Without bashing Glasgow please can you explain why it has so many Covid cases? so

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I don't think people in Glasgow are less responsible than those in say Edinburgh. I know folk in both. Why is it worse? Poverty? Closer living?

@Namechangeforthis88

I'm fond of both cities. Edinburgh is fairly compact, I reckon a higher proportion of the population can walk everywhere they need to get to, avoiding public transport. Agree with previous posters that a higher proportion of the population in Edinburgh can work from home. With higher levels of deprivation in Glasgow, there might be more children school attendance due to being "vulnerable" (not a great term is it? I guess shorthand for "at higher risk of being disadvantaged".)

Actually yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but lots of Edinburgh is quite walkable.

I’d agree with most of what’s said.

Retail as well as industrial/factory employment that doesn’t pay when isolation is required.

It's failure to deal with the core issues of poverty as well.

I'm not in Glasgow or any of the higher level regions but as the entire country is going to be held to whatever is appropriate for Glasgow, I really wish they'd make more effort to identify what they can do to get the numbers down. By they I mean scotgov.

I think "rules" are being broken in fairly equal measures across the country so not Glasgow bashing,

@AngelaVanessa

“* There are also people (like my mother) who genuinely believe they are socially distancing, because although she has been inside at least three of her sisters' houses, she hasn't accepted a cup of tea hmm (Maybe there is something in the old Glasgow/Edinburgh joke that in Edinburgh you'll have had your tea. I don't know.)*”

Oh yes to this🤣
We have a friend ( not Glasgow) who cannot understand his FAMILY is not his HOUSEHOLD. Back in September when we were allowed to meet up he was organising an activity for some of us to do together. He was bringing his FAMILY (himself and wife, daughter, son in law and 2 kids, son and girlfriend- 3 households!!)
When the rest of us pointed out we were going to have 6 households and that wouldn’t be allowed he just didn’t get it

I honestly don't know the answer there is polar opposite in case numbers between Glasgow and Edinburgh.

I do believe that the Scottish government should attempt a Glasgow specific approach to try and work out the reasons why and target it heavily. Its not fair on people who live in Glasgow to be held for ages but also its not fair on the rest of the country is stricter because of high levels in Glasgow. They know there is high commuter areas between Glasgow and Edinburgh.

It is really upsetting to see the Glasgow cases today, and almost every day. What can the goverment realistically do? Will this £500 to self isolate for people on low wages help, maybe? What actual initiatives are there to cope with the root causes of this (poverty/deprivation?etc?)

You're right, it's so unfair on the people of Glasgow to have these rates. Especially as they had stricter measures in winter.

Could they just put a huge cash injection into Glasgow? Would that work? I might have a really rubbish understanding of this though.

It’s showing that lockdown does not work

Hmm, as I said before, I think the fact that Glasgow's more multicultural plays a part. Most of Glasgow has low rates but last time I looked , pollockshields or pollockshaws ( I always get mixed up). Had very high rates

I also think there's a problem with the 'Wee Nippy' 'Rule Britannia' neanderthals who think they're getting one up on the FM by ignoring the safety measures. Not sure what the answer is to that..

@WouldBeGood lockdown very clearly works. Why do you persist on posting this on every thread you can. Quite literally all the evidence says it works. If Glasgow is persistently high it's because a high proportion of people are ignoring the lockdown or social factors make the lockdown rules difficult/ impossible / unpalatable.

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To be fair several of these apply to me but I do think it's quite funny.

That's quite offensive

Why?

I read many of these comments on here daily? Is it offensive to have them together?

I do wonder if it’s related to using the subway. People too close in a confined area- same thing happening in London on the Tube (on a bigger scale).

Numbers are going down in Aberdeen, our public transport is not as good as Glasgow- so less people using it.
Aberdeen is a smaller city (the actual city- not the shire) - so can walk more if it/ more individual car use.

But I really hope the rest of us aren’t in lockdown till Glasgow gets it’s cases under control.

The subway doesn't carry nearly the same % of the population as the tube. It also doesn't run in the most badly affected areas.

@kurtrussellsbeard

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I thought that was the UfT bingo!

I do wonder if it’s related to using the subway. People too close in a confined area- same thing happening in London on the Tube (on a bigger scale)

Doubt it, the Glasgow subway is like a toy train track compared with other undergrounds.

Also don't believe it's down to blatant flagrant flouting of the rules either... Having lived in both Glasgow and Edinburgh (and down south), people are pretty much the same everywhere. It's all the other factors discussed like different working patterns, the large QEUH hospital, city centre universities...

The students in Glasgow are all concentrated in the West End and city centre. In Edinburgh, there's just Edinburgh Uni. Napier is way out along Gorgie Road, Heriott Watt is miles out, Queen Margaret is in Musselburgh.

Glashow has 12% BAME population to Edinburgh’s 8% which will be part of the reason for a difference.

@StarryEyeSurprise haha that works too! Must go and check in on their fb page.

The students in Glasgow are all concentrated in the West End and city centre. In Edinburgh, there's just Edinburgh Uni. Napier is way out along Gorgie Road, Heriott Watt is miles out, Queen Margaret is in Musselburgh.

Not really, you have Edinburgh Uni and all the colleges and places have multiple campuses but often student accommodation for those not in first year is more likely to be in the centre e.g. Gorgie& Dalry, Newington and Southside, Leith, New Town etc. I had friends at the sighthill campus of Napier but they rented with friends in Newington. Plus more students in Glasgow live at home.

There will be all sorts of issues at play but that should have been bottomed out as it may have revealed what strategy is required to get numbers in west areas as low as those in the east.

Agree. No self respecting student would live at Musselburgh or Riccarton😂
They're all at Gorgie/ Marchmont etc