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Practical advice for leaving, please

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BigRedPanda · 13/06/2010 11:13

Our relationship is at the point where we really need to do something about the poisonous atmosphere between us, and splitting up seems to be the rational - although terrifying - thing to do. We've been married 11 years, have a 4 yo ds whom we both adore, and another much-wanted baby due in November.

However, things are really horrible between us, and it can't go on. We both work full time and he does very little around the house, although he thinks he does. He doesn't even iron his shirts, thinks going to the office in a creased shirt is 'fine'. He has drinking buddies at the local pub, although he rarely goes out with them, but unfortunately any real friends he has are in other cities, and his last real friend has just moved overseas. But rather than go out and meet some new friends or join a club, he's sulking indoors, telling me how my friends are pretensious wankers and I've ruined his life because I made him move to this country (of which he's a native). If I suggest how he could meet some new people, or urge him to attend a function, he tells me that I'm being controlling.

He's bitter and snide, and I've always had the sneaking suspicion that most of my friends don't like him very much. I know that my family (in another country) don't particularly like him, but welcome him for my sake. Friends in my home country have hinted quite strongly that I could do better. We've been in this country for 6 years now, in which time he's made few friends, and those he has made, he's moved away from or hardly sees. I have a wide circle of friends of varying degrees of closeness, mostly mums of children the same age as ours, but we have no couple friends. We had two couples that we got on very well with, but one set moved overseas, and I know the other couple dislike DH, as I am still in touch with them via kids' things, but we are no longer invited to things at their house.

I have chosen only one person in RL to talk to about this, a single friend, mother of 2 boys, straight-talker, good sort, who won't make any judgements. Yesterday I told her how miserable we both were, and that we were considering divorcing (which we have talked about a million times in our volatile 11 years) and she eventually made it clear that me moaning about it all wouldn't ruin her fledgling relationship with him, as she wasn't his greatest fan.

It's not a one-way street, as I've certainly said some nasty things in our fights as well, but it can't go on.

I think Life is saying, fairly clearly, move on and you will both be happier apart. But how do I do this? What's the first step? Our son adores his dad, and the new baby arrives in November. We are in a rented flat, which I can't afford to keep on by myself, and how the HELL can I afford to live anywhere on £100 maternity leave? I am absolutely terrified of taking this step, but for the mental and emotional health of all three (soon to be 4) of us, I think we need to split. Practical advice would be very welcome.

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seeyoukay · 13/06/2010 19:07

Live with Parents? Womens aid?

Forgive me but this smacks of "another baby will make everything ok" - if you've been unhappy for longer than 4 months why a "much wanted" baby due in November?

Maybe you should have considered "what if" and how you'd pay for it before having another child.

slouchingtowardswaitrose · 13/06/2010 19:17

That really isn't very helpful, seeyoukay.

The question is where does OP go from here, and she has asked for practical advice.

BigRedPanda · 13/06/2010 23:08

You are completely wrong about the baby, seeyouokay, and that doesn't answer my question, so bit of a pointless and unkind post when I'm feeling really crap already. Thanks a bunch.

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greeneyes747 · 13/06/2010 23:44

Don't think about what your family/friends think, you need to sort out what YOU want.

You're going to have a baby in November - and I know how tough it is with a new baby so it's going to be extra hard if you do split now. Not that I think you should stay together 'for the kids' but on a practical level it really helps having someone else to share the new baby stuff.

Maybe you should wait till after baby is born and your hormones have got back to normal, then you'll be able to think about what you really want?

Tough decision, and if you do decide to go it alone I wish you the best of luck (and lots of strength!)

Missus84 · 13/06/2010 23:55

I think you should try to see a benefits adviser/CAB type person and work out exactly what your financial situation would be if you split up - would you get housing benefit to help with the rent etc.

BigRedPanda · 14/06/2010 23:55

Thanks for the advice - you're probably right, Greeneyes, that it might help the situation if my hormones were a little more stable. And I'll get in touch with the CAB to find out what my options are, thanks Missus.

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TotallyHappy · 15/06/2010 13:27

I have to disagree with greeneyes about waiting until after the baby is born, after having a baby with someone who was useless... not only did I have a newborn to deal with but I also had to look after him too. I do agree that hormones might be getting in the way though.

Splitting up whenever and wherever you are in life is never easy. Find out what your options are through CAB and your local authority to see what benefits you are entitled to. Consider where you may live, this country or another? Long term or short term, with family perhaps? Consider whether you want to take a break in the short term or whether any form of counselling would be beneficial to either of you.

BigRedPanda · 15/06/2010 23:22

I have to report back that he is making An Effort - dinner and dishes today, being nicer, so maybe we can work through this. I hope so. But I'll still check out what my options are, so that if this Being Nicer is just a temporary blip, and it doesn't get better for longer than 5 minutes, I'll know what I can do, rather than panicking. Thanks to you all for your advice, much appreciated.

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booyhoo · 15/06/2010 23:29

i agree with totallyhappy. i would make the separation now before the baby is born. you will have sooo much more on your plate when it is born that it could be easier to just leave things as they are with your DH when really you dont want to.

make the break now. you know you arent happy and yes you are hormonal, but that doesn't mean what you are feeling is wrong. you will still be hormonal after the baby is born and you could also find yourself with PND and maybe become dependant on him, making it all the harder to leave.

i am really sorry you are going through this but i think you should make all the arrangements now while you dont have a newborn to deal with.

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