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P cheating, please could somebody help, I don't know what to do (long, sorry!)

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dismantlethesun · 28/06/2010 07:27

Argh

Background- I was OW briefly. DP told me he and wifey had been separated for 7 years, they had not

We moved in together after 6 months, it became a fiery relationship because he hacked into my emails and read that I had said he was controlling

He banned all friends. He banned relatives. He banned staying 5 mins late at work. Banned certain clothes and shoes. Stopped me progressing in my career.

Began to falsely accuse me of things. Always false. Began to be very violent.

Reverted to old drinking habits. Drinks A LOT.

I got pregnant (one year in) and he got even more violent.

I suspected him of an affair because I found a message on his phone but he denied it then beat me up badly.

I really loved him. He was so good at controlling me, being ver 30 years my senior.

Had DD, he was awful. I told him I was leaving and he said if I left he would lie to social services and say I was a bad mother. I said, but I'm not I'm a great mother, he said 'I have police connections/etc etc they won't believe you'

So I stayed. During that year he nearly killed me with a wine bottle and with other acts of violence. He grabbed DD once when she was crying but I jumped in and fought him off her. He punched me hard in the head and strangled me while I was holding her. When DD was almost 1 she became acutely unwell and was admitted to hospital. She was there for 3 months and then she died.

He was never in the hospital, he was in the pub on his laptop, or somewhere else. He would tell me he was fcking a barmaid, then say he only said it to wind me up, he told me he was fcking a colleague, then said he only said it to wind me up. He would not let me stay in the hospital with DD overnight, because he said if I did he would leave and not pay rent so I'd be homeless (I was on extended maternity leave) and I got scared and thought DD wouldn't be able to be discharged if he did that as we'd have no home to go to. So I stayed.

She died, he turned up briefly to shed a false tear. I got pregnant immediately- I reget this now, but it was a one-off and I was extremely upset.

I went back to work, he became violent again, kicking me in the stomach hard. I bit him (one time) in self defence to get his arms off me as he was holding me down to kick me. The police were called and they let him go because he has 'connections' and he reported my act of defence. The only time I've ever fought back.

Baby was born. Blabla. He's now been made redundant. WE have no s*x life at all because he is so much older and is diabetic so it's pretty useless. But he has always said 'it works fine when I want it to' My grandma died, my best friend died the other week, and DP has destroyed all my other friendships except for a few in Canada.

I have just found a memory stick with his emails on it from work. I looked at it because he indicated he was emailing his wifelet (he wasn't) and he had hidden the stick. I read lots of it, including his sent emails which mentioned a new secret account. I logged in (same password for everything) and he has been having an affair since before DD was born.

WHat do I do?? I am scared. I am in rented accomodation that is more than my full time salary. DC2 is 5mths old. I have no income other than statutory maternity pay. I have no family now really and all my friends gave up 4 years ago. I am 24. I have ruined my career by having babies and being so unprofessional. Hell, I don't even know if I want to be in my career. I want to go back to uni. Or leave the country. Or right now I jjust want to curl up and die, quite frankly.

I honestly do not know how to handle this- he is still married to the ex as well, so I'm not entitled to anything if we split. I have a low income even when working full time. No childcare.

Thanks anyone, he's going to wake up in a minute and I'm going to have to pretend I don't know I really believed him when he said I was his soul mate etc. He said he loved me. I hoped he would change. I am mortified that I have been so stupid and didn't leave when DD was small.

OP posts:
tots2ten · 28/06/2010 22:41

just read the whole thread. Hope your next post is to say your out and staying out.

Take care of yourself and your ds

Dollytwat · 28/06/2010 22:58

Dismantle I have lots of baby things you can have if you need them, you won't want for anything OK. I know that when you have a shock and panic you start to focus on stuff that seems trivial to other people, I think it's natural. Try to think about what you'd save if there was a fire.

Get the stuff that you can't replace, maybe photos or memory sticks. Anything else is just stuff.

When you get to the hotel please update us and let us know you are safe.

Please try to stay away from him, don't answer the texts for at least a week. You'll be surprised how you'll feel after such a short time away from someone who thinks they have the right to treat you that way. You have got used to it, it's not the norm. You'll love being free and being YOU away from someone who treats you like shit.

Give yourself some time, talk to other people, DON'T go back to the flat without a police escort. They will be happy to do it.

You have lots of people really worried about you and your baby with GOOD reason. Don't take any chances please

Mouseface · 28/06/2010 23:02

I'm going to bed.

I hope that the next time I read this thread, you are both safe OP.

Please be safe.

xx

Stray · 28/06/2010 23:08

Is it just me or is anyone else resisting going to bed till they know OP is safe?

messeduplife · 28/06/2010 23:09

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QwertyQueen · 28/06/2010 23:11

I am very unsettled by this too, I just want to know they are safe.
I think a hotel across the road might be too close, the temptation to "pop in" in the morning for more stuff might be too great?

Chathappy · 28/06/2010 23:41

I'm worried about this too and about to go to bed - have been reading this thread today.

Please don't go back in the morning OP - I hoping the next message I read from you is from the hotel/somewhere safe.

CantThinkofFunnyName · 28/06/2010 23:42

For those spouting "troll" and other unsupportive comments, please stop now. OP is in a terrible state and full of confusion. The things she is worried about may seem irrelevant to those who have not been in her situation, but it is, unfortunately, a natural way of moving forward. I doubt we will hear anything for a while now as she will of course have other things to worry about and deal with at the hotel and spending money on internet connection probably isn't going to be top of the list of priorities. I have texted to ask if she is safe and reiterate the comments about not going back in the morning without police and not believing he will have gone.

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LittleMissHissyFit · 28/06/2010 23:52

i've just read this and want you to know that i'm here for you too, please get to a safe place, when you're out, let us know what you need. Whatever it is. You know we'll give you the shirt off our backs if you need it. But please,get out. Now.

Follyfoot · 28/06/2010 23:54

So much wise counsel on here, please listen. I do agree though that however much we are all willing you to leave him and never ever go back, in the end its only you who can make that decision.

But when you do go for good (which you will because you took the first brave step by posting on here), I will tell you this with certainty:

You will know its the bravest thing you have ever done

You will have given your dear precious baby a chance of a happy life, not one filled with misery and fear

You will be free and happy again one day; it will take time but it will happen

You will be loved by someone properly who will give you the love you deserve

None of this is your fault. We're pushing you to leave but unless you have been there, its impossible for anyone else to know how scary that very first step out of the door is, but as has been said, we are all holding your hand x

CantThinkofFunnyName · 28/06/2010 23:55

She's out and she's in the hotel. He, on the other hand, is in the flat! Couldn't quite make out whether he knows she is in the hotel or not because she said he shouted outside and then went in the flat... . anyway, for now, she is out and safe.

Right, I have to go to bed now.

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LittleMissHissyFit · 28/06/2010 23:59

oh thank god! I wondered if all that i'm going off to the other house was all balls... Seems it was, at least she has people around her now. Let up know how we can help.

NonnoMum · 29/06/2010 00:00

OP - can't stop thinking about your post. Please get the right help.

GypsyMoth · 29/06/2010 00:00

surprise surprise!!

thing is tho,he's bound to know she's in that hotel.....and i think he'll wait for her to come out.

just hope he doesnt book himself in as well!

really would have been better to go further....but i dont feel she's actually ready to leave him. it took me enough attempts. when i was ready i went and didnt look back,to me,it seems she's not quite there yet....

KerryMumbles · 29/06/2010 00:03

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GypsyMoth · 29/06/2010 00:05

it reminds me of the 'bread and milk' thread of last year!

dittany · 29/06/2010 00:08

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GypsyMoth · 29/06/2010 00:10

i worry,seriously,about her getting out of that hotel! just because of my experience with the ex,makes me nervous for her....

Dollytwat · 29/06/2010 00:17

Dismantle please don't go back to the flat tomorrow, it will be the thing you will regret. Arrange with someone to pick you up, if he thinks you are over the road he will watch for you. He will know you will come back for [insert important possession here].

Watch if you can for him to leave, look out for someone else watching you. Be paranoid and tell no-one where you are going.

He has betrayed you for sure, and that hurts. But you will get over that. I know so much what you're feeling, it hurts like hell, but you have someone else to be responsible for and your baby takes priority here.

It's about control, remember that. It's not about anything else, but control over you. He won't give up till he gets it. He won't let it go easily if he thinks he has it. You're not dealing with a normal person here. Your emotional distress gives him power and he'll use his charm to get you back. My ex can still make me think he's normal 5 years on because I WANT to believe it.

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tortoiseonthehalfshell · 29/06/2010 03:32

CantThink, are you in a position to go and pick dismantle up in the morning and take her back to yours, or something?

Dismantle, abused people tend to think it's their fault. Along with that comes the idea that if you just stood up for yourself and laid down the law a bit, the other party would back off and treat you better.

It's crap. Nothing you did, or didn't do, brought this on you; it happened because he's vile scum, pure and simple. But the downside of that is, nothing you do now will suddenly change him either. So please don't for a second think that just because you're standing up for yourself now, and you've told him you're hurt about this affair, he will become any less dangerous. This is the most dangerous time for you, and it is very very dangerous.

You've done an awesome thing today. Don't make the mistake of thinking that if you just approach him rationally, he'll act rational.

Listen to us.

If he truly believes that he's going to lose you, he will no longer have any incentive to leave you alive.

Jamiki · 29/06/2010 05:01

Kerry and Tortoise -

Chilling posts, but nothing more than is necessary I feel.

My own experience has shown me that all the dramatic predictions of this guys behaviour are so so possible it's scary.

The fact that he is her DSs dad makes it difficult and her youth to his years makes it harder still as she'll find it hard to determine what is likely and what is pure bullshit.

It's just a horrible shame that you need to experience some of it before you believe it.

With any luck Dismantle with have a moment of clarity and insight at some point and just head for the hills.

No doubt like many others, I worry for her being so close still. He's likely to sniff her fear out.

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