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Can alcohol ever be an excuse?

11 replies

IKnowItsNot · 28/02/2010 16:16

First of all, I've name changed for this (for obvious reasons) - I promise I'm not a troll.

Background: been with DH 5 years; no children; was completely faithful to him for 4 years. He did things that I would class as 'cheating' right from the start - sending sexual texts to other women but (according to him) never did anything physical. I always forgave him and he promised never to do it again - I truly believe that he completely loves me (yeah, yeah!). Just over a year ago I believe that he actually had a sexual relationship with someone, although he absolutely denies that it was physical again. I found texts, emails and photos. We almost split up over it. I didn't know if I could live with a man that I will never completely trust ever again. However, we worked through it and he has done a lot to build up the trust - phone always left lying around now (he used to take it EVERYWHERE - toilet, shower, etc), has cancelled his facebook account, we're planning a move so I know that there's not ongoing affair. (bear with me, I'll come to my point!)

Anyway - About a year ago, something just changed in me. I got really drunk and slept with someone else - a one-night stand. In the moment I just remember thinking "f*ck it, why shouldn't I?" I've always had low self-esteem and not been able to turn people down (when I was single) who show an interest as I find it a huge ego boost - even if I wasn't that attracted to them. Since then, I've snogged a few random people while out clubbing. On Friday night I slept with a random person again.

I absolutely detest myself. Sometimes I justify it in my head. Sometimes I think that he's done it to me to so why shouldn't I. Sometimes I think it's OK to have a bit of fun as long as he never finds out. But I know that both of these things are absolutely no justification for my actions. I was absolutely devastated when I found out what he's done and couldn't understand why or how he could do that to me. Now I am worse than he is.

The thing is, I'm a very shy, reserved person until I get drunk. Every single time I've cheated, I've been very very drunk. And, although I know that it's not a valid excuse, it is true that none of these things would have happened had I been sober. Many times I have sworn that I will not get drunk again - but then I do. I don't think I have a drink problem. I don't go out often (maybe once every few months) and I can go out and just have a few drinks. But every now and then I will go out and get really, really wasted. I just don't know why I do it? if it's a self-esteem issue - why can't I just get chatted up, feel good about it and then say "sorry I'm married". I know that it doesn't sound like a great relationship but after a rocky few months we are actually really happy and I want it to work so much.

I'm not quite sure why I'm posting - maybe to get it off my chest, maybe to hear from someone else who has done the same and managed to stop, maybe just to hear you tell me what a horrible, selfish person I am.

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thehillsarealive · 28/02/2010 16:24

I am not going to judge what you have done - just wanted to ask if you had protected sex? No point giving yourself an STI or worse just because you were drunk and had sex.

You have not forgiven your husband otherwise you wouldnt have slept/snogged random people.

Think that is all i have to say, not going to verbally beat you up, not going to condone it either.

IKnowItsNot · 28/02/2010 16:36

Yes - have always been protected.

I think that you are right - I never have forgiven him have I. I hold it against him but at the same time I don't feel that I can hold it against him as I am now worse than him.

Don't want anyone to tell me that drinking is a valid excuse for this. I think in my head I've reasoned that if I make a resolution that I won't get drunk again, then it'll never happen again - therefore problem solve. But it won't be will it.

Shit

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ineedabodytransplant · 28/02/2010 20:07

You say ..every single time you have cheated. Hardly revenge then is it you cheat regularly? I think that if you realise you only cheat when drunk then either you plan to get drunk and cheat, or you have no control and I don't know which is worse.

Good job you are not so drunk that you manage to remember protection.....so maybe you are not so drunk that it is the alcohol to blame.

You don't feel you can trust him but you can't keep your legs shut?? What makes you so trustworthy then?

I bet if this was a bloke writing this the heavens would fall on him, but you want everyone to understand.

Simple answer is that you know drink makes you easy..therefore DON'T DRINK!!

Sorry, I may be in the minority here(especially as a bloke) but much as I would love to say what I think you are I can't

BrahmsThirdRacket · 28/02/2010 20:10

It looks to me like you don't really love him and he doesn't really love you. Maybe get out before kids come along and complicate everything.

Janos · 28/02/2010 20:24

What an unpleasant post ineedabodytransplant. Your last sentence is a quite breathtaking example of passive aggressive nastiness.

I think it's very clear OP isn't asking for praise or boasting, she's asking for advice.

Sorry I don't have very much practical advice OP but I think it's clear you are unhappy with this state of affairs or you wouldn't have posted. I'm sure you will get some level headed and helpful advice from people who have been in similar situations.

ItsGraceAgain · 28/02/2010 20:26

IME, people who change character when drunk have serious underlying issues. What's the root of your low self-esteem, do you know?

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 28/02/2010 20:29

I don't think you love or trust each other very much. I can't see how you can carry on with so little trust. You don't trust him and he clearly can't trust you. I don't think it's alcohol, or even you, but the relationship that is creating this situation.

Sorry, but it wasn't a one off, you can't be faithful to him, he can't be faithful to you. Maybe neither of you can be faithful at all, I don't know, but I do know that if you cheat more than once and don't learn the 'lessons' you need to learn, there is a problem in your relationship that needs serious fixing.

Janos · 28/02/2010 20:29

Reading your OP again I see you have no children. That puts a different slant on things. It doesn't sound like a very happy or settled relationship.

Do you feel like you have put so much effort in that you don't want to give up, or something like that?

ninah · 28/02/2010 20:32

Well said janos
op I think you are still really angry with your dh (esp the lying - did he ever admit the truth about his infidelities?) and this is the way it is coming out

Tortington · 28/02/2010 20:33

i agree with bodytransplant actually

either piss in the pot or get off.

theres no inbetween.

get a backbone and just make yoursel a life - staying with him becuase you're lonley is just sad.

AnyFucker · 28/02/2010 20:35

I am sorry to say this, but whatever is going on with you both, I am not going to judge, but I think your marriage is over

You have no dc...so get out of it now

This is no way to live, unless you negotiate an open marriage...however, I doubt that is really what you want

dissolve your marriage and then have as much casual sex as you like

somehow, I don't think that is really what you want though

finish your marriage and start again, with someone you can trust and don't have to take revenge on

if you carry on like you are, you are going to get into trouble of some sort

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