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As a sahp what do you do if someone asks for your details for gift aid?

58 replies

Purplturpl · 10/02/2025 23:12

I assume I can’t give gift aid, if I am not working/paying tax? But I don’t want to explain to people there and then my financial situation. But I sense people don’t like it if I decline. They get a bit grumpy with me. I suppose I could give my details anyway? But I do kind of begrudge having to that

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Floralnomad · 11/02/2025 00:59

I always just say ‘I’m not a tax payer’ , I’m not bothered what they think or assume .

FloofyKat · 11/02/2025 01:04

Just say ..

No thsnks, I don’t qualify

LittleOwl153 · 11/02/2025 01:12

I always use my OHs details if possible - he's a higher rate tax payerbsonit is beneficial to him too!

SeaToSki · 11/02/2025 01:23

You could always say you are visiting from France or some other country…

Anotherduvet · 11/02/2025 01:32

"I'm not a tax payer" or "I don't qualify" are helpful.

pincklop · 11/02/2025 01:40

TwentyKittens · 11/02/2025 00:47

I just say no thank you to whatever the Gift Aid question is, and don't elaborate further.

I've never found the need to justify myself to anyone about why.

They can judge me all they like.

Good on you! If someone makes you feel judged giving a donation then I'm not donating anything anymore.

Needmorelego · 11/02/2025 01:46

SeaToSki · 11/02/2025 01:23

You could always say you are visiting from France or some other country…

Why?
Why on earth should someone bother to make up fake nonsense when all you have to do is literally say 5 words - "I'm not a tax payer".

Ownyourchoices · 11/02/2025 01:49

Who is actually asking? If its just one of those people in a shopping centre then I just say no and walk on. I get sent random ones on social media but they are always sent to heaps of people. I can't imagine asking a person one on one for this?

Needmorelego · 11/02/2025 01:54

@Ownyourchoices it's usually asked if you are donating items in a charity shop or (like the OP it seems) visiting somewhere like a museum with a charity status that you pay admission too.
I'm not sure how it actually works but it basically means the charities can raise more money.
But if you aren't a tax payer you can't sign up.

hellywelly3 · 11/02/2025 02:06

I say “I’m not a U.K. tax payer” and hope to give the impression I live in some lovely hot foreign land.

Ownyourchoices · 11/02/2025 02:24

Needmorelego · 11/02/2025 01:54

@Ownyourchoices it's usually asked if you are donating items in a charity shop or (like the OP it seems) visiting somewhere like a museum with a charity status that you pay admission too.
I'm not sure how it actually works but it basically means the charities can raise more money.
But if you aren't a tax payer you can't sign up.

Thanks - different to Australia then!

Purplturpl · 11/02/2025 06:20

Yes I get asked a lot on days out- usually zoos, museums, stately homes. I think I did once try “I don’t pay uk tax” and ended up with them asking where I am visiting from 🤦‍♀️

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Purplturpl · 11/02/2025 06:24

POTC · 11/02/2025 00:57

Charity shop manager here
No, we don't hear that when you say you aren't paying tax.
When you said "I'm sorry I can't do that at the moment" they probably heard that you couldn't be bothered with the form, nothing about those words says you aren't able to gift aid.
You can't just give your details if you don't pay tax, you're literally signing to say you pay tax equivalent to your donations so if you don't pay tax that's fraud.
You can't sign up your partner, they have to do it. You can then take donations in that are from your joint home and gift aid using their number once they're signed up though.
Most people we encounter are very pleased to sign up, but we definitely don't pressure anyone into it and it is absolutely entirely optional, but many people have never heard of it so if we don't ask them they don't know it's an option!

Gosh - it’s fraud if I actually just sign up anyway? That’s a bit scary- I expect there is a fair few people who do that cos it’s not explained properly to them.

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Rocknrollstar · 11/02/2025 06:45

The amount you can gift aid is limited so I usually say ‘sorry. All my gift aid goes to my DDs charity when I sponsor her’. People really don’t care at all.

SchoolDilemma17 · 11/02/2025 06:49

Teenagerantruns · 11/02/2025 00:17

I have always wondered how or if the tax office ever check these things, l pay tax so normally tick the box, but surely they can't check who does or who dosent ?

I worked for a charity and they do check. You send off a Gift Aid form once a year and you get told which ones get declined. I onced had a 20k donation from a millionaire declined as he didn’t pay enough tax in the UK (non dom I think).

RatedDoingMagic · 11/02/2025 06:59

"I'm not eligible" would work.

Also if you do make a GA declaration they legally have to tell you that for your declaration to be valid it is your responsibility to ensure that the amount of tax you pay is greater than the amount that will be reclaimed so you could also say "I have already giftaided the maximum I am allowed to" (the maximum you are allowed to if your income is below £12k-ish is zero). Some people with a low income but very high savings they can live off do give away 100% of their income over the threshold and gift aid it.

Autumn1990 · 11/02/2025 07:03

80smonster · 10/02/2025 23:53

I’m self employed and I just say ‘I can’t gift aid because it complicates my tax return’ which is true.

This is what I say.

Trainr · 11/02/2025 07:12

Either just say no and leave at that, or just tell them you are a stay at home parent and don’t qualify. It sounds like you’re unhappy with your decision to be a SAHP, but there is no need, so many people are. Instead of being embarrassed, just own it, there is nothing embarrassing about it all. If you’re worried about people judging, those sort of people with judge anyone for anything (half will judge you if you weren’t a SAHP!). They’re not worth bothering with.

80smonster · 11/02/2025 07:12

Autumn1990 · 11/02/2025 07:03

This is what I say.

Yeah, I’m also not embarrassed to say it, I’m not paying an accountant to dick around with gift aid receipts, especially as that appears to be a penalty you pay for erm, donating to charity 😂

Sinkintotheswamp · 11/02/2025 07:21

Teenagerantruns · 11/02/2025 00:17

I have always wondered how or if the tax office ever check these things, l pay tax so normally tick the box, but surely they can't check who does or who dosent ?

HMRC do spot check and audit gift aid claims. For example, if 5% of the audited claims was incorrect then the charity would have to pay back 5% of all their gift aid.

whathaveiforgotten · 11/02/2025 07:23

"I'm not eligible I'm afraid" would be a good line I think.

SocksShmocks · 11/02/2025 07:24

Purplturpl · 10/02/2025 23:47

You are right. Just annoys me I feel like I am being interrogated and judged at the till, when I just want to take my kids to a local museum ! I am overthinking this I know, it’s not that big a deal. Like pp said though. Gift aid really should be entirely optional, it should be ok to say no, I might prefer my money went to government in taxes.

OP - I hope this comes across with kindness as intended but I think you might be assuming other people (in this case total strangers) think about you much more than they do. I am prone to it myself. But I try to remember that I’m only the centre of my own world, not everyone else’s.

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/02/2025 07:37

User478 · 10/02/2025 23:25

If you're making your donation from the family you could give DH's details (assuming he exists/pays enough tax/consents)
But you really don't have to, by ticking the gift aid box you're saying "this charity matters more to me than local services paid for by taxes eg schools, fire service, roads, MP expenses..."

I don't sign up to gift aid because of this. I make a donation to the charity but I want my tax spent on hospitals, schools road etc.

I just say 'No thanks'.

LittleBearPad · 11/02/2025 07:40

80smonster · 11/02/2025 07:12

Yeah, I’m also not embarrassed to say it, I’m not paying an accountant to dick around with gift aid receipts, especially as that appears to be a penalty you pay for erm, donating to charity 😂

Edited

You don’t need an accountant to add gift aided charitable donations to your self assessment!

Meceme · 11/02/2025 07:54

I work for a charity and have to ask for this when I process admissions. Nobody cares if you say no, its not a judgement. I work part time and don't earn enough to pay tax so I can't gift aid either.
I just say "I'm don't pay tax" if asked.