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Struggling to connect with activist friend

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MissingMyOldFriend · 08/11/2026 22:27

My friend and I have been good friends for circa 20 years. Previously, I would have described her as a warm, non-judgemental person who, while she had her ups and downs, saw the good in life. She comes from a happy, stable family with parents who love her deeply, and who have a lot of financial security. She didn’t always agree with people who had different political positions but she was a very much “live and let live” kind of person.

Over the last five years through her job and partner she’s got more and more into activism. Her job is one that involves advocacy, and in her time off she spends a lot of her time at demonstrations. Through her job and I imagine through her activism as well, she is exposed to a lot of the ugliness in the world. She sees and hears some incredibly upsetting things through her work, and I don’t think it’s particularly surprising that this has made her feel angrier.

What I’m finding increasingly challenging is that her anger and passion for these political causes seem to be bleeding over into every part of her life. Over the last five years it’s become noticeably more difficult to have a conversation with her that doesn’t immediately divert to a political topic. She has developed very strong views on many subjects, and if I don’t agree with them then we end up in a heated conversation which is difficult to extract myself from.

While I understand her position and agree with her on many points, her political views seem to have become very emotional topics. Criticism, or advancing an opinion on a different/more moderate way of approaching the issue often seems to land as if it’s a personal attack, and I get the strong impression that she actively thinks less of me for not throwing everything I have into these issues in the same way that she is doing. She will often make straw man arguments if I disagree on a point: for instance, if I ask her whether she can understand that some women (sexual assault survivors, religious women etc) may feel uncomfortable sharing a changing area with a trans woman, she’ll say: “So you’re happy for trans women to be raped and killed in the men’s then?”. (For the record, no, I’m not). I think she lashes out in frustration, because she dislikes this style of arguing when calmer.

Realistically, I don’t think our political positions differ that much when seen from above. We’re both left wing, believe in a society based on equality and equal rights, believe in doing good in our community, women’s rights, the environment. But she has developed more extreme views on how to tackle all these issues.

Hot button topics that are closer to her heart are:

  • The environment. She’s been active in Extinction Rebellion and possibly Just Stop Oil in the past
  • Palestine
  • Immigration/asylum seekers
  • Trans rights. I’ve never asked but wouldn’t be surprised to discover she knew people in groups like Bash Back

I have much more moderate positions on all these things. I feel particularly strongly that freedom of speech is important, even for people whose opinions we powerfully dislike, and that violent protest is a step too far.

My friend is entitled to have her political views, just as I’m entitled to mine, but I think a key part of being friends with someone is to respect that it’s OK to disagree, and be able to do so amicably. This is something I try hard to do, even when I disagree with some of her arguments, but I don’t feel like it’s often reciprocated. I mention the police? They’re all bastards. I suggest a museum visit? Full of stolen colonial loot. I talk about growing food? Good luck with that when the climate changes and all our crops die.

My friend is very dear to me and we’ve been through a lot together, but I’m struggling to connect with her. I’ve never been unable to maintain a friendship due to political differences, but the life she leads is one that’s become increasingly alien to me, involving Signal chat cells and code names, counter protesting to drown out people whose views she disagrees with, and a very bleak view of the world and the future. Every conversation seems to boil down an us versus them situation - there is no nuance or recognition that people can have good and bad qualities at the same time.

Most of all I’m worried about her. I worry that she sees life as hopeless and full of horrors that need constant fighting, and because it’s impossible for one person to win against all the evil in the world I can see it wearing her down. Likewise sometimes she seems to resent me for suggesting that things aren’t as bad as she thinks. In the UK we live in great luxury compared to most of the world, we have outstanding rights as women compared to even fifty years ago, we live a life free of war and natural disasters. It’s key for my own mental health to be thankful for those things, and I worry that she often can’t see or is unwilling to recognise how good our lives are.

She had a blow up at me (for which she apologised) at the beginning of the year, and afterwards I suggested we do some more positive, hopeful activities together next time and then left the ball in her court (she never replied to this). I’m usually the one to call her.

I now haven’t heard from her in seven months. So, here’s the question: would you try to reconnect with this old friend, who you’ve shared many happy, supportive years with, and who you care for and are worried about? Or would you leave her to make contact and potentially let the friendship die a natural death?

To be clear, I’m not looking for condemnation of her politics - she has a right to hold the views she does even if I might disagree with them. But I’m struggling to see whether there’s hope for our friendship when everything is seen through the lens of political grievance.

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butidid · 08/11/2026 22:32

I would continue to try and keep contact, even if lower level. She does not sound in a good place, it would be healthy for her to hear moderate views from an old friend. It doesn't sound like much fun for you, but I would try and persist, in a limited way, to keep contact going.

bardabunga · 08/11/2026 22:32

The two of you no longer have shared values, and she has changed so much that many of her views are diametrically opposed to yours. Without shared values, how can a friendship continue?

butidid · 08/11/2026 22:35

I fear if all the less polarised people withdraw, she will be left only with the radicals, and go further down the rabbit hole/echo chamber.

I completely agree with you re. respecting and listening to a range of views

Cattyisbatty · 08/11/2026 22:46

I wouldn't reconnect at this point but if she got back in contact I’d not dismiss it.
unf people do get sucked in to these radical ideas even if they are kind. My adult DD is one of them and we just don’t discuss these matters, and when we do it ends in her getting upset.

I appreciate she has her views but she’s in a real bubble with others who have similar views - so they just get entrenched.

CarbonelKitten · 08/11/2026 22:50

I think I would probably leave it for now. Obviously I would engage if she got back in touch but I think she probably doesn't think much of you anyway right now. I have a friend who has gone down the same kind of rabbit hole and I know she looks down on me for my moderate views about everything.

MissingMyOldFriend · 08/11/2026 22:52

bardabunga · 08/11/2026 22:32

The two of you no longer have shared values, and she has changed so much that many of her views are diametrically opposed to yours. Without shared values, how can a friendship continue?

I suppose I still feel that at a broad scale we do have shared values and goals, we just disagree on the best way to achieve them when looking close up. But I agree with you that if both parties don’t feel that way then it’s going to be difficult to maintain that friendship.

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researchers3 · 08/11/2026 22:53

MissingMyOldFriend · 08/11/2026 22:27

My friend and I have been good friends for circa 20 years. Previously, I would have described her as a warm, non-judgemental person who, while she had her ups and downs, saw the good in life. She comes from a happy, stable family with parents who love her deeply, and who have a lot of financial security. She didn’t always agree with people who had different political positions but she was a very much “live and let live” kind of person.

Over the last five years through her job and partner she’s got more and more into activism. Her job is one that involves advocacy, and in her time off she spends a lot of her time at demonstrations. Through her job and I imagine through her activism as well, she is exposed to a lot of the ugliness in the world. She sees and hears some incredibly upsetting things through her work, and I don’t think it’s particularly surprising that this has made her feel angrier.

What I’m finding increasingly challenging is that her anger and passion for these political causes seem to be bleeding over into every part of her life. Over the last five years it’s become noticeably more difficult to have a conversation with her that doesn’t immediately divert to a political topic. She has developed very strong views on many subjects, and if I don’t agree with them then we end up in a heated conversation which is difficult to extract myself from.

While I understand her position and agree with her on many points, her political views seem to have become very emotional topics. Criticism, or advancing an opinion on a different/more moderate way of approaching the issue often seems to land as if it’s a personal attack, and I get the strong impression that she actively thinks less of me for not throwing everything I have into these issues in the same way that she is doing. She will often make straw man arguments if I disagree on a point: for instance, if I ask her whether she can understand that some women (sexual assault survivors, religious women etc) may feel uncomfortable sharing a changing area with a trans woman, she’ll say: “So you’re happy for trans women to be raped and killed in the men’s then?”. (For the record, no, I’m not). I think she lashes out in frustration, because she dislikes this style of arguing when calmer.

Realistically, I don’t think our political positions differ that much when seen from above. We’re both left wing, believe in a society based on equality and equal rights, believe in doing good in our community, women’s rights, the environment. But she has developed more extreme views on how to tackle all these issues.

Hot button topics that are closer to her heart are:

  • The environment. She’s been active in Extinction Rebellion and possibly Just Stop Oil in the past
  • Palestine
  • Immigration/asylum seekers
  • Trans rights. I’ve never asked but wouldn’t be surprised to discover she knew people in groups like Bash Back

I have much more moderate positions on all these things. I feel particularly strongly that freedom of speech is important, even for people whose opinions we powerfully dislike, and that violent protest is a step too far.

My friend is entitled to have her political views, just as I’m entitled to mine, but I think a key part of being friends with someone is to respect that it’s OK to disagree, and be able to do so amicably. This is something I try hard to do, even when I disagree with some of her arguments, but I don’t feel like it’s often reciprocated. I mention the police? They’re all bastards. I suggest a museum visit? Full of stolen colonial loot. I talk about growing food? Good luck with that when the climate changes and all our crops die.

My friend is very dear to me and we’ve been through a lot together, but I’m struggling to connect with her. I’ve never been unable to maintain a friendship due to political differences, but the life she leads is one that’s become increasingly alien to me, involving Signal chat cells and code names, counter protesting to drown out people whose views she disagrees with, and a very bleak view of the world and the future. Every conversation seems to boil down an us versus them situation - there is no nuance or recognition that people can have good and bad qualities at the same time.

Most of all I’m worried about her. I worry that she sees life as hopeless and full of horrors that need constant fighting, and because it’s impossible for one person to win against all the evil in the world I can see it wearing her down. Likewise sometimes she seems to resent me for suggesting that things aren’t as bad as she thinks. In the UK we live in great luxury compared to most of the world, we have outstanding rights as women compared to even fifty years ago, we live a life free of war and natural disasters. It’s key for my own mental health to be thankful for those things, and I worry that she often can’t see or is unwilling to recognise how good our lives are.

She had a blow up at me (for which she apologised) at the beginning of the year, and afterwards I suggested we do some more positive, hopeful activities together next time and then left the ball in her court (she never replied to this). I’m usually the one to call her.

I now haven’t heard from her in seven months. So, here’s the question: would you try to reconnect with this old friend, who you’ve shared many happy, supportive years with, and who you care for and are worried about? Or would you leave her to make contact and potentially let the friendship die a natural death?

To be clear, I’m not looking for condemnation of her politics - she has a right to hold the views she does even if I might disagree with them. But I’m struggling to see whether there’s hope for our friendship when everything is seen through the lens of political grievance.

That sounds tough OP. You sound like a considered person and a thoughtful caring friend. Can you be open with her and say you don't necessarily agree but find the constant politicising difficult?

I'm left too but like to be able to see all sides, even when I don't agree so I take your point. It's wearing to be ranted at though.

She does sound like a good egg though. Maybe this is a phase?

wildersproke · 08/11/2026 22:53

my best friend is like this. I make it work by avoiding these topics

seahorsessky · 08/11/2026 22:54

I'd drop contact with her. It's awful that she's treating you like this. You have teh right to, for example, be upset about someone not getting to see their dying parent because of JSO, or to not agree with her that trans should be in the ladies'. If she thinks the men's toilets are that dangerous, why doesn't she mention the 11 year old boy attacked in the men's?
Having different views is fine, and the old chestnut about not discussing politics/religion socially exists for a reason. If she wants to turn everything into a political session, it's fine for you to seek friends instead of adversaries.

mumandmumber · 08/11/2026 23:14

I feel you are not alone and versions of this scenario are playing out more and more.
Polarisation & an intolerance of differing views is rife.
It’s hard but equally, it’s really
shone a light on some close relationships.
I think leave the ball in her court. If she comes back to you, maybe that’ll be an answer enough for you.

BreadInCaptivity · 08/11/2026 23:15

She actually sounds quite unpleasant to me.

Friendship isn’t about expecting everyone around you to have the same perspectives on life or to think the same way about every issue.

From a personal standpoint, I’ve gained much from having friends from a wide variety of backgrounds and political views.

Being able to listen to the opinions of others - even when you might not always agree - helps strengthen my own critical thinking skills and teaches tolerance, empathy and understanding.

I wouldn’t consider a person a friend who felt the need to aggressively and angrily push their ideals on me and who was unable to respect my views, whilst expecting me to validate theirs.

Activism isn’t a free pass for being rude and judgemental. Nor does it always mean you are right.

Specifically looking at the 3 topics you have listed my initial thoughts that each of these share similarities in the degree of polarisation/toxicity they create - yet they are subjects that (imho) require a hell of a lot of nuanced thinking rather than trite slogans and dogged adherence to a single perspective.

From what you’ve posted she reminds me of people I previously encountered who are more invested in her own “identity” as an activist than the actual issues themselves. People happy to take an extreme position without putting in the work to really understand the issues and their complexities/nuances/competing rights.

I pull away from people like this because you can’t engage, discuss, debate. You can only affirm their views or let yourself get battered by their misplaced self- righteous arrogance.

cryupmykingdom · 08/11/2026 23:26

A lot of the narrative about trans identified men being raped or killed comes from South American statistics - from Brazil, IIRC. It has no relation to the UK whatsoever.

However, that's less relevant here, I guess.

Since, for a person with an 'activist identity', as BreadInCaptivity mentions above, the fact that many of the statistics and arguments they are using are non-starters, probably doesn't matter.

WatermelonSalad1 · 08/11/2026 23:32

She’s ticking all the boxes for paid protester

She’ll be in with some interesting groups

Personally, I wouldn’t resurrect it but she might see sense at some point and then she’ll probably call you if that happens.

Some people make politics their whole identity. Some people make these issues in particular their whole identity. If she’s regularly attending protests for these groups, she’ll be meeting all the same people and hanging out with them.

I couldn’t be friends with someone like that.

zen1 · 08/11/2026 23:45

Even without the complication of her activism, you’ve said that you’re usually the one to call her. It doesn’t sound as if she values your friendship very much and after you left the ball in her court, she’s not reached out to you for 7 months. In this situation, especially in addition to her general unpleasantness towards you for putting forward different viewpoints, I wouldn’t do any more of the running.

If she (eventually) contacts you, you can play it by ear, but I would imagine it’s a drain not being able to talk about anything without her getting emotional or angry or bringing the subject back to her pet causes. How is that a balanced friendship with you feeling you’re treading on eggshells around her?

latetothefisting · 08/11/2026 23:47

I must admit I'm struggling to see why you want to remain friends with her. A shared past is one thing, but the person she is now sounds awful in every way. If you met now, would you be friends? It doesn't sound like it. The mantra friends for a reason, for a season and for life exists for a reason. You don't owe her anything, and she clearly isn't that bothered about your friendship or she would have reached out herself.

If you want to test the waters, maybe a 'Happy Christmas' or Happy New Year message might be a good excuse to contact her again. If you want to expand on it maybe 'HNY - remember in 2008 when we went to that mad party/I was just thinking of 2015 when we froze our butts on the hill waiting for the fireworks' or whatever. See what she comes back with.

Whatdpidoooo · 08/11/2026 23:49

I would let her go. Not all friendships are meant to be for life. Its sad but just as we move on from romances theres nothing wrong with admitting that actually you guys aren't friend material for each other anymore.

I would drop the friendship but not in a brutal way, i just wouldn't bother with her anymore. But if she resurfaced in 5 years having mellowed and/or needing help, I'd be there for her

Nonewshoes · Yesterday 05:17

Is she called Greta?

Lhori · Yesterday 06:16

A good friend of mine is a bit like this. She seems to have lost the ability to think for herself and has become very narrow minded. I have drifted away from her. If we meet up, I can't resist winding her up a bit and no good can come from that.

YRGAM · Yesterday 06:45

My best friend became a bit like this. A lot less extreme than what you describe, but the pivoting of every conversation to some kind of social injustice and the anger bleeding into everyday life sounds very familiar.

I'm sorry for you to be in this position. She's pretty much psychologically radicalised now so I don't think you can do much to change her, but maybe as someone suggested a HNY message might be worth trying.

BadSkiingMum · Yesterday 06:53

I think many people, myself included, have phases when they become more involved in certain causes. When you are caught up in something it can feel momentarily puzzling as to why others are not so engaged or seem unable to understand the seriousness of the situation. But that’s the nature of human behaviour, we like to follow groups. And of course the more you read about it, even if not on social media, the more you think about it. The danger zone is when it becomes your whole life.

I believe that sex matters, a lot, especially for women and for a while I was very interested in the gender critical movement. I still do support it. But I found that I couldn’t think about it constantly and noticed that some leading GC people appear to take up a stance that is quite rigid and feels a bit much for me. I know that any political movement needs those people, but it’s just not me and that’s why I don’t lead one!

But oh what a predictable list of causes she has adopted! I was rather hoping that you might say, for example:

Electoral reform for 16 and 17 year olds
Safeguarding in the CofE and evangelical churches
The safety of dissidents in Hong Kong
The environmental impact of pet ownership

That would be a refreshing change!

MushMonster · Yesterday 07:05

I would not bother to contact her. I would consider the friendship done and dusted.

UniquePinkSwan · Yesterday 07:07

I would avoid her like the plague and tell her exactly why. Being active in Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil would be a huge no no for me

Bikenutz · Yesterday 07:35

This has happened similarly for me, with different individuals being like this over a similar range of left leaning views and over right leaning views. It’s always those topics requiring the most nuanced and educated approach that seem to be flashpoints. One of them was a family member so not someone I could very easily just stop seeing without creating issues with the wider family. I have found that you can distance yourself without completely severing the relationship.

I would view it less as a political disagreement and more as a relationship problem. The loss of nuance, humour, and space to gently disagree seems to be what you’re mourning. After such a long friendship, I’d reach out once more with kindness - maybe ask her if she wants to meet for Christmas drinks. If she doesn’t meet you halfway, I’d let the friendship drift with gratitude for what it was, with perhaps the occasional text checking in.

BloodyRoses · Yesterday 07:44

I wouldn't contact her, but only because these types of people are just too much for me. I'm quietly watching someone on FB blow their life up over the same things you mentioned above and I can't understand risking your marriage and stable life for your dc over these things.

Douglasmummy · Yesterday 07:52

My best friend from school became like this. She had been vegetarian from childhood and was always interested in environmentalism and animal rights but got more and more aggressive about it. shoving leaflets in my face and demanding I 'read them' and starting arguments. She ended up ending the friendship because even though I never ate meat in front of her, I still ate it. She became a member of the ' Just stop oil' of the 90's- the animal liberation front, I distanced myself and I never saw her again.
If she can't respect your opinion then don't spend time indulging hers. You won't change her mind. It's a waste of time. She knows where you are if she wants to get back in touch. History shouldn't bind you to someone forever unless you want it to.