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A hard-working DP and a broken promise... (long)

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aurynne · 17/02/2010 20:20

Hi all,

After months and months of lurking and participating just with some comments on other people?s threads, I can now unfortunately contribute with my own one. I could very well do with some advice here.

I have always been a very independent woman, moving frequently from country to country, with a career that I love and I?m very good at. In 2008 I met my current DP, when we were both working for the same company, and we clicked almost instantly. Shortly into the relationship he was offered a fantastic position at the other side of the country. He is also really good at what he does, but our work philosophies are very different: I work hard but try equally hard to have a life out of work. I won?t do too much overtime, as I believe my company is paying for my services, and I am entitled to a private life to have my hobbies and my travelling. My DP on the other hand, gets very stressed at work, does frequent overtime and sometimes has problems sleeping as a result. Not being at home enough was already one (of many) factors in the breakage of his previous marriage.

When we were discussing about the possibility of moving down South to his new job, I said I was keen to go with him. This would mean leaving a job I loved and many friends that I had made during the years to move to a city where finding a job in my area would be much tougher, and where I knew no one. I nevertheless agreed, with just one condition: if I moved with him, I wanted to have time with him, not to be home on my own. He would have to make sure the overtime and weekends away would be the exception, and not the rule. Otherwise I wouldn?t commit. He promised it would be like I said, and during the contract discussions with the new company he was assured this would be no problem.

So I left my job and joined him, we bought a beautiful house together (all my life savings went into the mortgage) and started what I thought would be a fantastic life with the man of my dreams.

Trouble is, it is not.

As I feared, I barely see him. He is frequently home late. He brings work home. Sometimes I wake up at 5:30 am to hear him working in the computer or receiving calls from work from oversees producers and clients. He is never home when he says he will. He has stopped having time to even give me a call in the middle of the day or write me a line to see how I?m doing.

And I?m not doing good either. It has taken me 4 months to find a job and I have been feeling down and lonely. Not having a job has made meeting friends very difficult. I can never know when he?s going to be home, and so can?t plan any evening activity together. Even when we?re having dinner, the phone can go off any time and he will interrupt anything he?s doing to concentrate in the call. Sometimes dinner will go cold waiting for him to come back to the table, he seems unable to tell the person on the phone he?s just busy at the moment, and call them later.

About me, I am starting to feel bitter and resent him for breaking his promise to me. Had I known this was going to be like this, I wouldn?t have left my job and my friends. As it is, I am now trapped in a beautiful cage, with no friends, no support, no partner and feeling cheated. He keeps saying ?work is tough at the moment, it will get better from next week?, but he has been saying this for months now, and there is always something new coming up that means he has to leave for the weekend, or work early mornings or late evenings. He does not get extra pay for the evenings or weekends he works, and when I ask him if I can join him during the weekends (to make sure at least we will spend evenings and nights together) he says the company does not encourage partners to attend. I would understand if this was during working hours? but hell, weekends are for us to be together? his company takes him away from me and does not even accept me being there??? (of course, I would be paying my own ticket, food and accommodation, I am no leech).

My dear grandma died last week and I am so far away from my family (they live on the other side of the World). I am calling my parents and uncles and aunties, but I am so sad I can?t be there with them hugging them and helping them go through this. And I am here alone. He spends barely a couple of hours a day at home, and even when he is here, he is not fully here, IYKWIM. Today he?s just left for the next 4 days for a working appointment, including the weekend. He won?t be back until Monday morning, and he has to go right back to work. I am thinking about leaving and staying in a flat on my own, as I prefer to be physically alone than to feel lonely, and I hate the bitter, depressed, disgusting person I am becoming.

What would you do in my situation? Am I being unreasonable here? I have no friends to talk to, and I can?t tell my family now about my own unhappiness, as they are still reeling after my grandma?s death. I hate to talk about personal stuff on the phone, and that stops me from calling my friends back at the previous city I lived.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

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PotPourri · 18/02/2010 12:17

Poor you. YANBU. He is being crap and choosing work over a relationship (AGAIN - as his first marriage broke up in the same way).

You need to tell him all that you just told us. Not in a bitter way, in a matter of fact way. You had an agreement, he is not following it. You followed your side of the bargain. He has breached the contract (to use businessy terms). And he is likely to lose you as a result. If he wants to choose work, then you need to walk away. If he chooses you, then he needs to be willing to work hard to do that - maybe he needs some counselling to understand why he is wunwilling to commit to a life outside of work. (Do you have any kids?)

So sorry for you. You can't let this go on, your strong independant charater will be eroded if you allow him to - and what a shame that would be, you sound like a fab go getter. Don;t let him turn you into a moper

aurynne · 18/02/2010 21:01

Hi again, and thanks again for all your help.

I already found the parallelism between his job and an OW myself... it is creepily similar, isn't it? With the difference that I just can't go the his supervisor's office and call him a dirty bitch (or in this case, a bastard) and keep his hands off him. Sigh.

When I mentioned that his being a workaholic had an effect in his previous marriage, I omitted many (and much bigger) problems I don't want to get into, that ended with his marriage breaking. Believe me, even his workaholism pales in comparison with the rest of the factors, and this was the only one where he was to blame. Still, I'm digressing.

I think I will show my DP this thread. I do believe reading my post and all your excellent contributions will be a shock to him, and it may be just what he needs. I am sure he has never even considered that anyone would think he needs therapy. It may be an eye-opener for him, and I hope it is.

Please keep posting, anyone that has been in this situation, and be as blunt as you want. When my DP is back on Monday (evening, probably) we will have a conversation, long overdue. And he will read this.

(and then I'll come back and tell you how it went

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AnyFucker · 18/02/2010 21:10

you want blunt ?

I have hesitated posting this before now (and am not normally known for my restraint...)

I would be doing my fucking nut over the non-invitation to the work-but-not-compulsory weekend things

why are you deliberately excluded ?

on any other thread, this man would be accused of shagging around

I actually would be investigating exactly what he was doing on these weekend jollies (and who with...)

you did ask

aurynne · 18/02/2010 21:24

hahahaha hi AnyFucker . Yes, I asked blunt. And no, I am definitely sure there's no shagging around. I was VERY upset at being excluded that particular weekend. It is a business visit from the UK, and they're going to take this people to a beautiful place in NZ. My DP did ask if I could join him, he would have loved to have me there with him. It was his boss who said "well... you know... no one else's DW/DP will be there... if she REALLY wanted to...". So he got the message, and I did too. He is supposed to use the "relaxed" time to involve these people in business conversations, and having partners around would distract him and other employees from this purpose.

I have no intention to stay home crying either, I have invited a (male) friend of mine to come around this same weekend (he arrives tonight) and we'll be having a great time hiking.

Last Thursday he went to work at 7 am and came back at 6:45 pm and he brought the bread and veggies untouched, because he hadn't had time to make a sandwich in the whole day. If he ever has an affair he'll have to multitask big time...

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AnyFucker · 18/02/2010 21:27

well, you wouldn't be the first to say that aurynne

but you know him best, of course

and I am not being nasty, or trying to make you question things

it's just if you were to show him this thread, like you said you would, I think for many women this would be a valid concern, yes ?

and he needs to know how understanding you are being, tbh

I wouldn't

aurynne · 18/02/2010 21:34

I am not naive about affairs, I was cheated on once before. Fortunately I moved on and didn't turn into a distrustful person. I always give my partners complete trust, the only ones who can break it is themselves. Because of my DP's history and his character I find it extremely unlikely he will ever cheat on anyone.

That said, if I am wrong, I basically would have to find him naked in bed with an equally naked woman, both of them screaming in passion, because I am usually extremely absent-minded to clues and hints... I would live happily in ignorance until then

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AnyFucker · 18/02/2010 21:39

your post didn't automatically make me think infidelity, tbh

the weekend work stuff to which you are patently not welcome would piss me off mightily though, that is for sure

Rhinestone · 18/02/2010 22:32

He doesn't work for GE does he?! If so it will never change.

Sorry for you.

warthog · 18/02/2010 22:49

well i can see it from both sides.

if i were you i'd call my old company and see if i could get my job back.

i used to work in the city where they pay you good money but they take their pound of flesh. i'm not a workaholic type but the culture meant i couldn't escape it. it's EXPECTED that you work 12 hour days and work weekends and nights with no extra pay. and if you don't do it, boy do you know about it. you just can't get out of it.

is it possible that if he took a job in a different environment he could escape all this, or do you feel it's in his blood? no matter where he worked he'd be consumed by it?

if that's the case, then i'm afraid that he's not going to change and the best thing you can do is get your old life back.

my dh is a workaholic but we've worked out a good compromise where he works from home in the evenings. fortunately i have a lot of hobbies that i can get involved in and i'm quite a recluse so it doesn't bother me. he doesn't spend time on the phone though. in your situation i think i would struggle too.

i'm surprised that no-one has done this, since i remember your last thread so here's a very un-mn

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