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Could someone please explain to me what just happened here, in this exchange with XP?

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cheerfulvicky · 07/03/2009 13:21

I frequently feel baffled by the arguments/what he calls discussions between me and XP. Bit of background, we are living in his house still, have recently split and I am moving out soon with DS who is 6 months. My older threads talk a bit more about the situation, but basically I feel he has been emotionally abusive, and he disgrees.

Today some forms arrived about the tax credits, end of joint claim etc. All fine. I mention child maintenace as they want proof of anything I am getting from him for Housing Benefit. I say to him that perhaps we could come to a voluntary arrangement, ensuring his tenner a week or so will go to DS and not the gov.

He says: "well it depends on access, doesn't it"

I say "Well, yes, of course. The amounts and so forth depend on access. But the general idea of a voluntary agreement seems a lot nicer, don't you think?"

Him: "Yes but it all depends on access and what you ant to do about that."

'Me: "i've been thinking about it, and I asked on MN. The general rule seems to be little and often, not 1 week on, 1 week off each. Babies need to be with their primary carer"

Him: "There's no reason why we wouldn't be joint promary carers, I'd be happy to do it full time if need be"

Me: (getting worried) "Yes but, I've been his main carer for the first six months of his life."

Him: "I've been around as well though, haven't I?'

Me: "Yes, of course you have. But I've been with him all the time, and you've only been there some of the time."

Him: "So?"

Me: "well, he needs his mum at this age. he needs security and familiarity, and I am the main person who cares for him."

Him: ...

Me: "Anyway, I've been thinking, that the best way is probably to arrange something temporary for now, for the next few weeks, that we are both happy with. And then wait until I am settled in (newtown, 30 miles away) and the emotions have died down a bit, and then talk again. If we can't agree on something then, we'll have to go to a mediator."

Him: "Yeah!" (looks as though he thinks this is likely)

Me: (carefully) "Because I don't think we can agree on anything at the moment, why you are angry with me (he nods) and I'm afraid of you.

Him: (changing manner completely) Oh don't be so ridiculous!

Me: "What?

Him: "What have I ever done to make you afraid of me?!"

Me: "I-"

Him: "That's just so ridiculous!"

Me: "me being afraid of you is ridiculous?"

Him: "yes!"

Me: (slowly, trying to remain calm and not shake) "Well, if I feel afraid of you, that's how I feel. That's my opinion"

Him: "Okay, then I'm afraid of you! I'm terrified of you. And that's my opinion. Can't you see how ridiculous that sounds?!"

Me: "I-"

Him: (getting up suddenly)"Oh just forget it, I'm not talking about this. You just let me know what you want to do,a nd if I have a problem with that then I'll see you in court!"

(comes back in while I am typing this)

"Why don't you phone up the womans refuge, say you are in fear of your life and leave?"

Me: "What??"

Him: "I'm not living under the same roof as you while these accusiations re levelled at me. So either you go or I do. I don't want to live with you anymore!"

Me: "I thought we arranged that I was moving out on the 20th? I don't have anywhere to go until then"

Him: "Then phone up the police, say you are living in fear! Then you can leave. [...] Would you like me to hit you, would that make it better? No its not a threat, more like a suggestion! [...] I'm going, I can't even stand being in the same room as you. It's not the truth, it's just your version of the truth! [...] I'm going, and I don't ever want to be with you again."

Worried he might top himself now. help, please?

OP posts:
MsBeauregarde · 09/03/2009 08:53

Cheerfulvicky, good plan, once you know for sure that you're leaving, it's pointless to argue any more. Just smile vacantly and look forward to your fresh start. Save your energies for thinking about the future! It's lovely to read a thread where OP is actually leaving the controlling partner...

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