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am I dealing with a a narcissistic mother? and what on earth do I do?

37 replies

Lechatbrun · 05/07/2026 19:19

I'm feeling completely stuck and could really do with some outside perspective.
Apologies for the rather long post - My mother has always been difficult, but over the last few years, as my dad's health has deteriorated, she has become incredibly angry, controlling and cruel.
I remember being told as a child that she “loves me but doesn’t like me”. During GCSEs and A levels I was told that “we don’t accept Bs in this house”. Luckily I was quite a high achiever academically and with extra curriculars so managed to keep her quite happy. If we went out for a meal my mother would always complain about something – “the fish is too greasy”, or” the vegetables are undercooked”. She didn’t see the point of eating out as she could cook better at home. When I started working and enjoying having some disposable income I was regularly criticised for spending too much on clothes, eating out, etc. (I still don’t think I did as I always was able to save the majority of my paycheck). However, I think things really changed when I married my partner. From the beginning my mother made it clear that they weren’t accepted as part of the family. I genuinely don't know why. My partner is kind, intelligent and a wonderful person. Even on the day they were burying their own mother, my mother made a point of telling me they would never be part of the family. On our wedding day she screamed at me that I was making a huge mistake. We've now been happily married for 10 years with two children.
Five years ago we moved to the other side of the country for my partners’ job. My mother screamed at me for days about how selfish I was and how she must be a terrible mother for me to move away from her (about 150 miles for reference). Despite coming back to see them every couple of months (sometimes more) it was never enough. Last year we decided to move back for schools, jobs and infrastructure. Being closer to my parents was also a large part of this. I loved living there but I never truly felt settled and was happy to move back.
Financially it's been a huge sacrifice. We've sold a much larger house and are buying one that's half the size for twice the money. We're currently renting a tiny two-bed terrace with two energetic children while we wait to move. It's stressful.
I am constantly compared to other people’s children negatively, eg you never take me out for lunch. If shes asked out for lunch she doesn’t want to go or behaves badly. She tells me about the amazing holidays, cars and houses her friends children have, but if I spend any money I am told about how much money I waste. I don’t tell her about anything we do or buy because I know I will be criticised.
My mother seems to expect me to drop everything whenever she wants something. We both work full time but she wants me over multiple times a week to sort problems or organise whatever she needs. I try to keep this to once weekly with me and my partner goes over for a coffee once a week. I’m not a handyman but I will be unblocking gutters, repairing dishwashers, fixing leaking pipes, putting up blinds and curtains, painting bedrooms and taking them to medical appointments. If I say no she either gets a cheap handyman or patient transport but I am blamed for it. I am terrified if I get something wrong as I will get screamed at or she will start crying that her life is so hard. then ignored until she either decides she needs something else. She also expects my partner to do things for them (mainly ferrying to appointments) which my partner is happy to do. But my mother will regularly cancel last minute leaving them unable to organise their day as a control tactic.
A recent example was Father's Day. I sent my dad a card, as I always do, but I didn't visit. We had a rather busy day (got up early for the summer solstice, then went to a football tournament for our youngest). I rang in the morning to talk to my dad. But I've never visited on Father's Day - it's never been a thing in our family - I was due to spend the Monday with them because I was taking my dad to a medical appointment. When I called I got a torrent of abuse about what a terrible child I was, followed by several days of silence. The silence only ended because they needed me to do something.
A few days later my mother announced we were no longer invited to theirs for their wedding anniversary. We hadn't been particularly looking forward to it, but we were going to make the effort because they're my parents. Then she uninvited us from her birthday too. The day before her birthday I dropped a card and present on the doorstep. I didn't knock because, frankly, I didn't want another confrontation. She then texted me saying I was spiteful and had ruined her birthday.
Every time she behaves like this it affects me far more than it should. I end up anxious and on edge, and I hate admitting this, but I become snappy with my partner and my children. They don't deserve that. I've had therapy and I am on antidepressants, but I still seem to fall into the same emotional spiral whenever my mother lashes out.
Despite all of this, my parents have offered us money towards our house purchase as they do realise how far our own money goes here - somewhere between 5-10% of the purchase price. My dad did have a good job when I was growing up and they lived very frugally so have managed to amass enough to put them in the top 1% of wealth in the UK. I don’t begrudge them their money and I would like them to spend as much as they need on care. But the reality is that we do not have the same standard of living since moving back. I'm terrified that accepting any more money means my mother will feel even more entitled to control me.
Has anyone dealt with anything similar? Does this sound like narcissistic behaviour, or am I missing something? More importantly, how do you set boundaries with someone who reacts to every boundary with anger, guilt-tripping and silent treatment? And would you walk away from the financial help, even if you ended up helping them anyway?
I do not feel able to go no contact despite therapists suggesting it. I do try to grey rock as much as possible but I find this still takes an emotional toll and I am exhausted by it. She is currently not talking to us and my partner is for once struggling to find patience.

OP posts:
GatherlyGal · 06/07/2026 08:48

She sounds truly awful OP. In terms of your question "what on earth do I so?" the answer is nothing. There is nothing to be done about her. She will never change and never accept her behaviour as wrong or unreasonable in any way.

The only thing you can change is you and how you behave and react to her. It's up to you whether you continue to take her money and it sounds like she will continue to be awful either way.

I suggest some distance (emotional if not physical) going back for more and trying to do what she wants to make her treat you differently is a total waste of your time and energy.

Have some clear boundaries and stick to them. See her occasionally if you like but leave the minute she says anything awful. Or, cut her off and never speak to her again. Either would be perfectly reasonable of you in the circumstances. The only thing you shouldn't do is carry on as you are expecting a different outcome. It will never come.

Mycatmax · 06/07/2026 08:51

HurrahforHollywood · 06/07/2026 08:38

No decent therapist would ever advise no contact. The bad ones will, and the fallout is horrendous for many families.

Absolute bollocks. Those of us who have experienced a lifetime of horrendous abuse since childhood know how wrong you are.

No, NC isn’t always the answer, but for some of us it has actually saved our lives.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 06/07/2026 08:56

Boundaries do not work on narcissists and only really work in functional relationships. The narcissist will indeed use the boundary against the person applying it. Op needs to withdraw totally from her parents entirely rather than use a tool that is not going to work.

mumonthehill · 06/07/2026 09:02

The minute you realise whatever you do will be twisted into you being wrong is the time to step away. My dm became very much the same so I would ask her out for lunch and she would say no, then I would be told I never included her in anything. I never knew what the right thing to do or say was so I just stopped trying. I am polite but do not go over and above. The reality is you can never win or get it right, ever. Protecting yourself is vital.

TryNotToLaugh · 06/07/2026 09:36

She is currently not talking to us

Not trying to be flippant but I’d take that as a win, and I’d be asking yourself why you don’t see it this way.

The fact that you are considering taking their financial help is interesting. Is a future inheritance influencing your decisions, do you think?

eta I don’t mean this (re inheritance) in a snotty way. It’s a genuine and understandable factor, particularly as you have children. But if it is a factor, I think it’s more helpful to acknowledge it to yourself so you can clarify your thinking.

Narcparentsurvivor · 06/07/2026 09:46

My family of origin pulled similar stunts, @Lechatbrun I took moved back nearer home as was getting a narrative of failing health etc etc.
It took 12 years of psychological treatment for me to be in a place to finally go non-contact with them. I think probably 6 years were low contact where I minimised seeing them, made sure it was in a public place and so on.
Only you will know if you can go low or non contact. But please look to protect your wee family as much as you can from your mother's abusive and controlling behaviour.
Have a read too of the Stately Homes thread on here. Lots of peer support and shared experiences there. It helped me.

Lechatbrun · 06/07/2026 10:26

Just wanted to say thankyou to everyone who has posted. I really appreciate your responses and they have really helped confirm my own thoughts and given me a lot to think about.

Many have said don’t accept the money and I know they are right. If I’m being totally honest with myself, I am being greedy in wanting to accept some money as it will allow us to stay in the area we are renting and have a house that is big enough for us and the children in a safe area. I try to justify it to myself that it will all go to the taxman anyway, they will never spend it, and it’s literally a drop in the ocean to them. It also feels like compensation for the treatment. But I do know you are right.

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HurrahforHollywood · 06/07/2026 10:29

Lechatbrun · 06/07/2026 10:26

Just wanted to say thankyou to everyone who has posted. I really appreciate your responses and they have really helped confirm my own thoughts and given me a lot to think about.

Many have said don’t accept the money and I know they are right. If I’m being totally honest with myself, I am being greedy in wanting to accept some money as it will allow us to stay in the area we are renting and have a house that is big enough for us and the children in a safe area. I try to justify it to myself that it will all go to the taxman anyway, they will never spend it, and it’s literally a drop in the ocean to them. It also feels like compensation for the treatment. But I do know you are right.

I'm in that position with my mother . I can't stand her and she's always been a terrible mother. She does give us some money once a year , but has never given presents at any other time. I accept the money because we you say it's compensation for the shit treatment all my life. It does keep you beholden though and if you can do without it I would.

MaximumLeeway · 06/07/2026 10:31

You have nothing to work with here. She is abusive and unhinged.

And yet you are the one being blamed and made to feel responsible. Think about that. You have been trained from birth to think not only is this dynamic normal, but somehow your fault and your responsibility to fix.

There is every expectation on you to change and bend around her, and zero expectation or responsibility on her to do any of it.

She chose to have children (you) and yet somehow she is the victim of her own choice? I think not.

OP it is very difficult to see at the moment just how bad things are. In time I hope you will get there. It takes courage and will be more painful than anything you have ever gone through before but life on the other side can be better than you ever dreamed of.

You owe this woman nothing, and you deserve to live a happy and fulfilled life where you do not have people criticizing and abusing you like this, ever again. You can make the abuse stop, and break the cycle for your own DC. Go LC and enjoy the space and freedom to be happy.

AcquadiP · 06/07/2026 10:59

HurrahforHollywood · 06/07/2026 08:38

No decent therapist would ever advise no contact. The bad ones will, and the fallout is horrendous for many families.

Horseshit. Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD) is common in adult children of narcisstic personality disordered parents. This, it goes without saying, is a very serious MH condition which can lead to suicide. When limited contact and grey rock fail to be effective tactics, experts such as Pete Walker recommend no contact as a means of self-preservation.
As for the family 'fall out', the parents and their enablers - siblings, cousins, aunts, uncles - have knowlingly spent decades abusing and undermining one chosen member of the family; or simply turning a blind eye. When that family member chooses to walk away for good, the family unit undergoes a frantic restructure with each of the enablers hoping and praying they won't be the new victim. None of this is the fault of the original target, nor should it be their concern.

LeavesOnTrees · 07/07/2026 13:28

I am your partner in this scenaio, with a DH who has a narcissist father.

You admit to snapping at your wife, this and the general dysfunction is what is slowly destroying our marriage.

Whatever, you do, do not let it harm your wife and children.

My DH is in compete denial about everything, at least you recognise what's going on, are asking questions and getting help.

LindorDoubleChoc · 07/07/2026 14:24

Narcissism is ridiculously over-diagnosed.

Your mother just sounds like a not very nice person. Have as little to do with her as possible. It's hard but you can do this. If she screams at you and gives torrents of abuse, hang up or leave. You are an adult - you don't have to take any sort of abusive behaviour just because she is your mother.

Can you nurture a more private relationship with your Dad? Even if it's just phone calls.

It doesn't really matter if your mother's personality would be classified one way or any other by the medics. She is awful and you don't have to spend time with her if you choose not to.

When she rings and says she wants you to do something ... say no. Say you never get any thanks for what you do, and you aren't going to accept the yelling, screaming and blaming any more. Cut contact, don't answer the phone, don't call her, don't send presents. Be strong.

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