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Emotional abuse (and mitigation?)

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TotallyHappy · 24/06/2010 09:41

Hi folks, can anyone point me in the direction of sources of information regarding emotional abuse??

I've a DD 18 months and a new partner, I split from DDs father 6 months ago after 5 months of trying to leave I left with the help of a relate session to tell him exactly how I felt because I found him so difficult to talk to. All the time we were together I felt like there was something wrong with me as to why I couldn't make myself understood. In the past 6 months I've had a couple of visits from the ex and a million emails firstly wanting to get back together and now tellng me what a cold, heartless person I am for ruinng my daughters life.

I'm starting to realise (only now!) after Reading an article that struck home, that perhaps I suffered some sort of emotional abuse. This seems a bit of a strong word "abuse" but after seeking comfort and support from a close friend & my new partner their reactions to the things my ex says and does are helping to give me a little perspective.

My ex is now trying to change the access arrangements and I've said no, take this to mediation if you like but I'm not changing them. He's also raised a complaint against me introducng my new partner to our daughter (we've been together 2 months and he's met DD briefly - although new partner is my brothers friend so I feel secure he is "safe") and I let the ex know about the new partner so he could ask anything he wanted to know about someone who was going to be spending time with his daughter in the near future. Basically he raved and ranted in another couple of emails that I wasn't following his wishes. So I told him to book mediation and we would discuss it then.

Is this the right way to use mediation? Where can I find out about emotional abuse to see if it applies to me and how to handle him? Frankly I want him out of my life but DD needs him in hers and the effect of his word poisoning on her is a whole other concern.

So I'd like som

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TotallyHappy · 24/06/2010 09:44

By "raised a complaint" i mean another ranting email...

I can't work out how to edit OP!

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luciemule · 24/06/2010 09:48

this explains it well

cestlavielife · 24/06/2010 11:12

you going to need a really good mediator...he will twist and turn it and abuse you even there.

if you want to try it do - so you can tell a court you tried... but be very clear on what you intend to say and stick to your script "the times for contact will be xx and xxxx, the only flexibility is xxxx" .

if is good emdiator they will stop his rants - but be careful!

TotallyHappy · 24/06/2010 11:28

That's the thing. There is no flexibility - if anything his behaviour suggests I should reduce his access, he currently has 6 nights out of 14... And I wish now I hadn't given him that.

Thanks for the link luciemule, yep that was my life, how foolish I feel to have put up with it.

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luciemule · 24/06/2010 13:32

You are not foolish TH.
You know now that you have to chang things and you're putting the wheels in motion so stay strong and assertive (he won't expect it) and you'll get through. It's lovely you have a new partner you can trust - I hope it all goes well for you.

IsGraceAvailable · 24/06/2010 15:29

Good luck from me, too. Be wary at mediation - my ex stomped all over me in our sessions. I had my reasoning written down, but even so he managed to twist the whole thing while sounding rational. The mediator looked like a frozen rabbit! She must have known something was wrong, but not how to deal with it.

I'd never heard of emotional abuse at that time, so you're slightly better placed than I was. Just supporting C'est's advice of caution really.

tortoiseonthehalfshell · 25/06/2010 04:50

6 of 14 nights is a lot for an 18 month old, so I doubt he'll get far asking for more.

Without knowing any of your details I can't comment, obviously, but I would say that he's displaying fairly classic signs after the break-up - possessiveness about the new partner, harrassing you to get back together, accusing you of ruining your daughter's life, threatening you with court. None of those actually mean he was abusive, though - a lot of people act ugly after a breakup who didn't before.

If you want to share some of the stuff with us here, you can - lots of the regular posters on here have suffered emotional (and other) abuse and can help. Reading some of the long-running threads about recovery from abusive partners might help too - they (abusers) tend to all act in a weirdly similar, almost scripted way, so if you read other people's stories you might recognise your own.

And everyone is right; be careful about mediation. It's not recommended for abusive relationships, since it starts from the position that all parties are acting in good faith, and that's not the case with abusers.

TotallyHappy · 28/06/2010 16:10

OK... Not sure where to start with sharing my experience because it's only now, 6 months on and with a new partner that I'm starting to realise how unhappy I was.

So, perhaps if I share a few incidents that I remember and then people can say what they see?

I had a general feeling of not being "good enough" after DD was born I tried to hold everything together so that when the ex came back from work there would be tea, he used to huff if he had to make it, sulked, or would just watch TV until I did it. Even if that meant 9pm at night - because cooking was "my job".

I said I thought I might use my savings to get a new car when I went back to work and was earnign money for it - he turned round and said "no" and later when I brought it up again he denied the conversation. He denied a lot of our conversations.

He would push me into an argument becaus ehe knew I didn't like confrontation but he thought shouting and arguing was healthy. He made me cry over several arguments like that, stuff that I didn't even really care about. It made me very nervous.

If I wanted to cuddle on the sofa he would complain about being uncomfortable and move to the other sofa.

Hw would go to bed without saying goodnight and I would just realise that I was by myself, when I told him it upset me he told me I was being daft and carried on.

He made me feel like I had issues.

He copmplained about food I cooked if I made something he didn't like he would sulk.

On holiday he told me we were the fattest people there, another time he told me I just thought I had a flat stomach but that was only when i was lying down becuase it went to the sides. He used to give me advice on how to lose weight and comment on what I ate if it wasn;t what he thought I should be eating. I wanted to take up running, he would come with me and run faster and tell me to hurry up. When pregnant we went walking for the weekend, he would race on ahead and say "hurry up fatty" even though he knew it upset me. (I'm in tears now) The thing is that he knew I was having counselling for an eating disorder. And I look back at photos now and think how healthy I was

He would moan about my friends coming round and if they did would hide away and say things like "oh have they finally gone?" when they left - it made me not want to invite them again. He did that to my family too. We went to spend Christmas with my parents, he sulked and was generally miserable until we left. I never arranged to do it again.

He would complain if I was late leaving work (even by 5 minutes) because he had to wait for me. And then would sulk about it.

He used to make lists of chores and tell me we couldn't do a social thing (we'd have an invite for visiting my friends) because we had so much to do and then he would watch TV all weekend and we wouldn't do anything.

He didn't want to go out anywhere (even just for a walk) and eventually I stopped asking.

Do you know, I'm not sure if it was emotional abuse or not, or if I care because I'm not going to mediation with him. It's nothing or the soliciotrs after the ranting email he sent the other day, even my approach to our break up "wasn't normal" and I'm a cold hearted b apparently. His ranting emails make me feel defective. But a couple of close friends have read them and are shocked at how horrible he is being 6 months later when I've met him to talk things through 4 times since I left and he still tells me I've never explained why I left or what he's done wrong, he provokes me to say horrible things and then tells me how hurt he is. Gosh I feel awful, like I'm the one bullying him when all I've said is that I didn't want to be with him anymore because he made me unhappy and I no longer loved him.

That was quite therapeutic. I felt liberated at lunch to go shopping and buy food he didn't like even though it's taken me 6 months to shake that out of my system.

New partner is making me realise how bad some things were, he looks absolutely shocked at some of my responses to things and then realises why...

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IsGraceAvailable · 28/06/2010 19:04

Well done on buying what food you like! That, in itself, tells you enough about whether he was abusive. Brilliant that you have a nice new partner, and that he appreciates why you're sometimes upset.

See, an abusive person would make that your fault, wouldn't they? You're too sensitive, or neurotic, or you're getting at them ... Someone who cares about you, cares that you're upset and wants to understand why

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