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Feeling very confused

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Karemm · 16/11/2009 04:39

Hi

I'm looking for some help or maybe to 'get some stuff out'. I'm 11 weeks pregnant and am having a really hard time with my partner.

We've been together for 13 years and have an 8 year old son but have had a relationship which is 'rocky' on many levels for a long time - elements of it from the beginning. Since getting pregnant (unplanned but not unwanted) things have been really rough. I just feel emotional all the time and find it very hard to calm myself down and his defensiveness and 'playing the victim' - a big bone of contention in our relationship at the best of times - has moved up notches

Following an enormous row this morning which culminated in me hitting him and him reciprocating I asked him to leave (or rather pushed him out while he tried to resist and even to bring our son into it) and I took our son out. Sat in the cinema trying to think things over and managing to drift off to sleep a few times over Fantastic Mr Fox (I'm permanently exhausted but not sleeping well). Over the day we had various conversations - often quite abusive, culminating in me asking him to stay away and him wanting to 'be there and look after us' - too little too late really seeing as this is a replica of what happened last weekend and on various other occasions since I've been pregnant (the pattern has been going on for years but I have a total absence of emotional brakes at the moment).

I really, really feel lonely - I don't have any contact with my family (a situation that initially came about through my partner and, even though I logically know he was 'right' it's another irrational bone of contention at the moment) and don't feel as though I have any friends; even though I'm 'popular' it is mostly because I'm really good at listening (it's my job so I'm well trained) and being supportive to other people and, on the occasions when I've tried to turn the conversation to problems that I've been having, then it's been very awkward and hasn't gone anywhere so I now really find it impossible to ask people for help. For instance, when I was coming back home yesterday afternoon I saw my neighbour (who is also a friend) but didn't get out of the car until she'd gone because I knew I might well start crying when we spoke and I didn't want to put her in an difficult position (or my son, for that matter). I'd also just got off the phone to my partner because, despite me asking him to stay away, my son had seen him go past on his bike and was asking questions and I really just wanted some time without anymore emotional arousal so I could calm down.

A couple of hours later I phoned him, feeling I was calm enough by then to talk about him coming round to see our son before bed. He was sitting in the neighbour's kitchen and had been for the last couple of hours - apparently, she'd taken her dog out and seen him hanging around (I'd asked him not to but to make alternative arrangements and not ask me to worry about what those were to be).

I can't be responsible for him at the moment and just feel enormously upset. I know I'm finding it virtually impossible to be rational at the moment (hence asking him to stay away) and know that he can't deal with this or just provide me with the consistency of the calm, boring stuff I need at the moment.

So, anyway, after putting my son to bed (he misses his daddy but I can't expose him to any more of this), I ignored a text from the partner saying, in the absence of me telling him what to do, he was staying next door and I went to bed. I was awake after a few hours and lay there just really upset. It's ridiculous: I needed space to calm down and get a perspective with him out of my space yet he's actually the other side of the wall, having bought our neighbours into our situation and complicated it even more. Were I not feeling so emotional and desperate I'm sure I'd find it funny.

I started this as a 'rant' last night and wasn't going to send it but I'm sitting here at 4am feeling totally alone and trapped by my situation and contemplating whether I should be having another child and hating myself for even thinking that but I'm too tired to think straight. I'm also finding it hard to eat so my blood sugars are all over the place (which isn't going to help the emotionality). I just have things whirring about in my head, including lots of things from the past. Hopefully this will help get them out somewhat but I feel stupid and self indulgent even writing this. I know that I've been conditioned by my up-bringing to believe that I'm a total pain and a drain (youngest of 4, both parents constantly said they'd had too many kids) and, even thought I logically know this isn't true it's been carried on into adulthood (during my last pregnancy my emailing of my scan picture was construed as total selfishness by my parents because my brother was going through a hard time [we'd got a loan out to lend him money and he'd made up a load of lies about how it wasn't a loan but an investment in order to justify not paying it back - my parents have always blocked me wanting to talk about it because they 'know the truth', despite my brother being through, and losing, numerous court cases since then to other people he's done similar things to].

I was determined that should I ever have another baby then I'd really focus on me and the baby and being calm to avoid the stress of last time but here I find myself in a totally stressed, incoherent mess. I know that should I be able to sleep properly then that would help - hopefully 'getting this out' can help me get a couple of hours before having to be up for school etc. I've never posted anything like this before - I suppose I'm after getting things off my chest, some support and not feeling so alone . . . any contact or feedback would be a help.

Thanks for listening

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iliketurquoise · 16/11/2009 06:46

when i read your post i can see you are all over the place and your relationship as well.
not good for you, for baby and for your son.
have you considered going to a relate alone or together?
maybe see your gp, maybe he can give you something to calm down.
best wishes

BalloonSlayer · 16/11/2009 06:51

Didn't want to post and run, though have little advice.

at the way you are feeling, some of what you describe reminds me of how I felt when we had our unplanned pregnancy, and DH was not as supportive as I'd hoped in the early stages (moany bugger, all about him etc, but we got through it thankfully).

Do you want him to leave permanently? How would you feel if he never came back?

Karemm · 16/11/2009 14:37

Thank you so much for that - you don't know how lovely it was to get those posts after the day/night I had. God, a real sleep-deprived, all over the place rant. . .

Yes, iliketurquoise, we tried relate years ago. Pretty useless at the time but, having done loads of counseling training (oh the irony) since realise that the lady we saw was just very ineffective as a facilitator. Partner is due to see someone next week, I think I just need to keep him away from me until then, or until I have the capacity to calm myself down/the hormonal thermo-nuclear throttle has come down a few notches. Sleeping should help that, even a couple of hours earlier has made that bit of difference.

It's reassuring to hear a good outcome to a similar situation BalloonSlayer - how did you get through it at the time? At the moment I don't want him around. When I'm 'on it'- upbeat, positive (and reflecting well on him) we're ok, it's when I'm vulnerable or need to be in the passenger seat that we're not and that doesn't help because, even when things are ok I know that it's only a matter of time . . . oh confusing but a bit calmer than 3am this morning . . .

Thank you so much for your interest, it really means a lot

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BalloonSlayer · 16/11/2009 18:00

Hi Karenm, I'm glad you're feeling a bit better.

I think we just muddled through. DH felt that another baby would curtail us all as a family and that the older 2 would lose out as a result. He also worried about finances - funding university etc. I was shocked as I had just started a new job I loved after seven years of tearing-my-hair-out SAHM-ness. However neither of us would consider a termination for a split second, I was actually rather delighted to be pg again and DH knew that it would also be lovely to have another baby.

Trouble was that DH was quite down about it all - sulky, seemed to take "the accident" all out on me. I thought it was 60/40 his fault, he thought it was 60/40 mine! I still think I am right, and of course I am .

I was feeling emotional and shocked and wanted support but instead got this sulky teenager. By the second trimester I was really down, and was referred to a programme for ante-natal depression.

I only had one session with a very nice lady. By then I think I had worked out a lot of it. I could see that DH was entitled to feel how he was feeling and as his wife, I was the only person he could talk to about it - unlike me he does not have a wide circle of friends to tell loads of intimate details to and moan about me to; I have to get it all.

DS2 is 2 now and the light of all our lives, although last night DH was moaning about something he'd like to go to see at the theatre "but we can't with a two year old" which made me want to deliver a lecture but I didn't and just admired my own self-restraint instead .

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