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Arkadia · 04/06/2017 21:32

... in an old style dryer
or
in the CfE?

In another thread someone has pointed out what is expected at Yr1-2-3 in maths in England (see links)

www.ncetm.org.uk/public/files/23305594/Mastery_Assessment_Y1_Low_Res.pdf

www.ncetm.org.uk/public/files/25627338/Mastery_Assessment_Yr2_Low_Res.pdf

www.ncetm.org.uk/public/files/23305581/Mastery_Assessment_Y3_Low_Res.pdf

Well, at MY school people a year, if not TWO years ahead of a given year would find all that difficult.
They are not asking for the moon, but to answer those questions you need a degree of thinking that AT MY SCHOOL children simply do NOT have. I have only looked at the first two, but I can imagine that going on things will only get worse.

So... how far BEHIND are children in Scotland compared to their English counterparts?

And please, spare me how in Scotland we concentrate on "resilience". If I hear the R-word once more I am going to VOMIT!

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cdtaylornats · 04/06/2017 22:40

One of the questions in the Y1 document is ambiguous - when it asks you to point out the third in line it doesn't tell you which end to start from.

Arkadia · 04/06/2017 23:20

I don't think it matters... ;)

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Bardolino · 04/06/2017 23:35

I'm tempted to print them and give them to my kids tomorrow, but I reckon my P4 son would rattle through them all. My P2 daughter would probably handle most of the Year 2 stuff and possibly some of the Year 3 stuff.

Arkadia · 04/06/2017 23:43

Bardolino, in that case you are much luckier than me. I bet that if I asked the P3s in my DD1's class to do the one for Y1 (so a year behind) they would struggle BIG TIME.

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MacarenaFerreiro · 05/06/2017 08:21

My P4 child would be able to do the "mastery" questions on the Y3 sheet. What he would struggle with is the language like

"Solve calculations using a place value grid and equipment alongside a column method to demonstrate understanding."

I'm not clear whether those links are for teachers or are examples of the papers given to children but the language in some is very adult in nature. My child has spent most of this year doing adding three digit numbers and place value - but doesn't refer to a "place value grid" so that would throw him I think.

Arkadia · 05/06/2017 09:31

macarena, don't give anything for granted... print it out and have your DC try it. Indeed, some of the expressions used may be unfamiliar to him, but as a whole he should be able to decipher it.
As an aside, adding n digit numbers is easy (my P1 DD2 can do it). What to do with them is a different kettle of fish altogether, and so is the ability to decode and solve word problems which is probably the most difficult part.

In any case, my understanding (but I have not read all the blurb) is that the docs are for teachers, but the questions are "real life" ones and, I am told, the SATS are based on them.

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cazzyg · 06/06/2017 18:16

I've only looked st the Y3 sheet and my P4 DD has certainly covered enough in school to answer the questions.

I agree that the language used is quite complex, but as far as the concepts go, she'd be fine. I'm basing that on the evidence I've seen in her schoolwork at parents evening and the snapshot jotter the are sent home with every so often.

Arkadia · 06/06/2017 18:36

Cazzyg, do try it, then we'll talk ;) (then it could be only my school...)

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