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When is enough, enough!

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lostintranslationtoo · 02/07/2008 15:05

This is my very first post and I am a little nervous and emotional writing this. I have been married for 22 years. Some of these years good and some of these years not so good. My dh has been self employed for all of these years and I have supported him on and off throughout these years. I put my own professional ambitions on hold in order to support and assist him. He has never acknowledged nor appreciated this. His thinking being that this is nothing to either appreciate or acknowledge as it is something that needed to be done for the good of our family. Whilst I agree with this partly, that is it helped our family finacially, the profession that he chose to work in was not one that I enjoyed or found personally satisfying. I helped out because he was having staff problems and because I didn't want to see him distressed and anxious. I wanted to help relieve the burden. I feel betrayed and hurt that he doesn't appreciate this among other things.

This is the tip of the iceberg really .... he hasn't kissed, cuddled, hugged or even made love to me in nearly two years. I really feel lonely and unloved and frankly he makes me feel really ugly. I am posting this into cyber space because I feel it is cathartic and because maybe - just maybe - there is someone out there going through the same thing, Or, maybe someone else can make sense of it. Do I love him still? I don't know anymore. I don't want to hurt my daughter and ending the marriage would certainly do that. But how do I persist with living this empty life? I have tried to talk to him many, many times about this to no avail. He won't see a counsellor with me and he blames tiredness for the lack of intimacy. We haven't slept in the same bedroom for years because he snores like a bear and I have pleaded with him to see the doctor about this yet he refuses. I am always the one hugging him or touching him but he never reciprocates any affection. I am only 43 and feel like I am slowly dying inside. I feel like whatever I do is never enough.

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StressTeddy · 02/07/2008 15:17

Oh darling - your pain is so very obvious in the post. I can offer very little practical advice but could not ignore this
Someone will be along soon who will be able to help more than me

I just wanted you to know that you are not alone on here and that we will support you as much as possible
Your life does sound very miserable at the moment and it does seem as if something must change, you deserve a life too you know
Love to you

littleolwinedrinkerme · 02/07/2008 15:28

Hi just want to echo what what stressteddy said and to send you big hugs. This is clearly not right, you need to decide whether you are 'in love' with him or 'love' him in a caring/brother/sister sort of way - that often answers it for many. You are only 43 and have many many years left to capture the type of relationship you deserve. I am confident someone will be along soon who can give you more advice (on here I mean!) - it is a busy time with school runs so don't forget to 'bump' your message later to bring it back to active conversations - good luck.

StressTeddy · 02/07/2008 16:25

bump

citronella · 02/07/2008 16:47

I agree you are only 43.

I'm so sorry you are going through such a hard time. I won't be able to come back to post for a while but thoughts are:

You have tried to explain to him but sounds like he needs to really understand you are at a crossroads and that you need either his appreciation to be able to move forward or some changes in your lives. Tell him that.

Your daughter might understand how you feel more than you realise? How old is she?

You are still young and deserve a life you enjoy living. Have you friends in RL you can share with?
Do come back here as much as you want.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 02/07/2008 16:57

I'm a little older and a wee bit longer married than you - but only by a couple of years. Do you still work together? It may be that if you're together 24/7 he simply doesn't "see" you any more.

If you do work with him, can you get a different job elsewhere? Start going out of an evening without him, find things that interest you and start living your life again. At best, you'll feel so much better about yourself that he may start to take an interest again - and even if he doesn't you still get to feel better, and it might give you the space to decide whether you want to live the rest of your life like this (maybe as long as you've already lived) or if it'll soon be time to move on.

lostintranslationtoo · 02/07/2008 17:16

Thank you Angels! Your concern and words of wisdom comfort me more than you know. Love to you all.xxx

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MuthaHubbard · 02/07/2008 18:58

I could have written this post a year ago.

I'm ten years younger than you and obviously not with my h as long as you, but I was just as unhappy.

I know it's not very helpful but I reached my limit of trying to put it right and decided to end it. It was the hardest decision I've ever had to make but also the best one for us as, 7 months down the line, we get on better and we are actually both happier.

One of the biggest turning points for me was that I couldn't imagine myself being so lonely and unhappy for another 10/20/30 years as I felt exactly like you - as though I was dying inside.

Am sorry you are going through this. Does he actually realise how bad things are? Would you saying you need space to think give him (and the relationship) the kick up the arse that's needed.

Sorry if that's not very helpful, just wanted you to know you aren't alone x

247 · 02/07/2008 22:11

I too could have written you post LIT. DH and I have no physical relationship, hugs or kisses either and I know exactly what you are going through. Its been this way for best part of 3 or 4 years now and it hurts like hell. In our case it began because DH wanted to leave us but stayed because of DC, they are now 8 and 12. He basically speaks to me as though I could be anyone in the street. Periodically I tell him how sad I feel and I cant go on like this but nothing changes. He provides very well financially but in no way emotionally. Like you I feel so lonely and unloved, i just started seeing a counsellor as I feel so worthless. I have no real advice for you and I so wish I did but I do know that you, I and many others are going through this too, I don't know why, its not right and I wish I could make it better for us all. My marriage vows meant everything to me, to some people I guess it doesnt mean that much.

lostintranslationtoo · 03/07/2008 09:33

I am so touched and overwhelmed by the fact that there are people in the world that don't know me yet sympathise and empathise with my situation. I know that I am not worthless and I know that I am an intelligent woman, worthy of love and definitely deserving of so much more than I am getting - but I cannot leave. My 14 year old would be crushed. I tried to leave once, we were apart for two weeks and my daughter was an emotional wreck. Every one thinks DH is a great guy, and he is. He loves our daughter to death and is a great dad and a hard worker. It's a shame that he doesn't see or won't see what's happening in our marriage. I think that I mourn the man that he could have been. 247, I send you all my best wishes and hope that the universe helps us to sort things out. Stay strong! xx

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citylover · 03/07/2008 11:06

I feel for you and know what your are going through. After my DS1 was born H (now exH) was not really interested in physical affection or sex. We did manage to conceive DS2 and then after that nothing.

LIke you it killed my spirit, made me feel so unattractive, messed with my mind and made me physically ill.

I tried talking to him, asked him to go to Relate. Our marriage deteroriated (other factors too) and ultimately we split in 2006.

Towards the end I would have taken a lover had the opportunity arisn. Would he allow you to do that?

247 · 03/07/2008 18:39

How are you feeling today lostintranslation? Are you able to have good days too when 'the situation' doesnt get you down too too much. I bounce up and down like a yoyo . I think we are very similar in that our DHs are great fathers and providers, not enough though is it. I too mourn the man I married, remember how great it was and could be again. I know my DH for example is totally caught up in his work and that is his world, guess he doesnt need much else except the nanny, housekeeper etc that I have become. Cant advise you what to do, I personally just keep hanging in there and hoping. My DC would be crushed if I made a break. Big Hug.

MuthaHubbard · 03/07/2008 20:25

I let it go on for so long as I too was worried with how my 13 year old would handle things. But, even though he was upset at the time, I reassured him it wasn't his fault and he can also see how much better h and I get on as friends.

Is there anyway you could go to Relate (either alone or together)? Am not suggesting just giving up but you BOTH need to fight for your marriage.

I was the only one fighting whilst his head remained in the sand until it was just too late. But I know I tried my best before splitting.

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