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Getting through a thick skull. Potentially very LONG!

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shootfromthehip · 23/02/2009 16:22

Ok, after our DD was born my relationship with DH went way, way downhill. We got sucked into the competitive tiredness thing, he was distant, I was angry. We moved and hoped that things would be better. They weren't. He now commutes 1 1/2 hrs each way to work which makes things long and tiring for him and long and tiring for me. Our families are not involved with us or our kids on a day to day basis and are not local. It's hard. This said, we were keen to have another baby and did 2 yrs ago. Wonderful but difficult. At about the same time our DS was born, my DH got 'remote dial-in' for his work which basically means that he can work on his laptop as though he was in his office and this is were most of our recent problems have come from (don't mean to patronise- thought I should explain).

He was keen to get promoted and this meant that he was prepared to take on the role unpaid until he got made official (MUG I hear you scream and I did warn him...) and he did. But it also meant that he was doing 2 jobs and for that to actually be possible, he started to work at home EVERY night.

For the past 2 yrs I have run our home, raised our children and put up with a tired, crabbit and at times totally unpleasant man. He is stressed out of his head and totally exhausted most of the time.

About 16 mths ago, my Dad died after a long and horrible illness (he was an alcoholic so it was not pretty). I was extremely close to my Dad and was devastated by his death. My Mum fell apart and I got no support from my younger siblings. I had no-one to lean on as my DH was working all of the time and honestly, I felt really betrayed. I needed him and he wasn't there. That sucked rather a lot and so last Sept we nearly split up as all of my anger and frustration at the emotional abandonment I felt I had suffered came to a head (God that sounds a bit dramatic but it was how I felt).

On this holiday (we were away trying to get things sorted out one way or the other), I managed to get him to see my point of view (previously one of our biggest problems had been that he refused to acknowledge that he was doing ANYTHING wrong). He asked me to stick things out with him as workwise things were due to mprove after Christmas. So I have, despite being totally exhausted myself and pretty stressed, I backed off and tried to support him. The more observant among you will have noticed that Christmas has been and gone and unfortunately, nothing has changed. He works til 11pm everynight and tries to get as much time to work at the weekends as possible (subject to me deciding how 'vital' it is as everything seems to be 'vital'). He works for a Bank so just now is not the best of times and I have tried to be patient but it's just really pissing me off.

What brought it all to a head (and prompted this I think) is that he was complaining of not feeling very well and went to the Doc. He's not on death's door but his blood pressure is really high (160/95) and his BMI is 29 (not ridiculous in itself but he has piled a great deal of weight on in the past yr). She asked him to come back in a month as she wants to medicate him if his BP is still as high. DH is 37. DC are nealy 5 and 2. He worked 'til 12am last night and will work like that tonight, tomorrow etc, etc, etc.

I don't know how to help him. I have offered to go back to work in Aug when our DD goes to school so that he can get a less stressful/ busy job with less money but I honestly don't think it will make a difference. He seems to not be able to stop himself (he has shown signs of htis before in other jobs). I am so worried about him and don't know what to do.

Sorry I just needed to get it all out. I don't know if there is an answer here but my life and DH's life are pretty shit just now.

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shootfromthehip · 23/02/2009 16:23

Sorry for all the typos

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sayithowitis · 23/02/2009 16:35

Oh dear, no real advice but I do sympathise with you. Dh also works for a bank and there is a real expectation that they will always do 'over and above' to reach the ridiculous targets that are set. Ok, we/you can put up with that for a while but the pay is c&p, no pay rises for the last 7 years and then to add insult to injury, regular hard working staff like My Dh and yours, are told no bonus this year either whilst the pr*t that caused most of their problems walks away with thousands of £ bonuses because it was 'contractual'. Sorry, rant over. Don't know how to help you but wanted you to know I really do understand where you are coming from.

shootfromthehip · 23/02/2009 16:52

sayit that's the really galling thing, it's not as though we're rolling in it- I have to go private tuition to keep things going and there still never seems to be a difference. I'm just really worried about his health

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Ineedmorechocolatenow · 23/02/2009 16:52

Poor old you. It sounds as if you have shouldered a lot of the burden of your family yourself and have no support. I really feel for you. My husband works long hours, but still manages to do as much as possible to help out when he can.

Is there anyone else who can talk to him and make him realise that he's heading for a stroke or a heart attack at the rate he's going? He needs to put his health and his family first.

Failing that, you need to get a babysitter - try and MAKE him go out with you for an evening so you can talk everything through.

Sorry you're going through this. I hope you can sort it out.

shootfromthehip · 23/02/2009 17:01

oops have to 'do' private tuition.

He just seems incapable of stepping back. I've asked him to talk to his boss about his recent health issues re workload but he won't. It's like masochism. I'm tgorn between wringing his neck and hugging him to death!

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MichaelaS · 24/02/2009 00:37

wow, I really understand this one, I also work in a bank and am well aware of the culture, plus the kick in the teeth that the recent no bonus announcements have been after hours and hours of unpaid overtime each week.

anyway, it sounds to me like he is caught in a cycle, he won't want to cut his hours because he will feel like he's giving up on the promised promotion. Do you know if his immediate colleagues are doing similar hours, or is he one of the worst offenders?

Perhaps you could try to get him to set some boundaries - little steps at first - for example try one night a week where he finishes work and comes home for say 8pm. He could choose the night, but it should be one every working week. That night is for the two of you to talk, enjoy some food together, relax, watch TV or a film - not for housework or a different sort of stress.

Once you are having fun together it will be easier for him to hear your side, and he might realise how stressed out he is and how much he needs some relaxation time. If you can get him to relax his white knuckle grip on his working hours then he might find time occasionally to help around the house or to give you support. Right now I think he's not in a place to give out, as he's so stressed out. I know you are too, but often women are better at knowing the limits of their tolerence and stopping before they have a complete meltdown - more men keep pushing on and end up with a worse situation in the long run.

This is all just my guesswork and i could be completely wrong - so if it doesn't seem to fit just ignore me! I've been in a similar situation myself so i'm just going on how I felt and what might have worked for me.

good luck, and I hope it improves soon.

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