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Sensitive subject, teenage DD attacked...reposted to busier topic

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AnyFucker · 26/01/2010 22:20

Hi All, I am re-posting this with the permission of the OP as she posted it in area with not much traffic at the end of an old, possibly dead, thread

Have re-worded it very, very slighty so the context makes sense.

Any input welcome.

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I am desperate to talk to someone who has gone through what I am going through, my DD now 16 was raped last year, she was 15, we are due in court next month, the vile pig who did this is currently in prison and has just been on trial for another rape so we are waiting to hear what the sentence is for that also.

my DD is destroyed inside, my cheerful cheeky girl has gone, she is so aggresive now, and keeps running off when things dont go her way, she won't go back to school, its been almost a year now come spring, and she should be studying for her GCSE's. She will not accept counselling or anger managment, or help of any kind, and i am so scared that she is not going to cope with the court case, i know i cant even come close to understanding how she feels,

she has nightmares and often ends up sleeping on the floor in my room as she wont be on her own if her big sister isn't home, she doesn't feel confident to go out much other than very locally, i don't know how to reach her, and i just want to make it all better for her , i don't think there is a day that goes by that i dont think about what happened to her, i had been pacing up and down in my living room venting my anger at her cos she was late home(it was about 10pm)and her curfew was 9, trying to call her mobile and thinking she had switched it off to be smart and stay out later, my door knocking and me marching to answer it and give her what for, only it wasnt her , it was two police officers, who came in , sat me down and told me my Daughter had been attacked and they had come to bring me to the hospital where she was,

i could hardly breathe when i saw her, she looked so broken and lost,i cried more tears for her that night than i think i have ever cried before in my life, and it is so weird as i have dreams where i am there with her, i see what he done to her as though i really was there, does that sound mad?? i have tried to talk to her but she clams up, so now i don't but i feel like i should, i need her to know that she doesnt have to keep it all in, but every time we have had any kind of appointment in connection with it, either with, the Haven, or the sapphire unit she is unbearable to be around afterwards, she becomes so aggressive,

her SOIT officer rang last night to confirm a date to view the court and she totally went off the rails, she ended up attacking her sister and throwing a shoe at her head which caused a big lump on her forehead, ny older DS cried and told me that i dont protect her or do anything when younger DD attacks her and that if it had been the other way around i would have sent her to her room and gone mad at her, i did get inbetween them and break the fight up, but i don't know how to deal with yDD at the moment and i am scared she will run away again if i try to discipline her or tell her off, i desperately need help with her but she is just refusing everything, i feel like i am almost scared of her now, not in the way that she would hurt me (although she has threatened to hit me) but scared of her reaction, scared of making things any worse than they already are,

can you please help try to help my DD cope with the whole court thing, as it is getting closer and closer, sorry my post is so long, i just have so much questions and emotionswhizzing round and round in my head and i dont know who to approach with them,

i cannot bear the thought of my family knowing, it would break their hearts if they knew, so i have to keep lying to them, that she is doing great at school and all is fine,

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BitOfFun · 28/01/2010 21:04

Leenie, I am so so sorry for what you and your daughter are going through. I have shown my 13 year old this thread though, and we've had a really useful discussion about the dangers of the internet, and your excellent point that most teenagers assume attackers will be older. I think it has helped her understand why I'd rather she let me know where she was going and who with, and why some kinds of meet-ups with friends might not be safe. It did seem to sink in.

I really do wish you all the best for the future and hope you can both come through this- like Eldridge, I never told my mother when I was attacked as a fifteen year old, because I felt too embarrassed and ashamed. Somewhere under all this anger is a girl who trusts you, and I think you are to be commended for that. Wishing you strength x

Leenie · 28/01/2010 21:06

Its been deleted, thankyou whoever did it for me, x.

AnyFucker · 28/01/2010 21:09

leenie, I have already reported it for you (sorry to presume). I am being a right bossy bugger at the moment

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AnyFucker · 28/01/2010 21:11

a few people (more than you think...there are lots of people who lurk but don't post) will have read that and understood its message, so you did right

best for it to disappear now though

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justwantedtosay · 28/01/2010 21:55

My experience was a little different to your daughter's but I just wanted to share a thought. I know you want your daughter to talk about it with you, but as a teen, and even now I feel an extremely strong desire not to discuss with my close loved ones. Not because I don't trust them or value them - quite the opposite - but because I don't want what someone else did to me to 'pollute' my relationship with them. I see all the reasons why this is illogical, but I feel that very strongly. So please don't feel it is a shortcoming of your (as we mothers often do ;) ) that stops her from talking to you. I found myself feeling guilty for taking up a counsellors time and as a result it was pretty useless to me, but I found using an online support group felt optional, anonymous and more independant. This helped me get over it, more than anything else, and I would highly recommend it, but she might need to do that herself, I'm not sure you can do more than subtley nudge her in that direction as she needs to know that whatever she writes won't enter her 'real life' at all and if you know too much about these things she might be less confident of that.

Another idea might be giving her an empty book, that she can write whatever she likes in with the promise that it'll never be read, and tell her she can destroy the book if she wants when she is finished, burn it/ shred it, maybe after the trial is over, whatever she wants. I know some people use blogs in a similar way, but I don't know much about how they work. The important thing is that she has anger which is good, and that she can somehow make this productive - a "no way are you going to f**k up my life!" kind of attitude, but I'm not sure how I got there, or how to help her get there, I'm sorry.

I think you are probably doing these - you daughter sounds lucky to have you - but if it helps... I wish my mother had provided quiet hugs, and gentle reminders that she was there for ME, that she loved me, that it wasn't my fault, that she believed me and that she wanted to do whatever would help me feel better. I didn't want to be treated differently, or like a child - going through an 'adult' experience like this can make you grow up very quickly in an effort to be strong and fight back (which is positive if sometimes confused) while also needing the time to be completely vulnerable and kept safe and looked after by somebody else. Also, I know it sounds silly, but I sometimes wished she would offer to take me shopping for clothes, to make me feel clean, new, able to start afresh and to know she was supporting me in that, but I can see how that may not be the same for everyteenager .

And I think something like kickboxing would be an excellent idea

justwantedtosay · 28/01/2010 21:57

sorry, that wasn't meant to be such an essay , or quite that many thoughts!

BitOfFun · 28/01/2010 22:11

Good points there, I think.

AnyFucker · 28/01/2010 22:16

very good

sorry to say that insight was gained though experience

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mumonthenet · 28/01/2010 22:47

I saw you on the other thread Leenie, I so much hope that you will find some help here and some solace for yourself and your DD.

You are clearly suffering deeply - I hope you have some support and care for you too...that way you will be better able to help your dd. I cannot begin to imagine your pain.

toomanystuffedbears · 29/01/2010 14:19

Leenie-so sorry for what your dd, you and your family are going through.

I can recommend martial arts classes as previously mentioned. Not only does the vigerous exercise help tremendously-enodmorphins, etc.; but in some classes the students have to touch each other and that might help her to reestablish a normal sphere of personal space, iyswim. It will take enormous courage for her to just try but it will be in a safe place for a great purpose. Maybe find an all girl class to start?

Also on journaling: private writing (also previously mentioned) and immediate shredding (or burning, or other method) can be a strategy for getting a level of relief-seeing the nastiness destroyed helps 'get it out' and resolve it even if it needs to be done many times over.

Best wishes for you and your dd and family.

Anyfucker-thanks for reposting. I missed leenies detailed post, but will warn my people about negative security aspecs of FB. Thank You!

mumonthenet · 29/01/2010 14:25

I missed L's deleted post also. Can anyone tell me roughly the relevant parts about fb - would quite like to show it to my teenaged dd's. Is it possible to do that without causing any potential probs for L?

I hope you are ok Leenie.

AnyFucker · 29/01/2010 17:48

Leenies detailed post in a very tiny nutshell...

this was a normal-seeming boy of a similar age and she met him initially with friends, so thought she was safe because he didn't fit the teenage stereotype of older, depraved type of person who could do such a thing

then it all went horribly wrong, she didn't see it coming (as you wouldn't)

leenie was trying to say we should warn our dd's about internet safety, never to meet people you don't know and to never rely on anybody or anything being what it appears to say it is

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mumonthenet · 31/01/2010 16:49

af, thanks for that (only just seen it.

Leenie, how are you?

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