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Advice needed on dealing with ex's abusive new partner

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Evsmum · 02/07/2008 00:44

Hi all. I will do my best to keep this short but I apologise if i dont manage it.

I have a 13mth old girl and my ex left us when she was 11mths. Things were ok between me and him until he met his new partner 4 weeks after he had moved out. We were not married but his name is on her birth cert.

Ever since I was about 3 months pregnant, he has never been interested in either me or our baby. His social life and xbox are his prioritys. He has never wanted to spend any time with her on his own or take her out. Me and my Mum have bought her everything she needs and my ex has never even come home with so much as a packet of choccie buttons for her.

In all honesty, it had been over for a long time before he left us which is probably why we didnt argue when he went. He would come and visit her randomly but did keep up support payments. 2 weeks after he went, I found out I was pregnant again. He didnt show any interest whatsoever but that didnt really bother or suprise me. The week after my little girl's birthday I recieved a call.... EX) I want to come and see her but I dont know if I should. Ive got something to tell you and I dont think youre going to like it. Im seeing someone else and I want to take her away.

It goes without saying but I said no!! I told him he could come and see her as often as he wanted but there was no way I was about to let her go with a virtual stranger (meaning him) and certainly not at all appropriate for her to start being introduced to new partners. The following week, I had a miscarriage (I thing partially because of the immediate change in his personality and the stress which followed over the following weeks). He told me that he didnt want to see her if he couldnt take her away and had stopped giving me any money.

He had bought me a decent car while we were together and he had my little 3 door to get to and from work (although we had not changed the registered names), however before I had even told him that I had miscarried, he came to take it away I couldnt believe that he would be so inconciderate towards our daughter. The front passanger window doesnt even open so the baby is sweating her socks of every time we go out. Eventually after some thought, I called him to say that it might be a good idea if I could meet his new partner with the intention of hopefully creating a positive foundation and that he and I could sit down and try to talk calmly and sort things out. The next thing I know, the new GF is on the phone accusing me of lying about even having been pregnant, threatening that 'They' werent going to give me any support money, 'They' werent going to see her unless 'They' could take her away and that 'They were going to see a solicitor!!! (bear in mind that they had only been together for 2 and a half weeks at this point, as far as he had told me)

The next time I spoke to him, she had told him that I had said, everytime he comes to my house to see her, he and I have been sleeping together. I know there are 2 sides to every story but I didnt even say anything that could have been misunderstood to mean anything remotely like that.

Since then, I have had abusive calls almost everyday from him and her (which the police wont do anything about) not to mention the threats to come to my home. All of the calls have been during the day and unfortuately I recieved the worst call while my daughter was asleep on my lap.

Mutual friends have told me that she is a horrible person and some have already had run-ins with her themselves. She does not have any of her own children yet (though I cant imagine it will be long....). I dont even know my ex anymore and I am so nervous around him and I just dont know what he is capable of now.

He had told me she had a good career orientated job and that she has her own house but I have since found out that she is a part time bar maid and lives in a room above the pub she works in. Also, he has told me that he was fired from his job and hasnt found another one, but I have been told by one of his best friends that he actually quit his job and was working again within a week. It goes without saying that he has not paid any child support and has seen her about for a total of around 6 hours in the past month.

There is nothing I can do as far as he is concerned other that say that he has to bond with our daughter before I will even discuss letting him take her out of my sight, but my question is, Is there anything I can do to prevent my daughter ever having to come even within eyesight of his new partner who has proved herself to be a horrible person. But if not, how does everyone else deal with it?

I truely am not at all jealous. I wish he could have met somebody nice, thats all. Believe it or not, this is the short version but I would be grateful if anyone has any advice at all. Its hard enough dealing with the miscarriage on my own, whilst dealing with ex who has turned into Jekyll and Hyde and keeping it together so none of this rubs off on my little girl.

It doesnt matter what Im going through. My priority is making sure I do the right thing by my daugher. My parents are split up so I know what children of seperation go through and Im trying desperately hard to make sure that my little girl suffers as little hurt as possible. Please Help.....

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wornoutbyarguing · 02/07/2008 07:26

evs mum you poor lady i dont have much advice but you are absolutely right to protect your little one from this nasty pair.
contact csa re child support ,let answering machine pick up all her abusive calls for evidence and see a solicitor re access.

they both sound awful and you dont deserve this.

i have had similar with my sons dad he is now 17 and we moved and made a fresh start nearly 18 years ago and his dad hasnt been in his life at all.

of course you dont want to let this nasty women near your dd.

good luck

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 02/07/2008 08:10

That's good advice. I think you have to try to ignore her and don't answer her calls, anything actually abusive report to the police and contact the CSA about child support. Hopefully they will split up soon x

theSuburbanDryad · 02/07/2008 08:15

Definitely see a solicitor asap, or at least CAB who may be able to advise you (but will probably just tell you to see solicitor!)

You sound like a wonderful mum - so sorry to hear about your mc. You're doing a brilliant job holding it together.

newforold · 02/07/2008 10:07

Your phone provider can bar her number from calling you. You also need ti report her to your phone provider for abusive calls.
You can then go back to the police and insist that your ex's partner is spoken to about her continued harassment, make sure you tell the police that you have had to take action through your phone provider.
They are obliged to speak to her and should at least be giving her a warning about her behaviour.

If your ex ever did take you to court you would be able to insist on a cafcass report and ask that they take into account your ex's partners police record. As long as you keep making complaints against her this will show up and can be used to prevent her having contact with you and little one.

Dd's bio father had a mad ex, i had the same issue with phonecalls, complained to phone provider, went to the police and she ended up being cautioned for harassment. This put a stop to it and cafcass recommended no contact at all when we ended up in court. Her and ex sp;it a few weeks after cafcass barred her from all contact with my little one.

NewlyMarried · 02/07/2008 11:52

Do not have any interactions with the new GF at all. As above, let the answering machine pick up her calls, keep any texts she sends and if she dares come to your home, call the police. You DO NOT need to deal with her AT ALL.

Your miscarriage is none of her business, her opinion on the matter does not count for anything.

Tell your ex you will deal with him and him alone, that you are not here to take abuse from anyone especially some random punter he is humping.....ok, don't say the random punter bit

Tell him you care only about your child and that if he wants to work with you on it, then you are more than happy to help him build a good relationship. But, he can't be letting her down all the time either. He will soon see that you are not the bad guy and the only one left causing problems will be her. Rise above it.

Don't listen to anyone elses gossip about him or his new GF, just be glad u have this guy out of your life.

By the way, if you're in the UK, people who abuse you over the phone can be charged with Misuse of Communications Act so keep as much evidence as you can. Don't let them tell you they can't do anything about it because they can! I have used this in the past for someone who abused me on my mobile answering machine and they got taken to court, fined and now have a criminal record.

Evsmum · 05/07/2008 19:32

Thank you all so much for your advice. The problem I have with the calls is that they all come from his phone. A friend of mine has given me a dictophone now so that I can just let him know that all conversations will be recorded and if he isnt happy with that, he can put everything to me in writing.

I fell like Im having to pre-empt his every move so that Im ready for anything he can throw at me. I am all prepared to make sure he knows that I am not now and never will be willing to have any form of contact from his new partner. I have spoken to a solicitor and she has told me that I am doing everything right which has made me feel much better.

I have to say Im pretty sure he wouldnt have anything to do with my little girl if he thought that none of his friends or family would have an opinion on it. How do I manage the frustration about the whole situation though. I cant get over his attitude towards his own daughter!!! Its like getting a square brick in a round hole....

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