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MIL advice

36 replies

SageCloudtrip · 07/07/2026 03:27

NC because you just never know who's watching 👀

At every family event, my MIL has been condescending, cruel, toxic and belittling to me, my DH, my DC and FIL.

Without going into outing details, having to spend time with her has been taking a huge mental toll on me. I have already been a no-show to a few annual get togethers and I'm trying to remove myself, as much as possible, from seeing her at all, where possible.

We have an annual celebration we always invite her to but, due to her behaviour, I want to opt out of inviting her this year. This makes me and DH sad, because FIL is such a nice person and he doesn't deserve to be excluded, but MIL and FIL come as a package (which makes sense) so there is not another option.

Even though she is how she is, she's almost 80 years old, so I don’t want to be mean or have a confrontation. There's no point, in my mind, in making her see how bad her behaviour is because, when confronted, challenged or even gently approached about the things she says and does and how they make others feel, she makes things insanely dramatic and becomes the victim instead of acknowledging that she's the problem.

So, would it be a good idea to tell her we are cancelling this year due to work or some other reason?

If she pushes for details, what’s a polite but firm reason we can give that shuts down any back and forth without sounding cruel? She loves to control things, so I'm sure she will try to suggest alternate dates etc to be "helpful" but it's not happening.

Further to this, I don't know how to not give her false hope that we'll be reinstating this get together next year.

It's over and I just want to be firm but as kind as possible.

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SageCloudtrip · 08/07/2026 09:34

BelieveInCher · 08/07/2026 09:33

The wording you use is really interesting. Why would you need to confront her in this situation? You are blowing this up out of proportion I’m afraid. I’m not saying lead an intervention or confront her or anything of the sort. I’m just saying go about your plans with honesty and when she asks why she’s not invited then tell her it’s because of her behaviour at past events. That’s it. She can kick off as much as she likes but you know you don’t have to listen to it, right?

Anyway, that’s just my advice, I appreciate it might not be the approach you want to take.

TYVM! ❤

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Mullersfruitcorner · 08/07/2026 09:39

SageCloudtrip · 08/07/2026 02:45

That is sage advice if you aren't dealing with a mentally unstable person. Every thing I've read suggests not directly confronting, challenging or addressing her behaviour. That advice is interesting because, before I read it, DH and I tried to talk to her and she had an absolute melt down, dragged FIL into it and started a family war. Won't be approaching it the same way this time or ever!

Absolutely correct @SageCloudtrip you cannot ever confront these types. They are stuck in threenager mode for life.

I would change the date. Celebrate a week earlier or later and then have something else on on the actual date you typically go. Then focus on the clash and repeat the same going forward. Kill it off as a thing.

SageCloudtrip · 08/07/2026 09:40

Mullersfruitcorner · 08/07/2026 09:39

Absolutely correct @SageCloudtrip you cannot ever confront these types. They are stuck in threenager mode for life.

I would change the date. Celebrate a week earlier or later and then have something else on on the actual date you typically go. Then focus on the clash and repeat the same going forward. Kill it off as a thing.

Thank you so much! This sounds like a great strategy!

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Bababear987 · 08/07/2026 09:42

You dont need to confront her surely? Just tell her you aren't having the event or tell her she isnt invited? Or tell her youre inviting other family this year instead?

Dont get drawn in if she starts asking questions, just say thats the decision youve come to and leave it at that.

60degreecycle · 08/07/2026 09:47

So this celebration is essentially your immediate family plus MIL and FIL because everyone else has peeled off over the years because they don't want to be near her? When she brings it up this year, and asks what the plans are for the Annual Family Turnip Throwing Festival or whatever, surely do you not just say, We're not doing it this year Joan.

What happens then? I get it, nobody likes confrontation, but you have to be able to state facts and her not like it, nobody is going to set on fire (as the rest of her family has realised maybe).

Finaly · 08/07/2026 11:59

Mullersfruitcorner · 08/07/2026 09:39

Absolutely correct @SageCloudtrip you cannot ever confront these types. They are stuck in threenager mode for life.

I would change the date. Celebrate a week earlier or later and then have something else on on the actual date you typically go. Then focus on the clash and repeat the same going forward. Kill it off as a thing.

I agree with this approach, we did similar.

In my case we'd always had birthday teas for my kids, party buffet spread with cake and close family and some friends came. The kids grew up, things evolved and we just stopped celebrating their birthdays that way once they got to around 12.

We moved to having a quiet night and a takeaway just for us instead, sometimes we'll go out for a meal or say to family that they're welcome to pop in for tea and cake but no more buffets. Change the event slightly and / or down play it a bit.

nc43214321 · 08/07/2026 20:43

Would imagine FIL Is not completely innocent in this, sounds like he enables this toxic behaviour. What does your husband think about it all?

SageCloudtrip · 09/07/2026 04:02

nc43214321 · 08/07/2026 20:43

Would imagine FIL Is not completely innocent in this, sounds like he enables this toxic behaviour. What does your husband think about it all?

FIL definitely enables it and told us before that he knows what the phrase "coercive control" means because she uses it on him!

DH thinks she is damaged beyond redemption and doesn't see the point in engaging with her at all. He has said on multiple occasions that she's not worth the emotion, time and effort.

It's like a lot of people with these issues, though. They do something to make you think they're not what they are, or you're blowing it out of proportion i.e. say things that make you think they care, do thoughtful things etc but it always comes with a price.

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SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 09/07/2026 04:53

SageCloudtrip · 07/07/2026 04:09

That's such a lovely idea! Unfortunately, FIL isn't exactly mobile but, even if he were, MIL is so controlling, she would make his life hell if he went anywhere without her. For example, DH took him and BIL to a nearby country so he could see where his own father fought in WW2, but was hounded to death by MIL via text for the whole time he was away. When he didn't answer fast enough, MIL text the sons to get a response. She truly is insufferable. Everything has to be about her or she makes everyone else's life a living hell.

Life's too short for this shit

Dh should go out with his dad and brother and make a few memories before he dies.
Fil turns phone off dh and bil just mute her.
Ine of the sons phoens at the end of the day and says recpetion was bad..every one iis fine and had a nice time.
Deal with the fallout after and have a good laugh about what a loon she is

The party.
Don't invite her.
Don't discuss it.
If she raises it say you don't fancy hosting... if she says why did you hold it without me you say ohbit wasnt like that it was impromptu.. maybe next time? Or maybe she could host something? (then if she does have "flu" and dont go)

You CAN disengage.
My grandmother is a raging narc. I was being harassed into 3 x pm visits across london by my mother (who isn't her daughter and dovorced my dad over 20 yrs ago?!?!?)
She hates my mum...my mum knows it.
Still.....My mother is over these doing gopher errands regularly and she's in her 70s....

I have extracted myself and its 1-2 per year for 90 min max. I refused to be drsgged back into it

You need to get a spine.
Dont confront her its a waste of time bur do what you like then across clueless and dumb "sorry you feel like that" "oh thats a shame"

Then carry on as you like....

SageCloudtrip · 09/07/2026 04:57

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 09/07/2026 04:53

Life's too short for this shit

Dh should go out with his dad and brother and make a few memories before he dies.
Fil turns phone off dh and bil just mute her.
Ine of the sons phoens at the end of the day and says recpetion was bad..every one iis fine and had a nice time.
Deal with the fallout after and have a good laugh about what a loon she is

The party.
Don't invite her.
Don't discuss it.
If she raises it say you don't fancy hosting... if she says why did you hold it without me you say ohbit wasnt like that it was impromptu.. maybe next time? Or maybe she could host something? (then if she does have "flu" and dont go)

You CAN disengage.
My grandmother is a raging narc. I was being harassed into 3 x pm visits across london by my mother (who isn't her daughter and dovorced my dad over 20 yrs ago?!?!?)
She hates my mum...my mum knows it.
Still.....My mother is over these doing gopher errands regularly and she's in her 70s....

I have extracted myself and its 1-2 per year for 90 min max. I refused to be drsgged back into it

You need to get a spine.
Dont confront her its a waste of time bur do what you like then across clueless and dumb "sorry you feel like that" "oh thats a shame"

Then carry on as you like....

Edited

Thanks, I agreed with you until the "spine" comment. I have quite the backbone, hence why I've allowed this to go on and ignore it for so long by choice, but I've reached my tolerance threshold and is why I'm now seeking to end it.

How this is handled affects more than just myself. It takes a lot of bravery and emotional intellect to consider other people over just self, IMO.

Thanks for your advice up until that point!

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Katflapkit · Yesterday 10:30

I would go on with your plan and date but just not mention it to her. Not a problem if you are avoiding her. Tell your DH to be vague .... Haven't decided yet, not sure if we are still doing it, we've been so busy with the kids etc.

If she is persistent and VERY near of after the time I would say 'We are doing/did it differently this year, we want/wanted to see my extended family (the ones she doesn't want invited) and we know you don't like the big groups/certain members of my family but it's their turn this year.'

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