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I knew he was up to no good. (long)

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Mugonmyforehead · 23/04/2009 12:48

DH is having affair. Was still denying it until I came up with evidence in front of him. Some of the lies he told were just laughable and for whatever reason I chose to believe him. Even now he is still lying and I don't know why because the fact that he IS having an affair is out in the open. He won't give me any details. Not details like what they got up to but who she is, how old she is, when he sees her. He is lying about where she lives despite me having evidence he is lying.

A few weeks ago we had a big meltdown where he didn't said he thought there was no hope for our relationship at all and we ought to split up. That came as a complete shock because we get on so well and never argue. I thought everything was more or less perfect up to that point, as perfect as any marriage can be.

He said he'd lost his feelings for me, that he didn't love me any more and there was no spark. We are going to Relate and have had a couple of sessions there. At Relate I felt it was all a bit of a character assassination and that he was suggesting things were all my fault. The counsellor seemed to be focussing on things that happened years ago that I didn't think were in any way relevant but I thought she must know best.

So I found out about the affair and I said well we're already going to relate and you don't think this is relevant. He said he is 100% committed to sorting out our marriage!. At this point he said having the affair is helping our marriage by making it better, and he seemed to have to intention of stopping seeing her. He says he doesn't want to leave me and be with her, then he says he will stop seeing her.

I've tried pointing out to him that in a new relationship he is going to feel more of a spark than he does in a lengthy marriage but he can't grasp that.

I don't know what to do. I don't know what is true and what isn't. I don't know when he is seeing OW. He says he hasn't told her we are going to relate. I bet he has.

First he said he needed emotional support from the affair, then he said it was all about sex. He said he loved her in a text I found. He hasn't been participating fully in family life for some time but I thought it was work. And as for it being all about sex, I have tried to have more sex with him countless times. I always have to initiate. His idea of initiating is to grab my breasts when I am cooking and then make some comment about never getting sex. I think he might be using a different approach with OW. We do have regular sex and I can just imagine him whining to this woman that he never gets a shag at home

I had recurring thrush a few months ago and when it didn't clear up I started to wonder if it was thrush and I gave him the chance to speak up then, saying I needed to know for my health if he had been with anyone else. Obviously I need to go and get tested. He says he uses condoms but I don't believe him. He doesn't even rememeber that we need to use condoms. I always have to remind him and he is quite daft about things like that.

The worst bit is that I think he went on holiday with her when I had a 2wk old newborn and I think he might have a child with her. I'm still trying to find out about that.

I don't know why I'm writing this. I don't want to tell any of my friends. I want to work this out but really, it's in his court now. He could quite easily say he has stopped seeing her but not.

I'm most shocked by his ability to lie. I never thought he had it in him. I would trust him with my life and he's done this to me.

In a way I feel better know I know it is and affair because I was puzzled at all these things supposedly wrong with the marriage that I didn't know about.

I don't know where to go from here. I need to have a good talk with him but he won't be in until late. I wanted him to take a sickie so we could talk uninterrupted but he was horrified by the very suggestion, fine upstanding man that he is . Suspect OW is at work with him.

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Mugonmyforehead · 27/04/2009 11:29

He's gone. I AM angry, I'm very angry but I'm trying to make sense on here so maybe I don't seem that way. I don't blame myself. I know he's the one in the wrong. It has been hard to go from having what I thought was a great relationship, to trying to save it with the counselling and now to this. Re the counselling I accept there were faults on both sides but I didn't know that. That has nothing to do with the affair. I mean maybe he had the affair because there were problems, I don't know but I'm not responsible for that. There are two issues, the problems in our relationship and the affair.

I don't want you all to think that I'm some sappy creature blaming myself for what he has done because I'm not and I'm f*ing furious with him. I'm also furious with her which I didn't expect.

He's gone. Told him to come back when he has stopped seeing her. Can't see it ever working again but then again I can't make decisions right now because I'm still in a total state of shock really. It hasn't sunk in.

I was going to be away this week but I haven't gone. That's why I didn't want to kick him out until after I got back.

Now I'm stuck here and I can't see a solicitor this week because I've taken the DC out of nursery to go away and I've got nobody to take them. One of them is old enough to follow what I will say to solicitor. I wanted to see a solicitor while I was away.

I have name changed and I don't want to go into any detail here but that is why I didn't want to kick him out until after I had got back. I wanted to see a solicitor before I changed the locks. The locks are special ones and a B&Q one won't fit so it is going to have to be a locksmith.

The only positive thing I have to report is that he seems shocked that I've kicked him out and maybe that will prompt him to have a think.

I don't know what to do about access to the children while I am waiting to see the solicitor. There are legal issues with that that I don't want to go into here but I don't know what to do in the meantime.

I'm feeling down now because I really really needed to get away and now I can't.

I am calling all the shots now. I think that's the main thing for now.

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Cosette · 27/04/2009 11:59

You're doing the right thing, so stay strong.

Why are you changing the locks? The house will be marital property, and if you change the locks, then he has the legal right to break in anyway.

I think you should let him have access to the children, as it's important they maintain their relationship with their father, perhaps agree some time at the weekend for him to take them out somewhere.

Focus on being practical and how you will manage, take it a step at a time - you will get through this. Good Luck.

Mugonmyforehead · 27/04/2009 12:04

I haven't seen the solicitor yet so I don't know anything about the legalities of changing the locks. I won't know anything until I have seen the solicitor. This is my only source of advice at the moment.

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AccioPinotGrigio · 27/04/2009 12:17

I think Cosette is right about the locks and deffo right about access to the children. It's sooo hard but being as reasonable as you can now will pay off in the long run whatever the outcome. Also, the dc's will thank you for it.

FWIW, I am really sorry this is happening to you - he is a schmuck and I am glad he is shocked at being asked to leave, lets hope it's a wake up a call.

Mugonmyforehead · 27/04/2009 13:22

I am insisting on him seeing the children with me there because the day it all came out he didn't see a problem with OW meeting the children and through snooping I've found the OW has been encouraging him to take the kids so God knows what he has been saying to her. I have taken their passports to friend's house.

I saw him over weekend (day) so he could see the children and felt the situation was ridiculous because it wasn't any different from a normal weekend for him apart from the fact that he's not living in the house.

I'm also pissed off because I wanted to go shopping and buy a few things to spruce myself up a bit because I feel frumpy. And now that he's paying for other accommodation we won't be able to keep our heads above water. I've always held off buying lots of things to try to save money and now I'm regretting it now. NOT that I think that has anything to do with it but I just wanted to cheer myself up. I don't have anything that fits. I know that is trivial but it's how I feel.

On the positive side I've lost a few pounds. I have had only a sandwich since thursday.

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Mugonmyforehead · 27/04/2009 13:27

If I petition for divorce and he agrees do I then HAVE to go through with the divorce? Because it is important to me that I don't agree to divorce and therefore it would have to be the contested 5 year route. But I think me petitioning would give him a huge kick up the arse.

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AnnasBananas · 27/04/2009 14:07

Not sure about the divorce question, so bumping for you

HappyWoman · 27/04/2009 14:41

I was advised to go slowly with the divorce and to go for a seperation order first - this sorts out money, childcare and access etc. There is no rush for the divorce and you go at your pace.

Know what you mean about not spending money and then regreting it. I was also advised to keep receipts to show what i needed to live on. Dont go mad but also dont go without either.

Mugonmyforehead · 27/04/2009 15:25

Thank you. I'm here with a full face of make up on because I feel like it. I usually go for the natural look and H always reassured me he liked the natural look but he's going out with one of those orange people

And looking back he's made comments about me being vain which I took as good natured joshing but I feel a bit queasy thinking about him telling this preened orange woman how gorgeous she is and I know he's never called her vain. And I actually think I look quite good apart from the post baby body. I feel like a change of image.

I don't think I've cried yet. Maybe it still hasn't hit me.

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ladylush · 27/04/2009 16:43

Oh love Do try to eat. I know you have no appetite (been there myself) but you need to keep your energy levels up and lack of food will affect your mood too.

I think you've done the right thing asking him to leave. Some good advice re. practical arrangments - finances/childcare etc. Try to put you and the kids first from now on.

Mugonmyforehead · 06/05/2009 14:08

I've just booked an appointment at the GUM clinic. The appointment isn't for weeks.

Waiting for solicitor to call back.

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Mhamai · 06/05/2009 14:28

So sorry you are going through this. Have you managed to eat today? As someone else o the thread said, it's important to keep your energy levels up. Thinking of you x

Mugonmyforehead · 06/05/2009 14:30

I'm hardly eating a thing. I can't keep much down. I wouldn't mind so much but I'm not losing any weight. I know that's not possible but it's true.

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NewLeaseofLife · 06/05/2009 15:12

I lost my appetite when all this went on with me and my h. I managed to eat a banana a day. It was all that kept me going. I had Diohrea (sp) too due to the stress of it all. If you feel weak and unable to eat go and see your doctor. You could try some complan, it has lots of goodness in it.
You could probably get the tests done at your doctors. Most Gum clinics should have a drop/walk in service.

Mugonmyforehead · 06/05/2009 16:03

I want to go to GUM because I don't want it on my medical records. I've got no life assurance and if I apply I will have to declare an HIV test and the insurance co will have to see the negative result so it is just to avoid hassle. At GUM I can have it done under a false name.

I'm so mixed up and I feel I have lost the support of my friends and family because to them the solution is clear and because I'm dilly dallying and trying to get my head round it they are all exasperated.

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StirlingTheStrong · 06/05/2009 16:24

Double check the insurance thing Mug.

I had to go through all the tests and had it done by my GP the day I went to see him. I asked him about any problems that I may have when the tests were on my records and he said that doesn't happen anymore

Mugonmyforehead · 06/05/2009 16:28

It was still the case when I was pregnant quite recently because I refused the HIV test on that basis. I had no idea I might require one.

I still feel quite numb.

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dollius · 06/05/2009 16:54

As I understand it, insurance companies do not have the right to insist on this information from you.

I think (unless the law has been changed) you can legally tick the box saying you have not had a test, even if you have.

The people at the GUM clinic will be able to tell you your rights about this - so why not ring them back to check before you go?

ladylush · 06/05/2009 19:00

Why don't you make h pay for an earlier appt. at the GUM clinic? It's his fault afterall. Not fair that you should be in limbo for weeks on top of all your other worries.

Hope you are eating a bit better

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