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Lost friendship (it's going to be a long one, just need to get it down)

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milkysallgone · 29/09/2008 12:02

The friend in question was my oldest friend (met when we were 5), and she is the closest friend I have ever had. We shared everything, had our first dcs around the same time etc. She's helped me through some really tough times, and I even met my dh through her dh.

We fell out a couple of years ago; it was not long after I moved further away from her (around 3.5 hrs away). She came to visit with her 2 dcs (3& 8mths) for 5 days. My own dcs were 2 and 6mths at the time. To cut a long story short, it was a very stressful week. My dd developed Chickenpox and spent most of the time being terrified of her ds; my ds still wasn't anywhere near sleeping through and I spent 5 uncomfortable nights in my loft (had given her our room) up and down tending to my ds.

Friend is quite a loud person too, so 3 adults and 4 under 4s under my smallish roof made for quite a frantic environment. Anyway, she returned home and I assumed all was well - apparently not! When we spoke on the phone next she said she'd been really annoyed with my dh and had held her tongue on the last night; how did I put up with him, what's the matter with him etc etc.

I was totally shocked and mortified that she was saying these things and basically apologised, telling her not to take offence to anything dh might have said/done as it wasn't personal, he just finds lots of kids really stressful. She was referring to the 4th night when Dh was feeding 6mth old ds and the others were running around being noisy; dh then slammed the dining room door and was in a bit of a huff.

I told dh about this conversation as I was quite taken aback by it, and upset (big mistake). He was disgusted that she could be so rude about him after we had (we'd thought) welcomed her into our home for the week.

Fast forward over the following weeks when it was both of her dcs birthdays (we'd spoken on the phone in between) And it turns out she'd had birthday parties and not told me/invited me to either . When I texted to ask how birthdays were (after sending cards) I was met with an abrupt text saying roughly " great thanks, shame you couldn't have come over but your dh the misery probably couldn't stand to be in the same room as me".

I was really devestated by this, and didn't reply or get back in touch for a few months. She emailed me a couple of times and I eventually replied telling her I'd been upset by what she'd done. We thrashed it out, but it ended in angry words being written where she made out that dh had been awful to them and that she'd felt victimised by him!!? I apologised if she'd been offended, and suggested that dh had perhaps been a little insensitive to her as a guest but that I thought it was a slight over reaction (try fabrication).

Another year on and we have talked on Facebook every now ann again, but I've never really wanted to make the effort to restart the friendship. I don't care about what she did, what really hurts is the way that our wonderful years of 'sisterhood' have been ruined by all of this. We should have been going through these first years of motherhood together, and I don't even know her second ds .

I actually believe we were drifting away from each other because of small differences which were emerging in our likes/dislikes, the way we parent. I think this was magnified when she came to stay and she didn't like it so took it out on me. She has always been a 'Queen Bee' type, and I feel that this dressing down over dh was a way of putting me in my place, back to the subservient one within the friendship.

My rational mind doesn't really like the person she has become, and doesn't need her in my life, but the emotional side feels bereaved. I genuinely feel as if I've lost a close family member. Like I've been cut adrift from a big sister who was always there to look after me in bad times. I dream of her every now and again, and we are friends again. Last night we hugged and I felt happy and secure, I woke up missing her so much.

I thought we were so close that we accepted each other on family terms (not taking offence to silly things) I know I accepted her warts and all. I just feel so for what I've lost as she was such a big part of my life. Our mutual group of friends too.

You deserve a medal if you've read all of that. Thank you.

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GrabShellDude · 29/09/2008 12:37

That's life sometimes you do just drift apart. In fact, you haven't even just drifted apart have you, she's made it clear she doesn't like your DH. I really can't see how your friendship can continue. Unless you make an effort to see each other without DH being around.

Tbh, I would let it go. With my closest friends it's about acceptance and being supportive of each other through thick and thin.

Really don't think you've got that anymore.

milkysallgone · 29/09/2008 14:01

Thank you for taking the time to read and reply . I suppose it would have been easier if we had just drifted apart. The weird thing is, I know she never had any problems with my dh before. They genuinely got on really well - she introduced us.

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unhappy · 29/09/2008 14:07

Hiya Milky - really feeling your post - I until last year had a best friend - we had been friends for almost 30 years we met when we were both teenagers. She began an affair and would use me as an alibi which would involve in her coming to my house and then leaving to meet her other man. It became a pattern every week I would get a text suggesting she come over on certains days i.e wednesday and saturdays and in the end I just stopped responding to her. I miss her dreadfully some days and others I dont care if I ever see her again. Its very sad as she really was the only person I could talk openly to about everything that happens in my life - I am having a very bad year and could have done with her support but as part of my problem is that my dp is a cheat - her cheating was very difficult to deal with. So I do know who you feel and part of me would love to just let bygones be bygones and call her up but another part of me knows that it will just slip back into the pattern that it was before and I ended up feeling used.

I think from what you have said that you do miss her and perhaps in your circumstances you could perhaps work it out - I wish you all the luck and will put a watch on this thread to see how things turn out -

milkysallgone · 29/09/2008 14:36

Thanks unhappy. I'm sorry that you're going through a similar thing - it's hard isn't it? I guess we could easily start 'talking' again, but it's like 'still loving someone but not really liking them much'.

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milkysallgone · 29/09/2008 14:36

I use far too many inverted commas!

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ImnotMamaGbutsheLovesMe · 29/09/2008 14:39

I really feel for you and totally understand how you feel, but you are looking through rose coloured glasses and sometimes history isn't enough to keep someone close if other things have changed.

How did she expect you to go to parties you weren't invited too?

If you really want to put this to bed, write her a note, remind her of some good times, aske if she still wants to be friends and agree to start again - with ground rules, no criticising your husband.

unhappy · 29/09/2008 14:40

At least you use commas I have no idea where they go. I feel exactly the same way about my ex bf and also my sister but hey thats another long saga - all the best with it. Dont you find it really hard though when you are thinking about something you would normally have just texted/phoned your friend about even if its not a serious issue ie. something you know they would have found funny - god think I might cry better stop!!!

milkysallgone · 29/09/2008 15:38

Thanks, this is really helping me to get my thoughts straight. I think it's hard because it feels as if it's in my hands to potentially do something about it; the problem being that I don't think I want to!

Two questions:

  1. Is it right to treat a best friend as you would close family? In other words, to love them/stay with them unconditionally. Soppy side thinks yes, life is too short to fall out with those you care about. Indignant side thinks no, friendship should be about mutual respect and outlook.

2)I cannot see any way the friendship could ever be the same again - not with dh etc, so is it worth trying to maintain some sort of relationship which is effectively ruined? Like trying to be friends with an ex.

Sorry I know I'm going on about this waay too much when there are people on here with real problems . Feel free to ignore completely.

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ImnotMamaGbutsheLovesMe · 29/09/2008 15:55

Don't be This is a real problem to you and therefore you are entitled to post and want support.

I have lost friends who I have unintentionally upset and wouldn't accept my apologies and part of me things sod 'em but part of me is sad too.

unhappy · 29/09/2008 16:28

milky this is not a daft post - its totally relevant - to you and to me to be honest - I kind of think the same as you - we have both ignored each other except kids birthdays etc and christmas exchange of very brief texts - she has not once in over a year picked up the phone and asked me why - so I tend to think she really cant care too much - does that make me sound like a b.... - dont mean to I know it takes two to make a friendship but I feel like it was her behaviour that ruined it.

If you really think your friendship cant be the same - perhaps like me you will decide to let it go - but its very hard - my mum lost a friend last week (in her 80s) to kinda to be expected but it did make me stop and think for a few minutes hey maybe I should put a stop to this and call her up and she how she is doing but I just couldnt - life is sometimies too short to hold grudges but like you said can things still be the same

milkysallgone · 29/09/2008 16:29

Thnaks

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milkysallgone · 29/09/2008 16:29

Or thanks !

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unhappy · 29/09/2008 16:34

No worries - off home in a minute - will check in on this thread tomorrow

Elf · 29/09/2008 16:35

I like Mama's idea about sending a note, reminding of the good times and asking outright if she wants to renew the friendship and yes, with no criticism of your dh. I realise that first you do have to do some long hard thinking about if you really want to still be friends. I wish you well.

ACtually, thinking aobut it, now you have moved away (does she blame your dh for that), you would only be able to see her if you stay withh her and she with you so that would be difficult wouldn't it. oh dear. good luck again.

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