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SQA Arrangements for 2020-2021

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WeAllHaveWings · 14/08/2020 21:27

www.sqa.org.uk/sqa/94837.html

Details per subject of proposed changes for next years NAT5, HIGHER and AH and survey to complete for feedback

For ds's subjects

English - no talking assessment and only one essay (ds is pleased!)

French - no writing assignment (ds disappointed as he thinks he would be OK at this)

Maths - mostly unchanged

Chemistry /physics - shorter exams

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Allourboys · 17/09/2020 15:28

Thanks for that. When/what is the Priestly Review?

celtiethree · 17/09/2020 17:14

Its an independent review of the handling of this years exam (non! )/results led by prof Mark Priestly. I think the review was supposed to take five weeks - we must be close to the end of that period now.

Though there was a question raised over the independence of the report as prof Priestly is an SNP supporter.

Allourboys · 17/09/2020 17:33

Thanks celtie let’s hope they publish soon otherwise they’ll be needing another enquiry into the handling of next year’s exams! Surely they can’t keep teachers and students in the dark much longer?!

Aurea · 20/09/2020 10:45

From the Times today:

"Scottish exams face being cancelled for a second year in a row, with ministers expected to drop National 5 tests as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.

However, under plans being considered by John Swinney, the education secretary, a scaled- back version of Highers would still go ahead.

The prospect of further disruption has angered campaigners, with one parents’ group saying it would amount to a “betrayal”.

Swinney is expected to make an announcement on the shape of the exam diet before the October break three weeks from now, reflecting the extent to which pupils fell behind during the lockdown and fears of further disruption.

It will be informed by the findings of a review into this year’s exam fiasco, conducted by Stirling University professor of education Mark Priestley and expected by the end of this month. The long-overdue Scottish Qualifications Authority (SQA) report on the future of exams is also imminent.

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One insider said: “Cancelling next year’s National 5s, many of which are continuously assessed, would be a least-worst option. However, retaining Higher exams, albeit based on a shorter school year with fewer areas of some subjects being covered, would be a better outcome for teachers and pupils under the circumstances.”

However Jo Bisset, of parent group UsForThem Scotland, said: “Parents will not accept this kind of surrender from the government and failure of leadership. Children lost out more than anyone during lockdown and their education and prospects were completely neglected.

“Schools need to stay open and all exams must go ahead as normal. Anything less would be a betrayal of a generation of Scottish children.”

Scottish Conservative education spokesman Jamie Greene said Swinney must clarify how National 5s will be assessed if exams are to be scrapped, and how scaled-back Highers and Advanced Highers would be fairly assessed and graded. He said: “All the stops must be pulled out to deliver a full exam diet next year where possible.

“If that is not happening, then the onus is on John Swinney to explain to parents, pupils and teachers why he can’t do that.”

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Scottish Labour’s Iain Gray said: “The legacy of the results debacle must be that any changes for next year are clearly communicated to pupils and teachers as quickly as possible. If there are to be alterations to the curriculum, additional coursework requirements or amended exam plans, then these must be confirmed as a matter of urgency.

“Above all, pupils and teachers must know exactly what evidence they need to gather for assessments if exams do not happen. We cannot have another fiasco like this year’s.”

Ministers are also coming under pressure from educationalists and trade unions to move away from traditional exams in the longer term, following claims that they disadvantage children from more deprived backgrounds and do not always reflect ability.

Larry Flanagan, general secretary of Scottish teachers’ union the EIS, warned that next year would not mark a return to normal. He said: “Working towards a normal diet of exams seems hopelessly optimistic, given even the current levels of disruption being

faced in schools, let alone the threat of a second wave of the virus, so changes will be required.”

Earlier this year there was an outcry when the SQA awarded grades based on a computer algorithm that saw 120,000 pupils marked down from what teachers estimated they would have achieved. The results were crudely based on the previous performance of children at the schools pupils attended, benefiting those attending schools in more affluent areas.

Following the backlash, the Scottish government intervened to reverse the awards, and reverted to grades being based on teacher assessments.

Swinney told Holyrood’s education committee last week that he faced a dilemma over whether next year’s exams should go ahead because of further coronavirus disruption.

The Scottish Greens called for next year’s exams to be scrapped to give teachers time to prepare for awarding qualifications, and there is pressure for assessments to replace traditional exams permanently.

Pauline Walker, rector of Edinburgh’s Royal High School and chair of the 20-strong Bosch group of head teachers, believes the current system is outdated. She said: “The current system is not inclusive and doesn’t show students at their best.”

But Lindsay Paterson, professor of education at Edinburgh University, cautioned against scrapping traditional exams, arguing that they help ensure children are assessed fairly and equally.

prettybird · 20/09/2020 11:12

To be fair, the initial concept of CfE was that those who were going to be sitting Highers didn't/shouldn't sit Nat 5s.

BUT in practice most schools rightly ignored this (and the few that didn't soon changed their minds) as they felt it was too much of a risk for young people's first experience of exams to be the crucial Higher exam diet. Shock

Not quite sure how that fits with this academic year, when the Higher candidates wouldn't have had the experience of Nat 5s anyway Confused - but it means that next year's Higher candidates would have the same issue of a lack of real exam experience. Shock

Mistressiggi · 20/09/2020 11:36

What do I do if the report when finally published says they are leaving out the section of my higher that I've been teaching since May? Confused

WeAllHaveWings · 20/09/2020 11:53

@Mistressiggi

What do I do if the report when finally published says they are leaving out the section of my higher that I've been teaching since May? Confused
Obviously tell your students to bin all the work you've done with them so far, bin your broken crystal ball, and then magically motivate them (and yourself) to get it done in the few weeks left before prelims. Easy. 🤦‍♀️

ds is doing his Highers this year and it is getting more and more worrying as time passes.

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Mistressiggi · 20/09/2020 12:10

I wonder if they could be sufficiently vague to avoid that - so if your course has three units, you only answer two in the exam, but they include questions for all three? (Or is that too sensible for the SQA)

waitforitwaitforit · 20/09/2020 12:15

*However Jo Bisset, of parent group UsForThem Scotland, said: “Parents will not accept this kind of surrender from the government and failure of leadership. Children lost out more than anyone during lockdown and their education and prospects were completely neglected.

“Schools need to stay open and all exams must go ahead as normal. Anything less would be a betrayal of a generation of Scottish children.”*

Do these fruit loops not recognise that things aren't bloody normal? Rates of absence are really high, and will remain so, so we can't expect things to run as before.

cocopops · 20/09/2020 17:33

@waitforitwaitforit

*However Jo Bisset, of parent group UsForThem Scotland, said: “Parents will not accept this kind of surrender from the government and failure of leadership. Children lost out more than anyone during lockdown and their education and prospects were completely neglected.

“Schools need to stay open and all exams must go ahead as normal. Anything less would be a betrayal of a generation of Scottish children.”*

Do these fruit loops not recognise that things aren't bloody normal? Rates of absence are really high, and will remain so, so we can't expect things to run as before.

So what do you suggest? Another shit storm like we had to put up with this year? What exactly are senior students competing with their English counterparts with A level qualifications meant to do when it comes to uni entry? They are already at a disadvantage with fewer places available next year due to this year’s debacle.🤷🏼‍♀️

Jo Bissett is spot on. Parents won’t and shouldn’t stand for it. There’s no reason why exams can’t go ahead- our children are merely limited by the incompetence and lack of foresight of the SG.

Whitestick · 20/09/2020 18:03

On what basis does she speak for Scottish parents? Schools may well stay open, but if both of the - for example - Art teachers are off sick with Covid, how fair is that for the higher Art students? Or the maths ones, where there's still three qualified maths teachers at work but they are faced with 6 Higher Maths classes and two Advanced higher, when their other two colleagues are either sick or isolating repeatedly? How fair is it on your dc in S5 who has had to miss 7 weeks of school due to two periods of isolation, and three colds?
I would be interested to know how Jo Bisset would solve these inequalities, other than propping up the bodies of sick teachers in their classrooms somehow, and insisting students remain in school with symptoms?

cocopops · 20/09/2020 18:07

It’s called moderation. They do it every year.

I repeat- what’s the alternative?

Whitestick · 20/09/2020 18:09

What do you mean? How does moderation help?

sonicbook · 20/09/2020 18:22

@cocopops

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

sonicbook · 20/09/2020 18:38

The alternative is that you recognise that many schools are hanging by a thread in terms of both pupil and staff attendance and the rise in cases has barely started.

thereplycamefromanchorage · 20/09/2020 19:02

@Whitestick

On what basis does she speak for Scottish parents? Schools may well stay open, but if both of the - for example - Art teachers are off sick with Covid, how fair is that for the higher Art students? Or the maths ones, where there's still three qualified maths teachers at work but they are faced with 6 Higher Maths classes and two Advanced higher, when their other two colleagues are either sick or isolating repeatedly? How fair is it on your dc in S5 who has had to miss 7 weeks of school due to two periods of isolation, and three colds? I would be interested to know how Jo Bisset would solve these inequalities, other than propping up the bodies of sick teachers in their classrooms somehow, and insisting students remain in school with symptoms?
This, 100%. I want to know how the SG are going to address these inevitable inequalities for this year's S4, S5 & S6.
Arkadia · 20/09/2020 19:50

I don't understand this "inequality" thing.
Since not everybody can have something, than no-one shall. Just like distance learning last winter.
As if inequalities won't come to the fore just like they normally do anyway.
The situation we live in is unusual? OK, let's do something to, at the very least, mitigate it, but given that, in the end, nobody REALLY cares about education (and I blame both the SG and the public as education doesn't shift votes), then accomplishing nothing is an acceptable option.

cocopops · 21/09/2020 13:45

@sonicbook

The alternative is that you recognise that many schools are hanging by a thread in terms of both pupil and staff attendance and the rise in cases has barely started.
That’s not an alternative OPTION though, is it?

@Arkadia- your posts on all threads talk so much sense 👍

Whitestick · 21/09/2020 14:15

Some children have tutors, and good laptops and a quiet place to study. Others do not. This kind of inequality has always been there, but groups of young people being kept off education and therefore missing large chunks of classwork, or groups of young people not having a teacher at all for chunks of the year - these are not normal things and hard to see how to ignore this when it comes to end of year assessment.
The last thing we want are students feeling they must attend school when feeling ill or supposed to be self-isolating, as they are so scared of missing out on exam passes.

MumofHunter · 21/09/2020 16:40

ONE school where I live has 16 staff members off with confirmed covid. School's still open.

We're also starting to create a lovely memorial garden for one of the boys in our school whose dad was a doctor and died from Covid.

Really just saddened at the complete disregard for teachers.

MumofHunter · 21/09/2020 16:42

Arkadia you say that education doesn't shift votes. Of course it does. Every engaged parent wants a good education for their child.

Arkadia · 21/09/2020 16:59

@MumofHunter, if it did the SNP would have been voted out ages ago and the opposition parties would have cashed in on the endless pre-covid education fiascos generously gifted.
Similarly, the Tories would have been voted out. Instead they are happily installed.
In Scotland there is it one agenda. Education, despite all the protestations, is not even on the back burner.
Hence, doing less than nothing IS an option.

MumofHunter · 21/09/2020 17:12

You believe what you want to believe.

Whitestick · 21/09/2020 17:54

I'm sorry to hear that mumofhunter, poor wee kid.

Scotslassie1 · 21/09/2020 19:39

So sad Mumof. Stories like that are what makes me so angry with the 'nothing to see here' 'moan moan moan', 'only 70 deaths this week so what' brigade. Each represents a family that's highly likely devastated and won't ever by the same again as a mum/ dad or whoever who was healthy two weeks ago is now dead.
Appreciate this is off topic so apologies op.

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