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Can't deal with her and I don't know how to handle it!

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MadameG · 28/06/2010 12:55

Hello all, I could have written about all this nightmare a thousand times over but for my own mental health I try to stay 'up' and level (I'm fairly recently recovered from serious psychiatric illness, but I'm ok now- but still Bipolar!) but recent events have really got to me and I could do with sharing.

My family history is such a mess that I could go on forever, but suffice to say that my dad never really wanted to know me (was absent for 95% of my life, wasn't very nice and we don't talk anymore) so he's now out the picture, my ex-stepdad was violent and mentally abusive (which resulted in me being very mentally unwell) so he's out the picture too and my mum.... well, where to start.

She stood by and watched all the abuse at the hands of my stepdad, and likewise she has always been so gaga over whatever man she's with that she's put them (horrendously) before me and my sis. This includes not taking in my sister when she was anorexic to the point of constantly collapsing (mum has a spare room but 'the computer was in it already'), not coming to visit me after a very serious self harm/ suicide attempt that I could have died from (because she wanted to 'paint the hallway') etc etc. I could go on endlessly but you get the idea.

In a nutshell, she won't be there for us because her no1 all-conquering priority has always been whatever boyfriend is on the scene.

Since I've been pregnant I have distanced myself from her a bit; I think the love I feel already for our little one has magnified the huge disappointment I feel about my own upbringing, and as a result I feel like I don't want to and don't know how to be around her. Sometimes she can be very sweet, but if you ever need anything that takes more than a phonecall then she doesn't want to know.

So- here's what heightened my anger again this weekend. Mum got married and is on her honeymoon break at the mo. While away she has asked my 75 year old grandfather to feed all her pets, water all her garden every day and also do the same for her allotment (which involves digging up god knows how many fruits and veg in the boiling weather). I was aleady cross about this (should be used to it as she's a serial user of people, but hey ho) but then my sister told me something that made me even more furious.

Mum's new husband is growing weed plants in their house. My sister asked what they were the other day and both mum and her hubby burst out laughing like children, saying they're marijuana and that my grandad will be unknowingly watering them for them while they're away.

I feel so cross about this because my grandad is very strongly against drugs, and he'd be mortified if he knew what they were. He'd probably never speak to them again.

Not only that, but WTF is my 53 year old mother and her husband doing growing drugs like 18 year olds?!! I know that he smokes weed sometimes but this is something else.

I don't want our baby (when he arrives) staying at grandma's house when there are bloody dope plants in the kitchen and my stepdad smoking weed as well. I'm no prude but I don't want our baby exposed to it.

Plus, I can't believe how pathetic they both are and that once again, she's being both stupid and selfish by making my grandad water them.

Our relationship is so complicated. On the one hand she's very bubbly and positive and has been very good at times, and at other times she drives me nuts and hurts my feelings by being how she is. She has changed her entire personality for this man- she swears all the time, rides a motorbike (and is now growing weed!), and yet normally she's a well-dressed, well-spoken, reserved person. It frustrates me and I just don't know how to deal with it.

Her hubby is nice, but he's just like a big kid, and often he makes me and my sister very uncomfortable with jokes about 'wanking' and stuff (he even started doing a thrusting sex motion in my living room on Boxing Day for no appartent reason).

I don't know where I'm going with all this really, I just needed to share it and get my frustration out somehow. My lovely hubby tries to boy me up by pointing out that my mum has her faults but its not all bad, but still, I can't shake how I feel. My cousin and aunts have commented that they don't know how I still talk to her, but my family is so fractured already that I'm afraid of having nothing left.

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MadameG · 28/06/2010 14:59

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Hope someone can help me with all this. Kind of tearing my hair out this afternoon.

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Carbonated · 28/06/2010 15:04

There is having nothing left of your family, and then there is having a using, manipulative, nasty woman and her inappropriate partner in your life. I know which one I would prefer. As to your baby staying at their house....your mother has already caused you so much harm. You need to protect your child from that same harm. She is not going to get any better as a person or as a family member.

MadameG · 28/06/2010 15:33

No, I know she won't improve, I just find myself stuck in this limbo because I have misplaced loyalty towards her, but also can't be around her much anymore.

I don't really know how to continue keeping her at arm's length without a) wanting to blow my top at some point and b) having her ask me what's wrong.

I have never told her exactly how much of a crap parent she's been, and if I did she'd be devastated and turn it all back on me (and would probably not talk to me again). In the past I have tried to ask her about why she has never stood up for me/ supported me etc, and she just cries and says she regrets certain things, or gets angry with me and says she doesn't want to talk about it all anymore.

She never changes and she has no idea how selfish she is or how it affects others.

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starsareshining · 28/06/2010 15:39

I'm very sorry that you have to deal with this and also deal with the worry that if you do cut her out, you'll have nothing left. However, what you do have at the moment isn't helping you in any way. This relationship is not bringing you any happiness and is not improving your life. She isn't willing to help you out, even in extreme situations, so won't be reliable or helpful once your baby is born.

My ex-partner's mom sounds a lot like this and I have banned her from seeing my son unless it's supervised. I don't trust her and, having seen the way she treats her own children, don't expect any better for my own son. She too has recently got a new boyfriend and changed her whole personality. Seems to think that being 'hard' and hanging around in rough pubs with lonely alcolohlics and people who fight for fun is ok. She actually told me that one of these losers from the pub asked if my baby was dead yet (he was in the neo-natal unit for a while after birth), yet still sees this person and refused to do anything about it. Appearing 'cool' is more important to her than anything else. I could give so many examples of things she's done to her sons but I won't because it's not necessary.

All I could suggest is avoiding her as much as possible til things cool off with the current boyfriend and then seeing how things are afterwards. I'm not sure that you wanted to read this but I just don't see how things could be improved. Other people will probably have much better advice than me though

MadameG · 28/06/2010 16:19

Hi, well she's just married her current partner so I don't think it'll ever cool off. She's completely loved up with him like a 16 year old.

I don't see how things can be improved either. I guess its more about the way forward from here- how do I untie myself from all this. I just got really upset about it all and phoned my grandma in tears (the one who is married to the weed-watering grandad, not that I mentioned that) and she said that if I ever decided to not have anything more to do with my mum that nothing will change between me and my grandparents/ aunts etc. She said that unfortunately she thinks my mum doesn't want to know or think about how much hurt she's caused, it's all about her and her only. So yes, if I ever told her how I felt she'd turn it back on me. That is the absolute last thing I need after all the shit I've been through.

Your ex-partner's mum sounds very similar to my mum- its awful that the comment was made about your baby. Appalling.

My mum is due back from her honeymoon today so I am anticipating her 'oooh I had a wonderful time' phonecall with absolute dread. I don't want to answer the phone. Even more so now that when I asked my grandma how they've got on with doing her allotment, garden etc while she's been away, my grandma said it's been terrible, that her knees are hurting from kneeling on the ground digging up vegetables and that she's too old for it all.

Disgusting.

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posieparker · 28/06/2010 16:27

First of all, the weed thing is nothing you should worry about...it's the least of your worries. I would also delete any ideas of allowing your child to stay at her house and think of some ground rules now about access and interference of your Mum. She's never going to change and so you have to put her in a manageable box. She'll be there for the grandma image but you may find, and need to p[repare, for her to be selfish, complacent and even jealous of you becoming a mother. I hope not, but I fear this for you.

I may talk to other vulnerable family members about being used and I would probably have a word with your mother about her parents.

MadameG · 28/06/2010 16:43

I agree, there is no way that baby is staying there. Her new husband isn't keen on anyone staying over anyway, even if she is (very funny about when me and my sister have stayed the night in the past) plus there is all the other unpleasantness/ weed smoking/ swearing etc. They're not responsible enough to have my son stay.

She will definitely be selfish- she'll love to be all smiley and keen/ grandma-like when it suits her, but if the shit went down or something bad happened, she'd be nowhere in sight. I want to cushion my son from all that as best I can, so I guess we just don't see her very much.

I just hope me and my hubby be enough for my son as there aren't many others around. I really fear about something happening to my husband because I'm not the strongest person in the world and I don't really have anyone else to help me stay calm about it all.

Re having a word with her about the grandparents- I would love to do so but my grandma might be upset that I've said something (she likes to keep the peace) and also my mum will throw a tears tantrum and make me feel like the bad guy (which, despite me knowing it's bollocks, its the last thing I need).

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