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Would you trust your husband visiting massage parlours regularly and hiding it from you?

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Stargazer84 · Today 06:16

Need help, I’ve been with my husband 7 months, it’s been perfect, and I believe he really loves me and I love him to bits, I’ve done everything to try and make him happy.

He mentioned when we met he sometimes goes for cupping therapy by a Muslim guy, and it’s above board and asked how I would feel if a woman did massages to him and I said it wouldn’t make me feel comfortable, he agreed he wouldn’t allow a man to massage me, a few months after he came hope with cupping marks and said he went to his usual guy, then he’s in the shower and a notification pops up from an Eastern European woman’s name I’ve not heard him mention, I questioned it and he admitted it was a new place, a woman near a site he was working at, I said that’s wasn’t ok to not tell me, he said she was sending him stretches on Watsap because he asked for them, I said that was a bit odd but he showed me the messages.

Months passed and I thought he wasn’t going for anymore massages, our sex life is great and I massage him daily! Massage has always been part of our foreplay and he likes his nipples to be kissed and down below. This week I booked him a surprise massage at a fancy spa for his birthday, then on Thursday I had suspicions when he left site late and sent me a satnav screenshot at a residential address he was driving slowly down, I looked it up and low and behold there was a Polish massage place at a private house, I could smell the oil on him when he came home and confronted him, he freaked out, said I was controlling for accusing him, that night I managed to hack his pin and saw the transactions on his phone, one £50 the one I suspected and one £55 the previous day to a Thai place at a different address where he was was working (he’s a site engineer on the road all day at different sites) I didn’t admit I knew this about the payments I’d seen and tried to give him chance to own up but he just kept lying about it.

That night I got into his iPad and his work watsap and found the whole story, he’s been going regularly to massage places, mainly Thai, some of which also run as ‘hotels’ he swore blind he never would go to backstreet Thai places as they offer happy endings and he said he did that once before he met me and felt disgusted and was only after proper deep tissue massages. I then admitted I had seen it all on his phone and he hit the roof, accused me of being controlling. I’ve since gone on his iPad again after guessing the changed pin and his satnav history, he’s searched or called massage places 27 times in the last 2 months, all different places near the sites he works at, he also showed me multiple payments some of which aren’t even legit names like a woman’s name then ‘beauty’ there was 2 payments to a woman’s name followed by ‘beauty’ registered on company house to a hairdresser in a block of flats in the city centre, I messaged the woman and she said she was a salon but there were massages at a different flat, and I’ve since found out via messaging she is an escort.

I went on his satnav history again and found the address and name of the place, it takes you to a directory of masseuse on a site called ‘deluxe massage’ and there’s pics of beautiful women, one of which looks like a pornstar, in tight dresses showing her rear like a PLT model, it says she does ‘Swedish and relaxation’ massage, I text her but she said to only contact on watsap for full details. She offers happy endings and shower for £120, normal massage is £60, u know he paid £60 after him showing me the payment.

She even sent me his watsap message saying he was after a 30 min sports massage back in feb which I couldn’t believe she went it, he says ‘nothing sexual just sports masssge’ she then sends the sordid prices saying £60 for relaxation massage and £120 for ejaculate where you want and have a shower. He swore blind it was just a massage and she was wearing ‘pyjamas’

I confronted him, he said he’s been to her twice but just for massage, he swore on his daughters life nothing sexual has happened at any of these massage places and he just goes to relax when he’s stressed, he’s spending a small fortune at these places. I told him he has a serious problem he needs to get help with, and kicked him out of my house, he’s gone back to his ex wife’s house where his daughter lives. He’s now blaming me for accusing him and saying I ruined it.

While I was doing the dinner for him and washing his clothes thinking he was working on sites he was also fitting in massages at all these seedy places on his lunch breaks or when finishing work early, some right on my doorstep.

I’m shocked to the core, I don’t know what to do, I’ve not eaten for four days straight, we rang eachother and cried and he asked if I want him to come back and I gave in because I’m weak and needy and he’s been here since and we’ve back and forwarded.

Would anyone put up with this? Could it be innocent? He says if it were sex or extras the payments, but to me £50-£65 is prob enough and we don’t know the massage duration it’s prob 30 min and a HJ or BJ or worse! And there was the one place he’s paid 2 lots of £50 and swore blind they must of charged him twice in error! God I feel so sick and still feel like I don’t want to leave this man! How?!

Update-last night I got all my evidence and confronted him, I asked him 3 questions based on the lies he told me before ‘did you know the escort was a sex worker, did you go after your dad died because you felt so low, did you contact her more than once? He’s swore all of these things to me for days on end, he swore to me there on then on his daughters life that all this was the case; it was a one off innocent mistake because he was distraught and needed a massage and was shocked when he got there and she was in ‘pyjamas’. I calmly told him I had evidence otherwise, I showed him the video she sent me of his phone showing he watsapped her in feb before his dad died, that he knew what she offered because she sent him the full details and even said she didn’t know what a sports masssge was but she can do ‘relaxation massage’ yet he still went along! And that he contacted her feb, july (unfortunately there watsap timer had deleted the July chat! And he also made an outgoing call to her in June, he looked shocked and admitted ok he lied but it was JUST a massage. There’s 3 payments this year £65,£60 and £61.50 and I think they’re all her, one I can link to her address on 1st July; other 2 are random thai sounded names that don’t come up alone, but on both dates he’s also contacted this woman but then again he’s also contacted about 10 different Thai places across the midlands so could be any! And what does it even matter!

I also asked him last night if he ever paid for extras before me and he said yes once he went to a massage place in Derby and payed for a HJ and regretted it. So he’s obviously ok with doing this in these places, so how can I believe he now just keeps his pants on and battles these gorgeous young women off his boner when they are making advances for extra money?

So he’s hid this all from me for 7 months, frequented the most seedy back street Thai massage parlours in the Midlands including one that my friend said is a well known brothel that runs also as a hotel, after saying he would never go to those places and only ever goes to reputable sports masssge places, and put himself in a position where women touch his body and try sell HJs and BJs and probably worse and every times he’s kept on his boxers and said ‘oh no sorry love! I’m married! Just the deep tissue massage please!’ And done this twice monthly! Sometimes 2 times a week! He even had one on a Friday and one on a Monday one week!

Im so broken! I honestly feel like this might kill me, and I’m worried how safe he’s been and if I’m just riddled and my life is over.

He says it was a mistake, won’t happen again, and if I have a big heart I will forgive him.

And this is a man who due to his religion won’t pay 5p a month interest on his savings; but will happy pay £200 a month maybe more to known sex workers.

Please help.

OP posts:
whippersnapper55 · Today 07:22

It's been 7 months and it's been perfect? Sorry OP but you sound deluded! He is obviously going and paying for sexual services on a regular basis - everything is far from perfect! Kick him out of your house now and cut all contact. This is not what a marriage or relationship should be.

Oopstheregoesanotherhouseplant · Today 07:23

Stargazer84 · Today 06:59

The whole relationship, we’re not officially married its an Islamic Nikah, it holds no legal grounds, no right to anything, just a blessing by an Imam in a mosque.

I own my own house, it’s entirely mine, he’s unofficially lived with me in it since end of June

You are in a very strong position. That’s good.

You deserve better.

Ending it will be painful but only for a while. Living with and trying to love someone like this will be anxiety provoking and painful for as long as you are with them, and then you’ll still have the pain of ending it.

Expect him to try every trick in the book to keep you hooked. Then when he realises you mean it, expect him to get nasty. I hope you have some good support. Sending you love and strength.

moderate · Today 07:25

Kick him out. Get an STD test.

PinkWaffleMaker · Today 07:26

somanychristmaslights · Today 07:08

Firstly, seeing someone of the opposite sex for a normal massage e.g cupping, sports massage etc is totally normal. DH sees a female sports therapist and I have no issues with that. So from that point alone YABU.
but it sounds like you have trust issues in your relationship anyway. Following his satnav route, telling him he can’t see women masseuses, going through his phone. That’s not good in a relationship of 7 months anyway.
and sounds like he’s killed the relationship anyway with what he’s done.

Come on, we all know the difference between a normal massage and a place that also functions as a hotel. OP messaged the places her STBXH had been and found one to be an escort, another to offer happy endings for £120. He isn’t just having massages he’s buying sex.

When most people see someone for a massage they see the same person unless they’re away from home. I agree that most people wouldn’t have a problem with someone of a different sex doing the massage although the cultural expectations for OP may be different. This whole situation isn’t just a breakdown of trust. He’s cheating.

Left · Today 07:31

No.

Just get rid!

Stargazer84 · Today 07:33

PinkWaffleMaker · Today 07:26

Come on, we all know the difference between a normal massage and a place that also functions as a hotel. OP messaged the places her STBXH had been and found one to be an escort, another to offer happy endings for £120. He isn’t just having massages he’s buying sex.

When most people see someone for a massage they see the same person unless they’re away from home. I agree that most people wouldn’t have a problem with someone of a different sex doing the massage although the cultural expectations for OP may be different. This whole situation isn’t just a breakdown of trust. He’s cheating.

I would of never had an issue with him having a massage off a woman if he disclosed it rather than hide it from me, and also if it hadn’t of been happening twice monthly as part of his working day without me knowing a thing! Going to a proper place and just being upfront about it is different to months of hidden visits to backstreet Thai places with reviews like ‘best handjob in town’ especially when he swore he only goes to proper sports masssge places. I mean come on, what type reputable masssge place do you have to stipulate that you don’t want sexual extras, the sports therapy places would look gone out! And how desperate are you for a massage that you go to an escort!

and as for snooping; it’s not something I’ve ever done or felt the need to, but if I hadn’t done that I’d be known the wiser and he would still be driving for work visiting construction sites, endlessly calling massages parlours chasing his next happy ending fix! While I’m at home getting his dinner on!

OP posts:
ChiliFiend · Today 07:34

If he wanted a sports massage, he'd get a sports massage. It's not that difficult. No one wants a sports massage and ends up with a prostitute by accident.

You have two options - decide you're ok with him lying and visiting these women, or end it. The option where he stops and you stay together doesn't exist.

Octosmugge · Today 07:35

Stargazer84 · Today 06:59

The whole relationship, we’re not officially married its an Islamic Nikah, it holds no legal grounds, no right to anything, just a blessing by an Imam in a mosque.

I own my own house, it’s entirely mine, he’s unofficially lived with me in it since end of June

Arrrrrgh so he's a cocklodger too? Dig him out now before he burrows his way in and you can't

Lugol · Today 07:35

You know it's not innocent OP.

Please look after yourself and your health and kick this skank out. 💐

Potatoespotaarrrrtos · Today 07:36

He is using sex workers. These are not deep tissue massages. He is an abusive bastard who is now trying to gaslight you and playing the DARVO game.

Get tested for STDs and kick the nasty dirty slime ball out. It will hurt for a while but this man is not safe for you!

Stargazer84 · Today 07:37

ChiliFiend · Today 07:34

If he wanted a sports massage, he'd get a sports massage. It's not that difficult. No one wants a sports massage and ends up with a prostitute by accident.

You have two options - decide you're ok with him lying and visiting these women, or end it. The option where he stops and you stay together doesn't exist.

That’s very true, I think this is an addiction and he will just get better at hiding it, he swears it was a mistake and won’t happen again but it’s not just one mistake! Every call, every search, every message, I mean god knows how many messages he’s sent that he’s deleted speaking to these women, every time he step foot in the door of one of these places that was a mistake, and he had a choice every time and made a moral decision and didn’t think of me once, so it’s not on mistake it’s actually hundreds over 7 months

OP posts:
MyCatIsAnAeroplane · Today 07:40

Right now you have a choice:

Walk away from this, protect the money you’ve got and a possible life where you aren’t treated as a doormat.

Stay, and have this forever.

Stargazer84 · Today 07:42

He’s obviously got two sides to him; the husband who has sex with his wife and its loving and affectionate and the side who has sex that isn’t loving with sex workers.

Im English btw he’s Egyptian been here 8 years has a child with his ex wife

OP posts:
moderate · Today 07:43

One more thing to consider: those payments of £55 or £60 may be visible on the card but the happy endings paid for separately in cash. Except that one time he didn’t have the cash so he put it on his card and said he was charged twice in error.

Comtesse · Today 07:44

Change the locks today. He’s awful.

Lugol · Today 07:44

OP even if it was just once that is once too many.

Potatoespotaarrrrtos · Today 07:47

@Stargazer84 if he stays in your life you are compromising your mental emotional and sexual safety for a man who may claim to love you but clearly does not.

As I said leaving is HARD but staying is worse in this case.

You deserve better.

MyCatIsAnAeroplane · Today 07:48

Stargazer84 · Today 07:42

He’s obviously got two sides to him; the husband who has sex with his wife and its loving and affectionate and the side who has sex that isn’t loving with sex workers.

Im English btw he’s Egyptian been here 8 years has a child with his ex wife

No he doesn’t. Don’t try and separate things. This is all the same man, not “two sides”.

This man is not having “loving” sex with you because he doesn’t love you really. He uses you and he uses sex workers.

HearHareHere · Today 07:50

OP stop trying to work it all out, just bin him off! You’re in an excellent position. Just do it!

Seaoftroubles · Today 07:52

All your instincts were correct OP and the evidence is there.Thank goodness you are not officially married and that it's your own house. He's a liar and his secret lifestyle has probably been going on for years, l imagine his ex wife would have something to say about his habits! Save your sanity and get rid now, he won't change and you will never be able to trust him.

Merrybandofpirates · Today 08:00

In every town, there are dozens of genuine massage therapists who have gone to college, studied anatomy, studied massage and offer proper deep tissue sports massage. These places are very easy to find, very clearly legit businesses, and have no signs of anything else being on offer. Your boyfriend (he is not your husband) has decided not to go to any of these real massage therapists and exclusively goes to Thai parlours, escorts, massage places offering sex, advertising looking like sex workers etc.

Why do you think that is? Why do you think he has never visited a real massage therapist, and only visits sex workers? It isn’t that difficult a question so I’m sure you can figure out why he goes to these places.

Even at the beginning when he asked how you’d feel about a woman massage therapist and he said he wouldn’t let a male therapist touch you… that’s not a normal conversation. Sports massage is really common thing, most married couples aren’t discussing “can a woman massage me” because most people are not visiting sex workers. He brought that up because he knew exactly what he was doing and thought it could throw you off the scent if he pretended to be all open about it.

Your whole marriage is a sham, your boyfriend has been viruses worked every week, sometimes more than once a week. Unfortunately you’ve picked one of those men who see women as objects, and he isn’t even hiding it.

Leave him. Get some self respect and leave him.

geumsun · Today 08:05

He sounds like a total weirdo. Seedy, secretive, odd. It's never going to get better - this is who he is. There are much better men out there - throw this one back.

WeDid2 · Today 08:06

I am sorry this has happened but better you have discovered this now than further down the line.

our family love a good massage as we are all hypermobile - but what hasn’t come up between you two is why is he choosing these types of massage places. There are plenty of ligit only offering therapeutic massages type of places where the therapist has their credentials on the wall and happy endings are NOT an option.

i think the fact he is choosing these private residences / happy ending massages as an option places means he has something going on. He seems to have an obsession with them and I am sorry I can’t see how this is going to resolve for you unless he has therapy.

Wellshellsbells · Today 08:15

You should start a detective agency or join the police! Fair play ! The investigative skills are top notch :)

Blueberrybonanza · Today 08:22

Is he even divorced from his wife? He can have a blessing with you without divorcing her at all, Egyptians can have up to 4 wives if the first one agrees.