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Looking for people who understand narcissistic abuse in a family business setting

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IngridBirdman · 05/05/2026 19:58

Can I get a reality check please?

I work with my family, in a family business. Get on fine with everyone, good team, but my brother - the boss - is a real problem and I believe what is going on is a sustained pattern of narcissistic abuse - but half of me also thinks I am mad and imagining it.

He presents as charming, a bit vulnerable and generous to the outside world and in his own mind. If any of you met him, you'd probably think he was sweet.

Things he does to everyone:

  • He consistently minimises and rewrites contributions while taking credit for results others deliver.
  • He chooses favourite people / people in his life and hires them, massively overpays them / involves them in things way beyond their role and expertise because they admire him.
  • He creates business chaos by not listening to what people say, then expects them to absorb the fallout with overtime and so on.
  • He seems to have a women-problem and tends to exclude them from relevant work conversations.
  • He manipulates everyone, all the time, to get what he wants and will just change tactics if needed. Nothing gets in his way!

Things he seems to specifically do to me:

  • He makes promises in writing and breaks them repeatedly.
  • He financially exploits me, hugely underpaying me vs others and implying I should be grateful.
  • He gaslights - denying documented events and rewriting history to suit his narrative.
  • He uses other family members to apply guilt or pressure to me.
  • He alternates between warmth and cruelty in a way that has made me physically ill because I feel like I am chasing approval.
  • He exploits loyalty and feels entitled to it but gives none back.

If I attempt to confront him or push back...

  • He attacks, deflects and positions himself as the victim.
  • He diminishes me and tells me I am nothing / not really a good person or not good at my job
  • He talks behind my back to colleagues or family to make me look crazy or defensive.
  • He blames me for things he himself did.
  • He threatens me with various things (like losing my job)

And through all this, he sort of plays the innocent with the rest of the family and gets away with it, because I absorb it quietly.

Recently I decided I had had enough and walked out. Since then he has done everything possible to hurt me.

  • He denies he did anything at all wrong and has positioned me as having a tantrum.
  • He has used other family members to beg me to come back with various offers.
  • He has contacted me to tell me the company will go out of business and implying it is my fault.

We have another brother, and he completely agrees with me on everything, but he's trying also to persuade me to come back because I did a lot of the work! We have parents involved who know what my brother is like, but also sort of minimise it and guilt trip me if I don't absorb it.

I feel like I am going mad.

I left because he told me I was not very good at my job (constantly), because he made it difficult to do my job (because he created chaos or understaffed me), was underpaying me (nobody else was being underpaid), overworking me (to point of physical illness), embarrassing me in front of colleagues (by minimising me, going over my head), saying things about me which were professionally humiliating (and simply not true), and because I had asked him lots of times to stop this behavior and he refused.

I am now being positioned as a "bad sister" and "disgusting person" and as much as my head knows this is just not true, I do feel like I am constantly questioning my own reality.

Am I? Is this normal sibling stuff and I am being a baby? It doesn't feel normal to me :(

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Endofyear · 05/05/2026 21:03

He sounds very unpleasant. You've done the right thing and you need to tell your parents calmly that you're not able to work for him any longer as the stress of dealing with him was making you ill. If they choose to take his side, let them. You know the truth. Do not go back. Find employment elsewhere and don't allow family members to mess with your peace of mind, even if that means minimising contact with them. Family businesses only work when people treat each other with respect. Maybe your family will see the light when you're not there and he finds someone else to pick on.

WhenIsaywhoaimeanwhoa · 05/05/2026 21:26

I have no words of advice unfortunately, but only came on to say that I have a brother who sounds so similar it’s uncanny. I am facing almost exactly everything you write (bar the employment / business aspect). I have been feeling very burdened by it all and kept doubting myself when I stood up for myself finally, as I am feeling like I am to blame. So much of your post resonated with me - I hear you. You have given me a lot of comfort too.

sallymonella · 05/05/2026 21:31

This is not normal at all and if it's making you physically ill you've done the right thing by removing yourself from the situation. It's about having boundaries.

IngridBirdman · 05/05/2026 22:11

I feel a bit incapable of stopping doubting myself. I just keep thinking, "is it me?" as if there is something I could do to just absorb it better.

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WhenIsaywhoaimeanwhoa · 05/05/2026 22:38

IngridBirdman · 05/05/2026 22:11

I feel a bit incapable of stopping doubting myself. I just keep thinking, "is it me?" as if there is something I could do to just absorb it better.

I believe it’s known as the fear obligation guilt cycle (fog)…

Haffway · 05/05/2026 22:58

You’ve done the right thing by resigning. Have you found alternative employment?

The problem with family business is that you never get away from the family dynamics. That presents its own challenges when everything is normal, but with dysfunctional relationships it can become hugely problematic. It’s like your whole sense of reality gets distorted.

The best gift you can give yourself is space. If you can work somewhere where the expectations are normal, it will help reset your nervous systems and let you calibrate normality.

Don’t waste your time trying to make people validate your point of view. Your family can’t because they’re all in the madhouse. People outside will find it hard to credit. You’ll drive yourself mad thinking about it.

They won’t change, and the demands to come back will probably never cease. You probably have to choose between approval and the peace of working elsewhere. They don’t have to agree with you for you to be right.

redmapleleaves1 · 06/05/2026 20:24

I don't have experience of this, but it does sound awful and that you've done the right thing in resigning. What helped me hear my own voice and trust it when I was in a marriage where I was undermined, was first journalling daily and later blogging, anonymously. Rereading what I had written a few months ago, and seeing the sense of it; and having complete strangers hear my voice and reflect it back to me on the blog, helped me trust it wasn't me.
All the best

Holdonforsummer · 06/05/2026 20:27

Run and don’t look back.

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