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My mum...

33 replies

bellavita · 22/03/2009 14:24

gosh, don't know where to start really. Here goes..

I think she is controlling, no actually I know she is controlling. When I speak to her on the phone or if she is here or I am at her house I feel like I am 5 not 43.

As a child I used to feel suffocated. I would always have to wear my big coat to school or wear woolly tights instead of socks because she said she knew best. I know most of the time us mums do know best, but I was not allowed to make my own choices. I could not go on school trips away for a few days because she thought something was going to happen to me and same for my brother. She was always the frumpy mum waiting at the school gates and since having my brother and me has always been overweight. She cannot understand why I try and watch my weight and why I wear jeans or thongs, or paint my nails/toenails or want to look nice.

My brother and I were at my parents last weekend and he brought up the subject of us always having to be in early when we lived at home. Yes, I know it was because there was a gap between her going out to work and my Dad coming in from work and she wanted to know where we were, but she jumped on me and I had said nothing.

My poor father - I really feel sorry for him. They are both retired, he drives, she doesn't. He wants to go to the local village over 60's club, she doesn't want to and because of this said he can't. He likes to go fishing, but she moans at this.

She never has a good word to say about anyone or anything.

My parents have been here this weekend, all was going well until yesterday afternoon. She said something which I happened to disagree with and said - she jumped down my throat and said something to the effect of she is the parent and I am the child so what she says goes. Luckily, DH stepped in and said that I was allowed to have my own opinion but she was not happy and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife and it was the same this morning before they left. She had a knee operation last year and has to have help to get in and out of the bath, so Dad went up to help her and came back downstairs. We heard her shout for him, so he went upstairs straight away, was gone for quite a while. When he came down he was visibly upset. I asked what she wanted and he said he is not sure, but went absolutely mad at him for not hearing her the first time and that she could have drowned and then in her rage at him smacked him across the face . He said to me he knows he did wrong, but he hit her back as he is at the end of his tether with her agression.

The last time she came she said something which I disagreed with - it was something really trivial but she had a hissy fit with me and said I had no right to disagree.

It is getting to the point where I don't want to speak to her on the phone or even look at her.

I have to phone her twice a week, always on a Tuesday and Saturday. God forbid if I have not phoned by lunchtime on a Tuesday - she starts phoning me wondering what I am doing or where I am, sometimes I have gone out but I think she thinks I need to phone her first and say I am going out will be back and whatever time and will ring her back then!

Sorry if I am rambling, but after last night with her hitting my lovely dad, I am just so angry.

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deanychip · 22/03/2009 16:50

Your mum sounds like mine, mine has attacked my sister for disagreeing with her. Actually my sister was cutting a piece of meat and my mum didnt like the way she was doing it so battered 10 barrels out of my sis, kicking her in the face while she was on the ground...my si was 25 at the time.

She is unreasonable, argumentative, agressive and nasty.

I didnt speak to her for 7 years, it was like a ton lifted from my shoulders.

On egg shells, it is easier to have nothing to do with people like this.

bellavita · 22/03/2009 16:55

oh deany

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GettingaGrip · 22/03/2009 17:01

perhaps this narcissitic rage

is what is going on with your mother?

Her family background certainly makes this a possibility.

GettingaGrip · 22/03/2009 17:04

sorry spelling ...narcissistic

bellavita · 22/03/2009 17:16

GettingaGrip - that is so similar it is scary.

My Grandad was very victorian in his ways (has mellowed an awful lot) and when my mum was school age if she needed help with homework he used to call her stupid and really bring her down.

She would get dressed up to go out on a weekend (she would be about 18) and he would let her do this then just as she was about to go out of the house he would tell her "to get that muck off her face" and she couldn't go.

Funny thing is, when DH and I bought our first house in the April as we were getting married in the June, I could not spend one night in the house with him (he moved in straight away so we could get painting done etc), I had to go home - there would have been hell to pay if I had said I was not coming home. But yet, my mum lived with my dad in the basement of someone elses house as my grandad would not agree for them to get married and she even got the court to summons him (you had to be 21 to get married without permission then).

FWIW my grandad is not my mums biological father. She does not know who he is and never has. My grandma originated from Italy, she got pregnant by a man that ran off. My mum was brought up by her grandma whilst her own mum worked. They then moved to Tripoli and that is how grandma met grandad he was over there in the army. Mum was 6 when she came to this country.

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GettingaGrip · 22/03/2009 17:35

Well the circumstances of her early years sound perfect for the development of narcissism. There are some very good websites about this personality disorder.

Bear in mind though, that it is a 'spectrum', and that there are degrees of affliction.

I grew up with this in my entire family, and every partner I have had has had this.

They are all different.

My father and my sibling have the rages. My mother uses childish tears as a control mechanism.

However, in crucial ways they are all the same. They can never be wrong, they can never admit to being wrong. If crossed they react on a continuum from childishly sulky all the way up to hideously and criminally violent.

Their disorder arises from their attempts to protect themselves from reality, which is often too awful for them to bear. SO they invent another reality when they are small children, and this reality can never be breached, as it means they will not be able to cope. It is a defence mechanism in the brain, but over-done.

Alternatively Ns are created by their parents' idealisation of them as children...over spoiling a child, and never teaching any boundaries.

There are several named types of Ns, but most are a mixture of them all. Other personality disorders co-exist with NPD, such as borderline and histrionic.

If this is your mother , there is sadly nothing that will change her.

hope that helps a little

xxxxx

bellavita · 22/03/2009 17:38

Thank you

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GettingaGrip · 22/03/2009 17:45

No thanks required!

It has been suggested that this PD actually is a cognitive malfunction, so is a part of the person. Treatment is not possible so far.

Certainly with my late father, his cognition was definitely awry. He heard nothing unless he chose to... and then his reaction was always impossible to predict. I never had one actual conversation with him my whole life.

This PD is set when the person is a small child. My last N-partner was already one at 16. Now he is 50 he is a psychopath.

Psychopaths have no empathy for others. neither do Ns.

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