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Ex is breaking our marriage. please help

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help1015 · 17/06/2010 21:30

my first time on MN and I don't know all the acronyms so bear with me.

Basically, DH and I have been together 7 years and married 5. Our DS is now five months. DH has two girls by ex aged 9 and 11. They were together 5 years and not married.

From the moment I met H I was fully involved with the girls and grew to love them like my own. We had them to stay every other weekend, bought them everything they needed, gone on lovely holdays, Disneyland, all the things we would if they were ours full-time.

But without boring you with detail, ex has been total utter nightmare from day one. She once told me H went to her place often for sex, going into crude detail. A year later she admitted she lied.

The odd occasion we had to change time H picked the girls up - say sat morning instead of friday night (it happened maybe 3 times in five years) she would phone me or H and yell abuse.

She has never worked. Both me and DH were holding down full-time jobs.

She has hit him in front of me and girls. She has screamed abuse outside our front door, and called the police several times - once, they went back to her house to give HER a caution. She used to make me tremble with fear.

There are many many other things I could add here.

In the end I put house on market and we moved 80 miles away from her. DH drove the distance every other weekend to pick up the girls. Then I fell pregnant. Incredible, since I had had fertility problems. Since the moment she found out her behaviour worsened. Half-way through pregnancy H asked her to start sharing the drive - even to do just 10 miles of it, but she has point blank refused.

Relations slowly got worse and finally, in last month of pregnancy I put my foot down and said either she drove part of the way or H should just go and see them on a sat, and that after DS arrived we should have four weeks to ourselves and not have the girls for a full weekend til I got the hang of the baby. Ex then refused to talk to H at all and stopped the girls ringing him. Relations went to nil.

Xmas was a nightmare - we had agreed the weekend we would have them, then she tried to alter arrangements saying we should get them on Boxing day or not have them at all. An hour later she said she was dropping them off that afternoon, we waited and nothing happened. She then demanded everything in writing from him (refusing to speak to him).

In all of this we had new baby, I am older mother and found it very hard!

DH did try writing but her new tack was "the girls are not available that weekend...".

Finally we had a letter saying she is moving with new boyfriend 130 miles away from us. She still insists that DH does all the driving to get the girls when they move, that she knows nobody among her circle of friends who shares the driving with an ex.

At this point, for the first time, D saw a solicitor who wrote to her. She has written back lying about us and saying she won't be "intimidated", insisting DH does the driving once she has moved and that anyway the girls may not be available once they have begun their "new lives". As a result of all of this (her not talking to DH mostly which made making arrangements impossible, and then saying the girls are unavailable) we have seen the girls twice since December.

My whole point is, it has brought relations with my husband to breaking point. I love my DS to bits and feel I can't enjoy being a mum because of the gnawing rage and uset her behaviour causes. Our hands are tied and we cant afford solicitors fees. We could get a Specific Issue Order over the driving but she can just ignore it I guess.

I no longer want anything to do with the girls really, though it's not their fault, and I have asked my husband for a separation. I look at my lovely son and don't want him involved with any of it.

I have always had to tell my H what to do over the ex - prompted him to see solicitor etc. He would have walked away from it all much more willingly. And maybe he was right, because this poisonous woman has brought our marriage to its knees and I want out. I can't face more years of this shite.

The oldest girl is coming here this weekend (first time we'll have seen her since Feb) and here I am at 2am awake and actually wishing she wasn't.

I want to take my DS away and start a new life. The way the ex has treated us and DH has made me lose resect for him and has totally brought me down. Any advice or help would be huge as neither of us has any family to support us.

OP posts:
help1015 · 17/06/2010 21:38

By the way, it is not 2 in morning now obviously. I wrote this in the early hours today but copied it as could not bear to write it here. I have done now though. Thankyou for any advice. Help x

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WhenwillIfeelnormal · 17/06/2010 23:13

Hmmm...there are a few things that jar in your post, especially in relation to his two girls, who never asked to be in the middle of all this. Being told that they couldn't see their Dad as much as they had been used to when you had your baby would have hurt terribly. No doubt aided and abetted by their Mum telling them that he cared only about his new family, I'm sure.

Neither your H nor his ex come out of this covered in glory tbh, but tell us more about the break-up of his relationship with her. Did he leave her for you?

It sounds a bit as though you want him to choose you and your DS over his DDs and I wonder what you mean by your DH would have "walked away from it all willingly"? Do you mean, walked away from his first family?

What ever his ex is like - and I agree she does sound awful - he will always have a responsibility to those girls, just as he will have a responsibility to your DS. As an unmarried father to the girls, I'm not sure what his access rights are legally, but presumably his solictor does and it seems the time is long overdue when access is established legally.

LisaD1 · 18/06/2010 08:35

I agree with wwifn. The part about your post that kind of lost my sympathy was about the expecting the ex to meet you with the driving when it was infact your/your DH's decision to move so far away, why on earth should she drive to you? Also, shutting his girls out in the first few weeks of their baby brother's life was imo cruel, they are young girls at a sensitive age (I have a 10yr old DD) who would have been hurt by that and this would imo have weakened any bond they still had with the 2 of you.

The ex does sound like a pain in the arse BUT your DH has a legal and moral obligation to his children, ALL of his children.

Is there no way you adults can all get together and sort this out? What's the ex's new BF like? Could he be a calming influence on the ex? How about her parents? Could they help?

There needs to be some kind of mediation here and you all need to put the girls first.

I do know it isn't easy, I too am an Ex wife and there are times I wish my exh would disappear off the planet but he is my DD1's father and SHE did not divorce him nor he her.

maduggar · 18/06/2010 09:55

Taking 4 weeks "off" from the girls was abit OTT. You wouldnt have done that if they lived with you full time, so why when you only have them for weekends? I would be majorly pissed off if my ex did that to our DDs!

You havent mentioned money - does your DH pay for his children? How is that sorted out?

If you stay together as a couple, you have to treat those girls as if they are your own, you dont make differences for your own child. Your DH, his ex and you all have to get to grips with that. There are 3 innocent children involved here, none of whom asked to be in this situation! I really feel for all 3

The ex does sound like a pain - was she bitter about their seperation?

susia · 18/06/2010 22:29

My opinion is that if he wants a relationship with his daughters (and you should encourage that) that he should willingly travel to see them, especially as it was you that moved 80 miles away and that he only sees them every other weekend.

I also think it was unfair that you wanted 4 weeks without them when you had your son. It was like saying his new child is more important than his two daughters.

I expect his ex has behaved like this because she is jealous and been left 'holding the baby' while he just has them on weekend visits and then expects her to partly drive some of the way to facilitate this.

I don't advocate being a single parent, it is really, really hard. I have been one for the past 7 years. Maybe she also feels this and is bitter she has had to do everything for her daughters without much support from him.

I think you should try your best to make your marriage work otherwise you may find yourself in the same position one day. If you try to understand where she is coming from and encourage the visits and help them to happen by encouraging your husband to do the travelling and becoming a bit closer to her (maybe through her new boyfriend) maybe your marriage to survive - because 5 years down the line you wouldn't want to be in her position.

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