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MY VIOLENT PARTNER STILL TAKING LIBERTIES NOW I'VE MOVED 200 MILES AWAY FROM HIM. PLZ ADSVISE.

38 replies

milkmonster · 15/09/2009 18:48

This is a dilemma and stock replies will be along the lines of, "Grow a pair and tell him NO". But, bear in mind this is the man I've left after 7 years of domestic abuse so I can't press him too much, can't 'stand up for myself', can't argue my point or reason with him, because any of those options will escalate and might involve physical consequences or the police, both of which I've tried to avoid by leaving him.

But I still need a solution to this particular problem today.

He is visiting his baby and toddler and is staying with us. He has driven us to local parks, playbarns, theme parks, etc. and also driven me to Tescos 2 or 3 times for food shopping. He's driven 200 miles to us.

He wants to charge me for his fuel driving here from his home and back, for all the daytrips with the kids and the Tesco food shopping trips.

I wouildntr dream of charging anyone to stay in my home as a guest, but whilst here he is using my electric, heating, hot water and has used up nearly all of my mobile broadband limit for this month. I've also paid for all his food, pints whilst out on day trips, park entry fees and parking, etc, packed lunches and son on.

I realise his being in my home is neglible cost-wise, but because I've paid for everything else, can't that negate the fuel charges, for what were after all, trips for his children to spend quality time with them? He is adding it up to around £90.

I can't refuse outright before you suggest, as he will sit me in front of the PC and do an online bank transfer or if I pretend to forget the password he'll take me to a cashpoint. If I refuse to do those, he will get angry, fuming mad in fact, and I could end up getting very hurt, not to mention the danger to my children.

I can't call the police, as I privately rent in a good neighbourhood and my landlord lives next door, I've already been evicted from 2 previous houses because the landlords witnessed his behaviour, I simply can't go through that again by having police round.

I do have family here, and I can ask them for help, which means asking them to come round whilst I discuss it in front of them, but as soon as they're gone, he'll launch into me. Or they can insist he packs up there and then and leaves, but it will be a grisly scene whilst he takes an hour to do so (he has bought lots of stuff since being here, heavy electrical items that are heavy to carry).

Does anyone have any other ideas of how to get out of paying him without making him angry or causing a scene? I have to be underhanded and careful. Yes, I know I left him to avoid exactly trhis, but I never considered that when he visits his children he's just going to bring all that old life with him..

I know the answer is next time don't let him stay, he can get a hotel, but he won't do that, so it means his children would never see him again.

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MmeLindt · 16/09/2009 07:01

AnyFucker talks sense.

As much as I like Colditz's approach of telling him to fuck the fuck off, you have to protect yourself and your DC.

Get rid of him for the moment, by giving him the money if need be (and if you can afford it) then deal with him through the courts.

Do not answer the phone or texts or emails from him. Do everything via your solicitor.

Your children really do not need this man in their lives. He is manipulating you.

Get your family involved (Thank God, you have a supportive family), get his stuff packed up and if need be delived to his door.

Please act now, he is trying to insinuate himself into your life again. Buying heavy electrical items etc.

If he able to buy a TV (or whatever it was) for your flat, how can he not afford to come and see his own children?

RealityIsNOTDetoxing · 16/09/2009 08:34

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racmac · 16/09/2009 09:04

I agree with everyone else - do anything to get him out of your house NOW

Pay him the money and get a Solicitor quickly

Your children are not better off with him in their lives - they will be picking up on the atmospehere and he is manipulating you

You can do this - you were strong enough to leave you are strong enough to get him out again - do not let him do this to you

mumintroll · 16/09/2009 10:24

No matter what - get in touch with an organisation specializing in helping women in domestic abuse situations. (Women's Aid was mentioned above). I assume there is a certain psychology to abusers, and you need someone helping you through this who understands that psychology and knows how to best deal with it while causing you the least harm. A place like Women's Aid will offer that.

Message board are great for support and informal advice, but for tactical advice about something this serious you should also turn to a professional organisation.

LadyPinkofPinkerton · 16/09/2009 10:43

Would it under the circumstances with his violent past, not be a better thing if his children didn't see him again.

I can't see what they have to gain from having a father like that in their lives. Cut him out completely its the only way you will be free and safe.

FanjolinaJolie · 16/09/2009 16:45

Pay him the money but FGS do not sit and do online banking infront of him, if he watches you typing in your password he'll have future access to your account.

He won't visit his kids unless you pay for his fuel costs???? What kind of father would say this?

WHat kind of role model is he for his own children. The less access the better I would suggest.

Wishing you strength and hoping you post soon so say he's left your property.

MorrisZapp · 16/09/2009 17:16

90 quid is money well spent to get this violent criminal out of your house and away from your children.

Give him it, then do eveything everybody has said above.

He doesn't deserve access to his kids ever again, and your kids deserve protection from him. Cut him from your life and theirs.

Take legal action. Do not let him into your house or life again. Change locks, passwords etc and alert the police that there is a potential for it to kick off.

Good luck.

colditz · 18/09/2009 08:38

Go on then - what happened? YOu've vanished for 3 days - are you still alive?

AnyFucker · 18/09/2009 16:54

irritating isn't it ?

Anniegetyourgun · 18/09/2009 19:16

Let us rather say "worrying".

NormaStanleyFletchachacha · 18/09/2009 19:24
mummytowillow · 18/09/2009 20:05

Agree with AnyFucker, give the t..t the money then tell him to do one when he is back at his home?

Change your locks and contact a solicitor to see where you stand in regards to contact with the children?

queenofdenial2009 · 18/09/2009 20:35

Agree with the above, but have lots of sympathy.

My question is - if he has a history of violence, why not phone the police and get someone from the DV team or an officer round when you tell him to leave.

I was told I could ask the police to be there pre-emptively as it were. It didn't come to that, but knowing that really helped. Saves £90 as well.

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