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Suggest a book please? DH's toxic dad.

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bluenosebear · 26/02/2010 11:51

DH needs help. Quite a bit of background because I'm hoping someone can suggest some reading to help DH sort himself out. His stepdad is very abusive, and DH prefers to work through things for himself and really doesn't want councelling. His stepdad was fine with DH until his bro (my BIL) was born. At this point, my FIL told DH (5 years old) "I don't need you any more, I have my own son." From then on, DH was responsible for his brother really. DH was pulled around by the hair and throat, pinned against the wall, told he was useless. If DH did anything it was either wrong, not done fast enough or not done properly. He was screamed at, constantly belittled and disbelieved about anything. He watched his brother treated like a little god, and my MIL got the same treatment as my DH. There's a LOT more, but you get the general idea.

This still affects DH, and he has tried to talk to his Mum, who knows it wasn't the best childhood and feels horrible about it so the 2 of them treat it as a joke because it's the only way they can deal with it. But DH still has flashbacks. If we so much as disagree, he panics. He always assumes he's in the wrong and is very self-depricating. He has no confidence, to the point where he can't believe he has a job and his bosses think he's GOOD at it! He can't say no to anyone incase they don't like him, and he's desperate for anyones approval. He's always surprised when people want to be friends with him and think he's worth spending time with. He will outright lie to make himself look better than he is when the truth is actually perfectly fine. He won't take the initiative with anything, with me or anyone else incase it's wrong and he's still afraid of being screamed at, even suggesting what to have for dinner. He's always so proud of himself when he disagrees with someone and he's able to say so - surely he should be able to freely express himself without fear of being wrong?

He knows its not normal, and is the most FANTASTIC father and husband. He is very affectionate always hugging and touching and kissing as though if we don't it's like we don't love eachother enough? I don't mind that tho, not a complaint! I love him so much I want to help fix his head.

Sorry to waffle, and I could go on. The man is truly toxic (classic - won't even speak to me since I stood up to him. I have to apologise first which isn't happening in this or any other reality). Other family members won't speak to him either and he thinks they're being horrible to him. So please, any suggestions for reading to help DH sort his head out? I want to find something to help him realise his self worth, and how to stand up for himself, and that if you're in the wrong it's really not the end of the world and you won't get beaten for it. It's OK to be imperfect and still love yourself. I've given a lot of detail here, and quite likely outted myself so if you know who I am, please dont say anything. If you know the man in question and my DH I'm sure you'll understand.

I'm sorry this is so very long, I've been through several times and taken bits out but its still an essay. Thanks if you have read it!

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CastleDouglas · 26/02/2010 12:21

You and your DH could have a look at Susan Forward's 'Toxic Parents', it helped me a lot. FWIW, I'd say you've already helped him a lot by being so understanding. I hope that doesn't sound patronising.

The fear of disagreeing your DH has is a very real fear, if that makes sense. I still panic if this happens as (subconsciously) I probably fear being shouted at, hit, etc.

I feel so sorry for your DH, but he's already been successful, by breaking the cycle of abuse and being a good husband and father. Hope that waffle makes some sense.

BigBadMummy · 26/02/2010 12:24

I found this book extraordinary.

It is called "if you had controlling parents" and funnily enough my dad recommended it to me after he started on a journey of sorting out his childhood memories and realising the impact they had on me.

Here

AttilaTheMeerkat · 26/02/2010 12:24

Is his Mum still with this man?.

I would also suggest the book mentioned.

Your husband may also want to look at this website:-

www.napac.org.uk It is for adult survivors of childhood abuse.

I respect the fact that he wants to sort things through for himself but he may not actually be able to do this on his own.

bluenosebear · 26/02/2010 12:30

Thank you for all your suggestions. I understand his fears of being wrong and shouted at are real, and you can see it on his face if we disagree he sort of clamps up and can't talk. Attila, he doesn't want to go to see anyone but I think if I could show him it could help, he would. This is why I want to get a book (and show him that website - thank you). And for those of you wondering, yes MIL is still with him. He's convinced her that shes worthless without him and would never find anyone else.

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bluenosebear · 26/02/2010 12:33

CastleDouglas that didn't come across as patronising at all thank you for the post. I understand it's a real fear he has, and I try to remember that. Bigbadmummy's book looks worth a read too.

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CastleDouglas · 26/02/2010 12:36

Bluenosebear, thank you. Bigbadmummy's suggestion is good, another book to buy I think!

BigBadMummy · 26/02/2010 12:49

I do highly recommend the book.

I didnt think I had controlling parents at all. As I say, my dad gave this to me after having counselling for an incident he was dealing with that stemmed from his childhood (he is 63!).

His counsellor recommended it and as soon as he started reading it he realised it summed me up totally.

Having read it I can see that there are lots of things I do that stem from my childhood that I hadnt even realised were due to my father being controlling.

The book has lots of exercises and really helped me a lot.

It made me realise that abuse doesnt have to be just the usual examples such as sexual or pyschological. It can take all sorts of forms.

Your DH has you to help him along the way and that is a massive plus.

You will get there, it will take time and every journey starts with a single footstep.

Your buying a book or looking at a website is that step.

Please keep us posted.

bluenosebear · 26/02/2010 13:27

I just wanted to say thanks for the webpage. I've been reading it (and crying), and can see so much. It's all in the way he constantly needs me to assure him he's useful, and small things like his favorite film which I thought was a "boys thing" anyway, I can see WHY now. He sees himself in the main character. Just reading the website I actually feel better equipped to do something. I will be buying both those books I think.

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