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Being evasive about a child's parentage - long

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changednam · 20/04/2009 19:03

I would really welcome the thoughts of others about this situation, as I don't know if I'm over-reacting because of my own experiences or if my reaction is valid.

A close relative has a child and is no longer with the biologicial father..let's call him A. She split up with A and her son, who is now 9, no longer remembers him. A has no contact with the boy, although A's parents and brothers (his uncles) have kept in contact.

She then lived with man B, whom her son called "dad".

That relationship split up, and she is now settled with man C and they have a child of their own. Her first son was quite traumatised by her split with B, and remembers him. However, none of them have any contact with B and the son calls her new partner (C) "dad".

They haven't told the boy who his biological father is, and the child thinks that "dad" means his mother's partner.

We usually don't see them all that frequently, and it's really none of my business.

However, we've been asked to take the son with us on a short holiday, and although the subject is very, very, very unlikely to come up, I would be extremely uncomfortable with being complicit in deceiving the child about his parentage if the situation did arise. His grandmother, the relative's mother, who cares for the children a lot, is also uncomfortable about the situation but has been told firmly by her daughter that there is no need for the son to know until he asks..at this age he does not distinguish between "dad" and "biological dad".

The reason I am uncomfortable is that I saw my own mother very emotionally scarred by being told in the playground when she was about 11 that the woman she thought was her aunt was in fact her sister. This is something my mother talked about to me at length when I was growing up, and she never forgave those around her for what she saw as a deception.

I'd be interested in what others think especially if you have experienced this sort of situation at first hand, either yourself or have a child with similar circumstances. tia.

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maqrollelgaviero · 20/04/2009 20:37

Hi,

I don't have any experience of your particular situation but I would have thought that at 9 the child would have started to think about these things himself as other children he knows will have experienced step parents, bio parents not living with parents etc.

I think in your situation as regards him possibly asking you I would prob tell the mother in advance that I wasn't going to lie if asked, then if he does mention it I'd say that it was best to speak to mummy about it / ask his parents about those sorts of things.

I think they'll struggle to keep it a secret for too much longer tbh.

lilacclaire · 20/04/2009 20:50

I really think you should keep out of this, I can't believe your even getting this involved.
If the child asks you anything (and why would he) just refer him back to his mum.

changednam · 20/04/2009 20:54

Thanks Magrolle - I'd already decided to do what you've suggested - if the subject does come up, then gently say he should ask his mum.

The one hitch is that the relative is a relative of dh's and I've suggested he should say something to her in advance - i.e. if the subject did come up, we would not hide the truth but would say the boy needs to speak to mum. However, dh is an "anything for a quiet life" person and I suspect he won't say anything. If I raise the subject, it would be seen as me being difficult.

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Heated · 20/04/2009 20:54

I can't see how it would arise whilst on holiday. It's not your place to land that bombshell.

hester · 20/04/2009 20:54

I don't believe in lying to children, and I have experience in my own family of the pain that is caused when the child finds out that 'dad' is not their biological father.

But you really have no choice but to be complicit with this. What's the alternative?

HarlotOTara · 20/04/2009 20:55

I don't think it is ever a good idea to lie to children and particularly about something as important as this. It is far easier to accept the truth about something if you have always known than have your world rocked by being told what you thought was true isn't. It feels like such a betrayal of trust

My eldest dd has had very little contact with her biological father (he didn't want to know) but has always known since tiny that she had a father she didn't see. She accepts my DH as her father and he was the daddy she lived with and the other was the daddy who made her. She is 18 now and it has never been a major issue.

I think your relative is storing up trouble for herself and hasn't really thought through the implications of her choices.

Sorry, for some reason I feel quite cross with her.

changednam · 20/04/2009 20:58

I'd like to emphasise that I wouldn't bring the subject up and land a bombshell - you're right, it's not my place and not my business.

However, in a situation like a holiday, when you're with someone for a while, children sometimes do discuss things close to their hearts - I know mine have revealed all sorts of quite personal things to adults they've stayed with or been with.

Because of the experience of my mum, where adults around her all kept a secret and she was angry and damaged about it the rest of her life, I wouldn't want to be a part of that.

As I said, it's very, very unlikely to arise, but it is something on my mind and I would want to act appropriately.

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MuffinBaker · 20/04/2009 21:14

I would talk to his mother and say you will not lie so does she want to have the talk with him.

Heated · 20/04/2009 21:30

My aunt was in a similar-ish position. Her dsd told her autistic teenage son he didn't have a father, he was dead, something he then relayed to my v surprised aunt. My aunt of course did not say anything, but later asked dsd what happens if your son finds out the truth another way? He'll never forgive you. When my aunt next saw him, he announced "Gran, mummy made a mistake. My father isn't dead but we don't see him."

It's a big secret to keep but keep it you must. You can advise, if she listens to you, but not interfere.

2cats2many · 21/04/2009 14:05

All I know is that you have absolutely no right to ignore the wishes of your relative and enlighten this boy on his parentage yourself.

nickschick · 21/04/2009 14:16

I tell you something I'm 34 and didnt know who my father was until I was 17!!! my mum had a succesion of boyfriends who became uncles - 1 of them told me hed adopted me and changed my name - I have had 4 different surnames-the one on my birth certificate(that I didnt even get to see until I was 17 and the registrar had a heck of a time finding it because I didnt know that I was registered with a different surname-one in primary school another in secondary and yet another when I married.

I was never told who my father was ....#

until

I met my dh who immediately said 'I know your dad!!!'

Its totally messed my head up I dont know anything genetically I dont really know 'who' I am ....and as the man 'supposed' to be my father is mixed race (afro carribean descent} I dont even know 'where' I belong......it was the worst ept secret in my hometown everyone but me new imagine getting to 17 and realising this - now I question who I can trust and if someone casually says 'oh I saw your dad' it could be one of many men I have at some point thought of as my Dad .

Its very difficult but I couldnt be part of any such deceit .

darcysotherhalf · 21/04/2009 19:23

best to just refer him back to his mum. yes, she may well be storing up trouble for herself in the future but at 9 i'd say he's still a little too young to understand the machinations of the adult world (with the deceit they involve). it probably won't come up on holiday, in fact i cannot think of any way it would come up in conversation to be brought round to the bombshell. its tough, but he's not your child, and you not only alienate him, but you'd alienate his mother too. it may not be the moral highground, but it is the right highground to take in this situation.

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