***** REAL MEN SUPPORT THEIR CHILDREN *****

[Unlikelyamazonian]

Real men do not walk away from their financial responsibilities to their offspring.

Real men pay fairly for the children they have fathered.

Real men show a duty of care towards their children.

Real men do not walk out and leave their children unsupported.

Men who walk away from their families without contributing financially to their children's upbringing should face serious legal and other consequences.

Just thoughts

sorry. you must think i'm a raging crazy lass! this is just such an emotive subject for me, it's such an injustice for my ds

Real men don't have a go at the mother when the child has told them that they want to spend more time with them.

Real men never let there DCs down.

Pinemartina: Take A Break, in particular, has an interesting campaigning streak (in and among the unintentionally hilarious crap love stories and glimpses into absolute car-crash lives). So they might actually want to run with the idea of an anti-useless-parents slot.
And they do pay for people's stories, admittedly only about £200 but that's better than a poke with a shitty stick.

SGB -Yes,I think they have had a love-rat campaign in the past. I am serious,actually! I think a fair bit of their content is pretty sound,there's a real streak of emotional intelligence going on - and the agony aunt page is about empowerment and self-help.

Trouble is,by exposing the fathers in that way, everyone else must also be named and photographed.I wonder if TaB would consider protecting the ID of dc's ,in the interests of what would very likely be a long running feature....

I think I will contact them,

PM: Yes, I remember the Love Rats articles. I also think they are happy enough to conceal the identity of DC if asked though, ok, by identifying you and the father it can lead to the identification of your DC at least locally ('Ooh, look, there's [LittlePM]'s mum in TAB')
If your DC are babies/toddlers then this isn't too much of a big deal, if they are primary age then it's possible that their classmates might see the mag (TAB being not porn or anything, it's a mag mums would leave lying around without really thinking about it) or overhear their mothers discussing the story.
It;s worth talking it through with them, though, remember that if you don't feel happy with what they suggest, you can walk away at least up until the point where you've signed the release form and they've gone to press.

It could have been worse, Reality - it could have been some of his poetry!

Seriously though, that's awful.

Real men don't have sex with prostitutes while actively ttc with their dw who has no clue whatsoever as to his extra curricular activities, thus endangering their child and it's mother before it even comes into being.

that's really bad,sgg

I know, sometimes I forget when he is around playing Super Dad and trying to tell me what to do. Need to post on MN to remind myself.

Are you still with him?

God no. He sees the kids regularly though and still tries to control things from the sidelines.

Good thread.

Real men don't make you get up with the baby in the night when you are ill and they are not. And then when they do get up in the morning, look at classic cars on eBay while you lie in bed, too ill to get up and deal with bouncing lively child who is left in your sole care.

Real men don't act like shifty 12 year olds, attempting to get out of doing any work whatsoever.

And Real men don't subsequently palm their kid off onto their own mother during the grudging 4 hours a week that they agree to see them post split, thus doing absolutely fuck all for their child.

Asehole

Real men support their children financially and do not abscond to foreign countries beyond any UK jurisdiction in order to avoid doing so.

Sorry to bring it back to the original post but I will keep re-iterating this.

As someone said earlier, it is child neglect and should be punished. It should be a criminal offence.

I know where my ex is teaching. A uk official from the CSA should be able to turn up on the steps of his Thai University and arrest him.

Bringing him to book might save the state a lot of money in monthly tax credits - which, thank god, I receive, otherwise I don't know how I would survive.

If my former husband gave me and our son the correct maintenance I would not be such a burden on the state and on taxpayers.

I repeat, it is child neglect. If I abandoned my child right now, I would face prison or at least some very serious intervention by social services.

Above all, my son deserves som answers and a some knowledge of his father's true actions. I do not want to have to fudge things : "daddy loved you but he didn't want to live withmummy". Because it's not true.

I am not bitter. I am making a serious cross-party point: abdsconding fathers from the UK should feel the full force of the British justice system.

It is what we tax payeres pay for.

The defaulty position should be that if a man fathers a child and then abandons that child and its mother they will face serious consequences that follow them around the globe

And yes the same should go for mothers who do the same.

There needs to be a more global approach to abandonment and neglect. From the UKs perspective. The UK has the power and competence, surely, to trace such men and arrest them for child neglect.

Yep instructions I was told similar-ish, though the CSA did actually write to me and say 'Case Closed as he is beyond our jurisdiction.' If he ever returned I could re-open the case and make a claim again.

Similarly, in order for a CCJ to be registered against him for not paying the costs of the divorce as ordered by the judge, I would have to make a claim against him through the County Court - which again would cost me and which I can't afford to do financially or emotionally (dragging it all up again.)

He still wouldn't have to pay me back the costs anyway - but at least there would be a CCJ on his credit record. I'm sure he wouldn't give a monkey's about that though - he had a few when I met him and I made him pay them off. He certainly didn't intend to ("why give the taxman my money" is what he said. A**hole)

Of course I know now, that I should have run far away at that moment but he made me feel sorry for him with a sob story about being poor.

His father had just given him 135k however and he still wasn't going to pay them off.

It seems incredibly wrong! Nice to know he's just been on a fancy five day scuba diving trip though. Pipi Pip!

Dear arsewipe, don't be so paranoid. No need to get rid of the fancy diving trip link on facebook now is there.

Where's your 'British backbone' gone man? (as you once said to Bryan as you tried to guilt-trip him into bringing wine in through customs for you)

The same way as your reputation and credit record?

Perhaps you left it with Park School, along with your pants down?