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What do I do about this friend?

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NotANewbie · 21/12/2009 09:07

I have a friend, she's chatty, intelligent, opinionated, has had interesting experiences in her life - she could be an interesting and fun person to be with. However, every conversation ends up being about her misfortunes. I don't doubt that there has been (and still is) a lot of tough and unpleasant stuff going on in her life, even though I generally only ever get her side of the story. But I'm not sure I can take all this harping on and on about it all the time.

She knows - she's told me so! - that she keeps driving friends away because of her negativity. She feels very isolated. But I've seen her sitting at a table of chatting women, waiting for 'her turn', with her face getting sulkier and sulkier. Within a short while of her begining to monopolise the conversation, the others begin to glaze over and eventually leave the table.

I wish I could help her stop. She has the potential to be the person she wants to be again - even if only at the times she is socialising, and not at the times she has to deal with ongoing issues. And surely getting some pleasure out of life would help deal with those issues?

But can you change a person?

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cherrylips · 21/12/2009 10:09

CBT may well help her.

Anniegetyourgun · 21/12/2009 11:01

Oh god, I hope it's not me

TheMightyToosh · 21/12/2009 11:16

If she has confided in you, could you have a secret signal to remind her when she starts getting negative? Agree beforehand to pinch or kick her under the table when she starts so she can snap back into positive mode before it gets annoying.

Maybe you could explain to her that it takes a bit of practice to get out of a negative habit/state of mind, so you're willing to be her reminder and help her break the cycle?

NotANewbie · 21/12/2009 14:00

Not a bad idea, Toosh.

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TheMightyToosh · 21/12/2009 15:03

I get my DH to do this for me. I am prone to wondering off on a rant about people, life, porr customer service, automated phone services, etc etc and he's told me it can get a bit much sometimes.

So he squeezes my hand when I start, so I can bring back the positivity.

I have to say it does work, because if you are a well-practiced negative person, it does take a while and some practice to break that habit.

EcoMouse · 21/12/2009 16:30

I'm interested in the responses and hopefully there'll be more.

I've had a melodramatic and lengthy sequence of experiences but I could live without details of them entering most conversation I have!

When I become aware that I'm gravitating towards subjects I'd rather avoid (and I really would, it's just that so much of my current state of being is related to these events!) ....I just tend to shut up and withdraw, which can be equally as unsociable

NotANewbie · 22/12/2009 13:34

How do I go about making such a suggestion without causing offence?

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warthog · 22/12/2009 14:42

wait til next time she brings it up. then say 'i could nudge you to remind you to keep positive if you like.' she can't really take offence with that can she?

TheMightyToosh · 22/12/2009 16:30

Make it mutual. Before you go out, say 'I've been feeling a bit crap lately, and I'm likely to go off on a rant tonight, but I don't want to because I want to have a good, positive night, so if I start getting negative with my conversation, give me a nudge to remind me and I'll do the same for you'.

Like it is a pact to have a really positive upbeat night, a little experiment between the two of you to see if you end up feeling better for it.

Or pitch it as a Christmas thing if you go out together over the holiday - Christmas cheer and all that

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