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Mother in hospital - I feel frustrated and a bit cross to be honest...

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ChocDee · 15/06/2010 08:52

My mother is in intensive care after having had an acute asthma attack and almost dying because of it.

She lives in Sweden, I live in Belgium and my sister is in the UK.

I have a very unemotional relationship (I can honestly say that I have no maternal feelings towards her at all) with her with very little actual contact due to what has happened in the past and physical distance I guess. My sister has more or less cut all contact due to her own reasons - and my mother makes NO effort either.

My mother has engineered her life in such a way that she is now TOTALLY isolated. She recently moved far away from where she used to be (and where we grew up) once she retired. I had her over at X-mas and she wittered on that she was loving not knowing a single soul where she was.

So now she is in intensive care - with only t-shirt and knickers and there is NO ONE that woulld be able to bring her any clothes for when she returns home.

I feel frustrated and feel that she is not helping herself here (she is in her 60's).
She lives in cloud cookooo land.

A couple of years ago I went over and brought in 5 men to help clear her flat. 70 large bin bags of rubbish were removed (this included a LOT of rotting food from the floors etc)and we did not even scratch the surface of the pig sty.

The dust was an inch thick in places - including her bedroom. Bearing in mind that her bedroom was piled up with binbags all covered in dust there is no bloody wonder that she has developed asthma.

I was hoping that the move would give her a fresh start and I spoke to her about getting a regular cleaner in to help (she suffers from general ill health as well) etc, and she of course agreed.

Has she done that? NOOOOO! I asked her whether she has been hoovering the new flat. Nope. Not once since she moved in over a year ago - and she still has not unpacked of course. And her car is still stuffed with stuff from the final move 6 months ago. In her wisdom she has gone and bought a flat on the third floor without a lift. AAARRRGGHHH

So now I am looking into flights to get over there - as is my sister. We will try and sort the flat (but is it bloody pointless??) so that she can go home. I very much doubt that the hospital would be willing to release her into an empty flat that is no doubt absolutely disgustingly filthy.

Sorry about the rant. But what the hell can I do?? Neither my sister or I are nearby. She has absolutely NO friends. She has willingly isolated herself throughout the years and is totally estranged form her own sister and more or less from her own daughters as well.

I do not have any daughterly feelings towards her whatsoever. I am just doing this because there is no one else. It scares me a bit that I feel so bloody detached.

So... I go over there this week. But that's not the end of it is it?? What do I say to her? What do I say to the doctors? Is this final proof that she is not actually able to care for herself even though she held down a very responsible job with accolades galore up until she retired less than a year ago??

AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH!

Anyone else had any kind of experience of this???

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celticfairy101 · 15/06/2010 11:39

I would suggest a consult with a consultant psychiatrist and look around for places that have assisted living. She's clearly not coping and has some sort of mental issues going on. As she is now physically ill, this will only compound things.

Leave aside for the moment the distance emotionally between you and her and see it as helping someone. Take this opportunity to talk extensively with your sister about this but try not at this point, to be too judgemental regarding your mother. This is not the time to get her to admit to her failings as a mother.

I wish you both the best as you sort this mess out and I hope you can work something out for her that will be a good compromise for you all.

1footinfront · 15/06/2010 12:26

Hi there

I used to work in social services and used to organise clears of these sorts of flats.

I personally would leave the flat well alone. Medics and social workers will need to SEE how bad it is to be able to make a fair assessment of her mental health. I'm sure from what you say the asthma is likely to be due to dust collections and other bacteria in the air. If she has chosen to live like this (amazingly some people really do choose, whereas some do have mental health needs)

If you go over, or your sister, it gives the impression you are there to support your mum and can pop over whenever. You could go and make your opinions clear ( completely agree with celticfairy about the potential for supported placement) that you might think this might work, or you could realy just phone and speak to the consultant.

I have to say, in places in Europe there IS always someone else, that someone is social services and hospital support work. I worked in the Uk and co-ordinated discharge including cleaners, meals on wheels, home care, shopping to enable people to get home.
Ive commissioned specialist "life of grime" type contractors to do full clean down and also remove pests like bed bugs cockroaches and dust mites, along with mould and other issues that can increase poor health.

Im not sure what happens in Sweden, but my guess is- It would be a lot better than here!

Hope this helps a bit love from 1foot. xx

ChocDee · 16/06/2010 06:49

Thank you people!
i'm afraid I missed these yesterday as I was getting desperate so also posted in AIBU... sorry about that.

It now turns out she has had a heart attack - not anthma.

Me and my sister are heading over there, and I will try my hardest to be tactful but I fear that I will have to reign my sister in a bit.

Turns out that she is also busy accumulating massive debts. For most of her adult life her parents have massively financially supported her but they are now dead and the inheritance is gone.

It's such a bloody mess - all due to her crackpot decisions that she has taken throughout her life.

We will blow the whistle on her though. This cannot go on. We both live too far away to be able to offer any real support - I am most likely moving even further away within the coming year.

Thank you so much for the replies guys!

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