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I don't know how to deal with this

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BitingMyTongue · 12/12/2008 21:50

Sorry, this may turn out to be long.

Dh and I been together 10 1/2 years. Married 9. 2 dc. Am a regular but the way he's being recently want to keep this annoymous as he knows my regular posting name.

We've had a few problems over the years. We're both very stubborn so arguments tend to get drawn out more than they should. I realised about a year ago that a big part of this was my fault as I wasn't apologising or accepting his apology so, when we disagreed, I tried a new tactic of asking him to sit and talk rather than us standing yelling. This worked well for around 6 months. Hardly any fights as, I felt, we were trying to listen to each other more. Now this has all fallen apart and I just don't know how to react to the way he's behaving.

I feel he's been starting alot of fights with me, about nothing atall, and then when I ask him to talk, to explain to me why he's angry and tell me what he thinks we can do to fix it, he says I'm trying to start a fight, and he can see just where this is going and he won't do this with me.
He says when I talk I lecture him and am condesending. I've said sorry if I sound that way, but apparently even if I say 'we differ in opinion. we both need to compromise' that's lecturing. He then won't listen to anything I try to say, if I try to talk talks over the top of me, or if he agrees to let me talk says I have a time limit- he'll only listen for 30 secs for example. Then he'll get up and walk away from me.

I'm trying not to get into word for word accounts as this would last for pages. There's been a couple of really bad ones recently when he's said some horrible things to me, then the next day says he can't remember anything, so I'm left hurt and upset, but not allowed to show it. He thinks by saying I didn't mean it or I can't remember it, it makes it ok.

His tempers getting worse. He shouts more and more and feels this is ok. I'm not to say anything about the shouting, or disagree with it, because that's me starting a fight.
This is confusing and hurtful, but I don't know how to handle it so I've let it go.

Tonight was out of order though and I can't let this one go. He yelled at our dc, over something really small. dc1 got upset, went upstairs. I said to dh he was being unreasonable and should say sorry, so he yelled at dc1 to get downstairs, and when dc1 said he didn't want to, started counting..he had to be down by 3. I don't feel shouting at someone to get down here now is the start of a real apology. I intervened..went up to dc1 and brought him down, by which time dh had fallen out with dc2. I told dh he was in the wrong (not in front of dc) and he still refused to go to them to say sorry..they had to go to him. They ran upstairs. He refused to say sorry. I asked him if we could talk as we can't disagree about parenting issues.

This apparently was me starting a fight. He knew where this was going and I'm being unreasonable, lecturing and won't listen. This was before I'd even said anything. I got really angry then. Told him I haven't started a fight, he just had, I don't understand him, and I think we need councilling. He laughed, lay down on the sofa and went to sleep!! I asked if this was going to be another conversation he'd forget, he said hopefully. So I told him if he couldnt discuss this like an adult, then tomorrow he can go to his mothers and stay there because I can't take this.

I do love him. For the most part we get on great. And up until recently I would have said he was an amazing dad.

Please, can anyone help me understand him? How do I deal with this?

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BitingMyTongue · 12/12/2008 22:15

Bumping.

Have to sleep now as I'm working in the morning.

Would be grateful for any thoughts, opinions or suggestions.

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hester · 12/12/2008 22:17

Oh, you poor thing. You must be exhausted. I don't quite understand how he can behave so badly when you say he's usually a great dad? Is something going on recently that's stressing him out?

OptimistS · 12/12/2008 22:22

Oh god, this sounds awful! So sorry for you.

I'm afraid I don't have any advice as it sounds as though you've tried everything I would have recommended.

I don't know if it will make you feel better, but FWIW it sounds to me as if something is going on in your DH's life that you are not aware of. Maybe if you can sit it out for a while he'll eventually come round and tell you what it is, but looks like he's not ready to at the moment.

There's also the possibility that he's feeling a bit off balance because your tactics of talking things through that you started 6 months ago. If he's feeling a bit insecure he might be feeling that you being so reasonable makes him feel that he's constantly in the wrong. People don't like feeling like that and can react very negatively. It's not an excuse though.

I'm upset on your behalf at the way he's been with your DC. I'd be furious, but at the same time desperate to shield DC from it and present a united front. Just like you it seems. I don't know what to suggest really, other than keep trying to suggest talking and wait it out hoping that he sees sense eventually. I'd set a time limit though, as you can't be expected to live with this indefinitely.

Bit of a trite suggestion here, but have you tried writing to him? Sometimes it's easier to make yourself clear without coming across as 'lecturing' in a letter.

Sorry, that's no use really is it. But I really sympathise. Poor you.

BitingMyTongue · 12/12/2008 22:41

Thanks.

He does have a stressful job. Middle- management type job that means he has to deal with all the crap landing on him from his manager, and deal with all staff issues aswell.

But the job and the stress levels aren't a new thing. I totally understand if he has a bad day he doesn't need to come home to more stress. I used to work for the same company so I really understand what it can be like.

That's a good idea about writing to him, optimists. I really hope I'm not making him feel he's in the wrong all the time, as he's not. Sometimes the arguments we had were my fault. That's why it seemed to be working when we were talking rather than yelling as we each got our say, adn once I could see it from his viewpoint I could see I was wrong. It did sometimes work the other way too. But now he won't even let it get to the talking stage.

Thanks for listening/reading. It's helped just getting it all down. He's still fast asleep downstairs. Really must close lappy as I'm at work in 7 hours.

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