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This is deeply scary stuff

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thethethethethe · 14/06/2019 22:44

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WaxOnFeckOff · 15/06/2019 23:18

it is indeed - better not speak against the authorities though...

DonkeyHohtay · 17/06/2019 23:11

What's it about? I'm not clicking on any video content without an inkling of what it's about first.

thethethethethe · 17/06/2019 23:21

Teacher criticising pupil in Scottish school for refusing to accept what told about transgender by the authorities.

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haggistramp · 30/06/2019 19:24

Yh that video is mind boggling. Ds is only p3 and I'm a bit worried about lgbt education. Well not lgb, no problems there, just the t bit. I'm not wanting him confused and lied to that you can change sex or you might have been born in the wrong body if you like pink sparkles and make up. It's all blown up in Holyrood at the moment.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 02/07/2019 09:56

My dc is only primary age but this kind of nonsense really worries me. I really hope the student did submit a complaint because this is absurd. How can a student be kicked out of class for merely stating what is objective reality (even if it's not PC to admit it these days). Well done to the student for staying calm and reasonable with a teacher who wouldn't even have a discussion.

StrongerSingle · 19/07/2019 11:34

I'll tell yòu what is scary ... go and view that video in YouTube app and look at the sick, hate-filled comments from the intolerant rent a mob.

In my opinion, the word "gender" is wrong in this context. If the boy had said there are two sexes, I may agree (although a small percentage of people are born with both male and female genitalia and therefore will not fit neatly into a pigeon hole). And I also think the teacher handled this badly.

Gender is not about biology. It means different things to different people. It is more to do with gender roles.

And for those scared that their children will suddenly want to be the opposite sex after one or two lessons ... that isnt the aim. The Scottish government said "State schools will be required to teach pupils about the history of LGBTI equalities and movements, as well as tackling homophobia and transphobia and exploring LGBTI identity"

It's about tolerance.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 19/07/2019 12:00

I agree that he should technically have used 'biological sex' rather than 'gender', but given how often the two are conflated these days, even on official forms and in scientific literature, I can forgive him for that. From the context, I think it is clear that sex is what was meant (and the teacher missed a prime opportunity to discuss the difference between the two, the fact that sex cannot be changed in a scientific sense, and the fact that gender is a social construct).

What worries me, in part, is the reinforcement of stereotypes through this idea that people can be the wrong 'gender' (as well as the utter intolerance towards anyone who questions this 'truth'). If it's not about stereotypes, then how can a 'boy' really be a 'girl', or a 'girl' really be a 'boy' given that they can't change their underlying biology? I would have no problem with children experimenting with gender while they are figuring themselves out (as we all do as children/adolescents), if it wasn't for the frankly alarming trend of funnelling children who don't feel they fit into their assigned gender stereotypes towards life-altering 'treatments' that I think are extremely damaging, when it could well be a phase. There was a channel 4 documentary about this not too long ago, where some transchildren who later went on to regret it were interviewed.

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