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Discovered husband has been lying for last 3 months- he's done it before and last time, I told him next time would be the last

38 replies

thatwasfun · 13/12/2008 20:08

In the scheme of things his "crime" is not that bad, but the deceit has left me devastated.

He was a smoker when we met. I have never smoked, so can't begin to understand the pull it has. He gave up so we could get married - mainly to save the money to make it possible, but also because the thought of what it does to his health terrifies me. That was 17 years ago.

About 10 years ago, I found out he had been smoking secretly for a few months. I was devastated that he had been deceiving me but also went through a lot of other feelings. I was distraught at the thought he would choose to increase the chances of making me a widow and furious that he had been spending our money in this way.
He was apparently devastated to have upset me so much, gave up again and would never do it again.

Roll on another 6 years to when DS1 was 3yo. DS walked into the kitchen with cigarettes and a lighter he had found in Daddy's rucksack. It was as if the bottom had fallen out of my world that time (prob an over-reaction, but I had DS2 6mo)This time it wasn't just me he was hurting but the boys too. He was spending money we didn't have, risking the possibility that they would be left fatherless, all life cover had been taken for non-smoker so if he did go, they may not pay....but again he had been deceiving me. It was a truly horrible time. He cried and cried and promised never to do it again. I left him with a clear understanding that if he did it would be the end for us.

I really thought he had scared himself that time and never thought it could happen again. Recently I have had some concerns, suspicion of the smell of smoke and he's gone off sex (which happened each time before, I like to think because he was ashamed, but I don't know)When I asked him about it he was mortally offended that I could even suspect him...then this morning when I was tidying up the clothes he'd left on the floor (not normal he'd been for XMAS drinks last night) a lighter fell out of his pocket. He didn't even admit it when I asked him about that - claimed the fags I'd found in his bag (I hadn't even looked) belonged to someone else, but he has now admitted he's been smoking since October.

Now, I know it's an addiction and if he needs help with that, I'll do my best to support him, but I really can't deal with the lying, the fact that he knew that if he did it again it could well break up the family, the money thing again, the risk that the life cover won't pay and a real fear that if he can lie about this I can't trust him on anything.

Generally, I think our marriage has been pretty good. Ups and downs, like you do, but a lot more good than bad and downs have been times when things weren't great, rather than were really bad iyswim. He's a good father (apart from the lies) and I can't split up the family over it, but I feel like the rug's been taken out from under me. Not really looking for advice atm, just trying to order my own thoughts, so thank you for listening, if you got this far.

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OrmIrian · 13/12/2008 22:03

He's a smoker. That is it. He can't give up because you want him to. Only when he wants to.

You insist that he gives up. He can't. So he lies.

What would have been your reaction if he had refused to give up?

Let it go. Unless he has a history of lying, I think you are going to have to soft pedal on this one.

mumof2222222222222222boys · 13/12/2008 22:09

I am going to break with the trend here. It is not re my DH, but my mother smoked. She "gave up" when I was about 10. I always hated it. On the few occasions that I caught her at it, I became seriously upset, yelling that she would die of cancer etc. Well she did.

As a result of my possibly unreasonable hatred of cigarettes and smoking, I would not be able to tolerate smoking in my husband. Fortunately he feels the same way. If however I found out he was a secret smoker, I would go nuts.

What you do about it, not too sure...other people seem to be better placed to provide advice. But, I do feel sympathetic to you unlike some other posters here.

tiredexplorer · 13/12/2008 22:28

I'm like you and don't know one end of a cigarette from the other. DH was a smoker when I met him (didn't know at the time) and very early in the relationship I made it clear that I could never be with a smoker. I gave him a choice: me or the cigarettes - and it was a one shot deal. I'm totally with you. If he ever took it up again he'd be breaking a promise he made of his own free will and that would not be a good omen for us tbh. Our children will not grow up with a smoker in our home, period.

I understand it's an addiction but at the end of the day if he's made a commitment he can't keep, he should be open about it and seek help, not compound it with lies. I can imagine how let down you feel.

FrannyandZooey · 13/12/2008 22:41

god i feel sympathetic - smoking is horrible and being lied to extremely upsetting
but the op is not whiter than white here
it is a complex situation - not b/w - "he lied - he is wrong"

bottom line - you hate smoking that much that you can't tolerate it - you choose a non smoking partner who hates it as much as you do
you choose a smoking partner and you are both going to have to compromise on this
you have changed your feelings on it - you can't make him change
work with him not against him - is his smoking really worth ruining an otherwise good relationship?

MinkyBorage · 13/12/2008 22:45

I don't bloody blame him for lying to you! He's trying to avoid your ridiculous over reaction! You're clearly mad if you can't see how you have forced him in to lying to you. It's you who needs to change, not him.
I hate smoking btw, but fgs, the bottom falling out of your world!!! poor bloke, not surprised he needs a fag!

plantsitter · 13/12/2008 23:03

conversely if you accept he smokes it will make it much easier for him to give up.

I secretly smoked for a while after giving up because my partner asked me to. I HATED lying to him but I felt I had to smoke. And knowing that I really had to give up made me feel panicky about having to - which in turn made it more difficult to give up. You have to feel confident to do it and give yourself proper time otherwise it's not going to happen.

When I finally admitted I'd been lying he was pretty nice. I told him I was going to give up but I couldn't do it right then - instead we agreed a date I felt happy with.

I understand you're upset about the lying but you'll have to be practical unless you really want to leave him over smoking, which frankly seems a waste.

I haven't smoked for over a year, by the way.

controlfreakyhohohohohohoho · 13/12/2008 23:07

get a grip.... honestly.

how are you going to manage if anything really bad happens to you??

ThePregnantMerryYuleWitch · 13/12/2008 23:24

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macdoodle · 14/12/2008 09:00

sorry total overreaction - go on leave him them as sure plenty of women will be glad to take him off your hands

snowleopard · 14/12/2008 21:15

I think this does matter a lot because you're prosing ending your relationship over it - which would be fine, it is entirely your choice... or would be, except that you have DCs. It would be really sad for two little boys' dad to have to move out and leave them because of this impasse. And I agree with others, I think it may be easier for him to give up properly, once he feels he has your real understanding.

snowleopard · 14/12/2008 21:49

proposing sorry

QueenTinselShadow · 14/12/2008 21:56

It is really sad that your actions and over reactions has forced your dh to lie to you.

Cant blame anybody but yourself on this one, really.

sallyhollyberry · 14/12/2008 22:03

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