it seems to be there can be a very broad interpretation, on the other hand I’m so tired of having to interpret stuff and make my own moral decisions 😂 I wish they would just spell it out for us!!

I think she said yesterday the wording was being changed to make it clearer so hopefully that will be done soon.

I just sent a message to Parent Club Scotland on their Facebook page asking if they might put a post up highlighting and explaining the new change. It's a government website so I think my parents might accept that as being a more reliable source of information.

Hopefully Parent Club will get something up soon.
I checked and the gov guidance page was updated yesterday, and that amendment to the section I posted added, so I think that’s maybe all we’re going to get 🤷🏼‍♀️

Well I would go with the vague!

Yes, think it's written so that it's not an extension to the support bubble definition, but rather another reason you can go into someone's house (to provide support if they have a child under 1).

Pity they didn't listen to parents about this one before now...and more than a bit daft/insensitive/showing a complete lack of understanding to limit it to age 1 when those of us who have just had or are coming up to our baby's 1st birthday had to deal with the early days of the pandemic and strict lockdown completely alone. Just as well a baby gets really easy just as they turn 1 and no more help or support is needed .

I just got this reply from Parent Club Scotland. I am definitely going to show my parents this tomorrow! As it's from a government site, hopefully that will be enough to convince them. Maybe helpful to other people on here too . It will be great if they pop something on their Facebook page soon.

Thanks for updating @Dandelion78.
And of course Parent Club are probably scrabbling for clarification as much as we are

I took it to mean that if you have a child under 1 you are counted as a vulnerable person for purposes of household visiting. So someone can enter to provide care, emotional support and to stop you becoming isolated.

I think that's exactly what she said actually.

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Hey, I just got a reply from Parent Club Scotland and they sent me what they'll be putting up on their website soon. Its pretty detailed so hopefully will be helpful.

I hope everyone currently home with young children are doing ok, hopefully it won't be long before we can get out and socialise properly with our babies

I meant to say as well, I'm sure most new mums have been feeling pretty alone and vulnerable at times over the past few months, so even though it says it's not for a social visit, it isn't really too big a stretch to treat any visit, whether it's from a friend or family member, as a pretty important welfare visit.

Has anybody managed to get a much needed visit yet?

I didn't know this was a thing.

I will be going to my friends house with her young child and baby.

@Dandelion78 not yet. My mum hasn't been vaccinated yet so she's still being cautious understandably. I have a 4yo and 3mo.