Scottish pronounciation help

[Keepit]

I’m Scottish myself so should know this for sure! Dc have a song to learn for burns night.

Two words causing confusion are butter ba (I think is pronounced baw) and too sma which I read as (smaw) dc think I’m wrong can anyone confirm?

I'd agree with you, so sma would rhyme with braw? That sounds right to me (disclaimer that I'm not much of a Burns expert though so it could be an exception).

You’re right.

You are right

Thank you! Ds was telling me I’m wrong but pronouncing it the other way made no sense!

I agree with you (and that's even with my posh Scottish accent )

prettybird is there such a thing 😂

I agree. I live near the sma' glen. It's smaw

Keepit - dh (Glaswegian born and bred) refuses to accept that I am also Glaswegian as I was brought up in Bearsden/Milngavie

My accent is probably more akin to a Morningside one due to a weird confluence of influences.

Butter ba would be butter ball and sma would be small I suppose so baw and smaw are definitely the right pronunciation. That's what I hate about these poems they give out as clearly we don't all have the same accent or use the same words locally or even necessarily come from the same part of the country (even if we are all Scottish) in the same house. Yet we are supposed to automatically know how the poet intended their words to be pronounced (not blaming the poet, just the lack of guidance).

prettybird do you remember the old SPT advert,.. 'kelvinside' 'no morningside' 'kelvinside!!'

@gogogadgetgin - I do!! Morningside!!!!

Accents are funny things. I no longer have my local accent and neither dos DH (we are from different areas) we have raised DC in a different area again and DC don't have the local accent either. They have a very generically "scottish accent" that is neither posh or common. Very homogenised, that manages to make me both sad and happy at the same time...

Your DH is correct, Prettybird. Bearsden and Milngavie are definitely not in Glasgow, so you are not Glaswegian. We might allow you to be an honorary one though.

It’s “pronunciation” though.

I'm sure this has been posted already, 'The Glasgow Uni Accent' "do you want to come ahead" oddest fight challenge... www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-uni-accent-glaswegians-hate-14615840.

keepit is it a Sandy Thomas Ross song? I remember doing that at school, had a bit of mixed accent having lived all over Scotland- never sounded quite right from me, without sounding like was trying to be on River City! Fyi coolwalking KELVINSIDE! Think we win at the moment as we have a dinosaur!!!

With Bearden it's a funny one. They are classed as greater Glasgow. They are a birth on their own but a lot of things come under Glasgow e.g. utilities, organisations such as the scouts, churches etc. So you are kind of not wrong either way! 😁

In my part of Scotland butter ba would be "baa" like a sheep lol. And sma would be the same with the emphasis on the a like bra. We find the further south you go the more a W is added on the end but up north and especially in the north east we don't.

Agree with aw..
"A man's a man for a' that.."

I go with council boundaries and Bearsden/Milngavie are definitely East Dunbartonshire so they don't count IMO. I live in one of the two areas mentioned, but I'm originally from Glasgow and there's a difference.

It's not my fault that people in Bearsden and Milngavie are snobs don't won't to pay the Council tax for Glasgow but want to work within the official city boundaries and make use of its facilities especially the museums and culture It never made sense to me, even as a youngster.

Postal address is Glasgow

Don't worry, we'll adopt you and grant you Glaswegian citizenship. You seem like a good sort in spite of your beginnings and can consider yourself an honorary Glaswegian until the official ceremony where you'll be dooked three times in the Clyde.

Look, I'm already an adopted Scot as I was born in South Africa!

Next debate is a North Sider or South Sider! (Dh is a South Sider, but doesn't like to be reminded he was born on the North Side ).

At least my mum was born on the North side glossing over the fact that her Australian parents were only here because of the war

I've lived longer on the South side than I've lived anywhere else - over 25 years

The debate is usually West end over Southside.. One born on either side rarely chooses to move to the other!

My aunt used to live where she referred to as "Upper Bearsden". A.k.a. Drumchapel