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My wonderfully 'violent' M.I.L!!!(long)

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agirlandtwoboys · 07/11/2008 00:29

Don't post here anymore unless I need to as I have been shot down in flames too many times now.
Anyway, excuse the 'drivel' but here goes......

Last saturday, me DP and kids went to MIL/FIL for tea.
She is very old fashioned and does my head in at the best of times but I always bite my tongue for DPs sake.
Basically DP is an only child and Goldenballs in her eyes. That is NOT to say that I think ALL only children are such(please, please, please don't take that the wrong way!) When dd was an only child(up to the age of 4, she was also my golden child, but I could see her faults and acknowledge them to others!

MIL does NOT like DD and makes it clear in a very subtle way. sHE is not 'her' grandchild by blood and whilst she insisted on them being called grandma and grandad prior to thomas being born, she has made no effort to refer to her as her 'grandaughter'

MIL also is not keen on DS2 as he is a bit of a monkey and she finds him difficult.

DS1 however is her favourite one and it is perfetly obvious to everyone. he can do no wrong. In her eyes he is a replica of his daddy and she tells me so constantly, which instantly gets my hackles up, as she is therefore saying inadvertenly that dd2 is like me, which I don't mind as he is a bit of an imp with loads of personality and will probably go far.

Short story long eh!!

Anyway, Saturday afternoon in their very small bungalow. Kids have all been fed and are then given a piece( "1" piece!) of paper to draw on. Everything that she has for them to play with is in the loft and our tea is ready!!!
I suggest getting it down but it falls on deaf ears.
DD, nearly 8 draws a beautiful picture. DS1 nearly 4 also starts a picture. DS" nearly 3 is a pain in the arse for some unknown reason.. boredom..!?
NO. DS1 has found a ball and is tormenting the life out of DS2, but very subtley.

Of course the boys start to argue big time and eventually MIL snatches the ball off them both and says, 'right no-one is having it' and puts it on the windowsill.
Great, just what I would have done.

However DS2 is now in tantrum mode and is giving it loads over my knee as I am eating my tea.

DP starts to try to distract him, but eventually I tell him not to bother, that the more he talks to him, the more he wants him to and to just leave him to cry. DP agrees to this, AS DOES MIL.

Within 30 seconds, she has whizzed round to my seat, snatched up his wrist, dragged him across the room, taken him into the lounge and left him in there in the pitch black with the door shut!!!!!!!!

PLEASE someone tell me that that is abuse, she was totally out of order and that what I did next was not wrong.

I met her as she was coming away from the lounge door having closed it behind her.

I just said 'MIL, you can't leave him in a dark room'
I went into the lounge, turned the light on and came out. I couldn't even look at DS2 for fear that I would soften(it isn't nice to witness someone manhandling your child)

In our house, we have an un written rule that whomever puts the child onto the 'naughty' chair/step/room should be the one to get them off/out.
She, after 3 minutes looked like she was going to leave him for the night, so I went.

When I got there he was pissed wet thru(he NEVER wets anymore) dancing around on one leg saying 'I want a wee wee... Grandma hurt my hand... I don't like dark room....I frightened'

I noticed at that point that the curtains were shut, but at 6.pm it was pitch black outside anyway.

Took him into the bathroom for a wee and stripped him down as had no spare clothes for him.

Took him back to where we were eating and he sat on my knee sobbing silently.

She then said, in front of the kids, with both hands on her hips, ' Have I upset you or what???' with attitude - you know?!

At first I said no, and then i thought, well fu.k you lady, I always back down, and say nothing, to keep the peace, but at the end of the day, I am my kids advocate, and if i don't stick up for them, who the fu.k will?.....
so I said, 'well actually, yes you have. I don't like DS2 being left in a dark room, but lets just leave it now' The kids were all there and I didn't want them being witness to any nastiness.

Well i got a load of shit back, 'he wasn't left for a minute', 'it wasn't dark' chunner, chunner, chunner and i just kept saying ' just leave it'.

On one occasion DP also said 'Just leave it Mum'

Eventually she said "well i'm not going to apologise because i don't think it's necessary!!!!"

DD made things 1001% worse cos she kept asking if Grandma had upset me, was i ok, was that tears she could see in my eyes etc..etc!!
We left an hour later having spent a very uncomfortable time watching 'You've been framed'

Dp just thinks she is getting old(70 in Dec) my mum was 68 last week and not like this at all.

I dropped the boys off as usual yesterday afternoon(she always has them on a wed afternoon and i felt that if i didn't take them she would be winning somehow) SHE ACTED LIKE NOTHING HAD HAPPENED. BITCH

I am worried that if she reacted that way when we were there, what does she do when we are not there.

DS2 has told me 3 times since that she hit him. 2 yr olds don't tend to lie, or at least when they do, their story changes. His remains the same.

I feel like i have let him down somewhat,

Where do I go from here?

OP posts:
Squitten · 07/11/2008 00:34

Cripes - what a palava!

My initial thought is that it's not your argument, it's your DP's. If you both agree that they way she disciplines is wrong, he should sit down with her and explain that you both don't want her to do it anymore.

She may want to argue with you but she probably won't argue with him and he should be a buffer between you both.

Tortington · 07/11/2008 00:36

dont take them

Saturn74 · 07/11/2008 00:40

I would have poleaxed her at the point where she "snatched up his wrist, dragged him across the room", tbh.

Your DP is the key.
He needs to tell her that her behaviour was unacceptable.

sleepyeyes · 07/11/2008 00:57

Hi well done in handling the situation so calmly and sticking up for your DS in what must have been an upsetting and intimidating experience.

She sounds very aggressive and seems quite happy to undermine and disrespect you. If you continue let her babysit etc you will be sending the message to your children that hitting/pulling/shoving is how to deal with problems and in time will probably start talking back to you in the manner which they hear there 'grandmother' speak.

2 year olds do occasionally lie and say someone has hit them when they haven't, but usually this story can change many times or even admit they were telling tales. If his story is always the same I personally would believe him.
Have you asked your DD what happens when your not around?

I would agree also if that's what she does in front of you, what is she doing behind your back?

Curtains being closed: That's rather early for them to be closed especially as you weren't in the room and the lights weren't on. Is it possible that she closed them in anticipation of DS2 acting up and that she would give him time out in a darkened room.

nickerless · 07/11/2008 01:00

Mother in law or no mother in law, there is only you to protect your kids. So protect them, all three of them, by staying away, even if it is just for a while. Explain why you are staying away, but only if she asks why.

illgohometotara · 07/11/2008 01:44

What a witch have vile step mil who when lively (verging on wild sometimes but manners usually quite good) ds reached for another piece of cake slapped him in front of me dh dd and extended family its horrible cos you don't want to cause a scene but very upsetting. Think they think its that whole in my day thing but agree with nickerless when you can stay away and if poss they come to your house - so then your house your rules. We didn't say anything as dc gd is lovely and didn't want to upset dh dad.

illgohometotara · 07/11/2008 01:47

But still think I should have spoken up - if it was not family I would have gone wild. (Posting with wine so hope is coherent).

MadamDeathstare · 07/11/2008 02:33

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traceybath · 07/11/2008 06:07

You handled it well but there is no way i'd have left them with her on wednesday afternoon.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 07/11/2008 07:35

Don't think her age has anything to do with it to be hoenst with you - this lady sounds completely and utterly unpleasant and has always been like this. She is showing favouritism towards your eldest son and your other two children will pick up on this (your eldest likely already has, I note she is almost 8). Her attitude will cause you and them immense problems as they become older - favouritism is very damaging to siblings.

Would therefore be not be leaving the children with her for any length of time.

Your partner needs to get a backbone re his Mother and start standing up for you his partner. If he does not you will start to resent him further.

theressomethingaboutmarie · 07/11/2008 13:54

You poor thing and your poor kids. What she did was completely out of order. How DARE she manhandle your lovely children. Your DP needs a rocket up his arse and to stand up for his kids and his partner. Absolutely not on. Good for you for setting a bloody good example for your kids by standing up for them in front of this horrid woman.

theressomethingaboutmarie · 07/11/2008 13:55

P.S. Screw wondering what your MIL thinks. IF she can't deal with your kids in an appropriate way, don't leave them with her at all. She can't treat them right when in your presence so you're probably quite right to consider how she treats them when you're not there.

Bucharest · 07/11/2008 13:58

Agree with all the above...You didn't over-react, she did. And your dp didn't react enough.
Good luck with it all.

quinne · 09/11/2008 20:04

Have just read this. Your poor little boy he must be scared out of his wits being left with someone like her. If it was a child minder you'd sack her instantly and consider reporting her, so why should you make so many allowances for unpaid care? You need to put your kids first in this one, ahead of your DP or yourself and certainly ahead of your MIL.

quinne · 09/11/2008 20:21

Sorry the whole description of pulling the child off your knee like that make me want to write again. Yes it was disrespectful to you but it was so much more than that to your son. If he's not safe when he's being held by you, then where is he safe? If it was me i'd never let her have 1 minute unsupervised again with my DC and I'd tell her that you and DP will do ALL the disciplining even when the DC are in her house with you. If she's unhappy about something they are doing she can tell you and you will decide how when and if the child in question is to be dealt with, not her.

God I don't know how you didn't throw her into the dark room and lock the door!

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