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Tell me what you think of this (long)

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Monkeytrousers · 19/06/2008 08:08

Briefly, DP has a very limited emotional intelligence quotient. This has been a conscious effort has he did have a very traumatic childhood (dad alcoholic/schizophrenic) and he basically had to be strong for his 3 siblings and his mother who was also alcoholic for a while.

When we got together I knew he thought it a new dawn for him, but slowly and inexorably over the years he has closed his heart off to me, and everyone else, just as he always has done. He even became addicted to prescription opiates (Tramadol) after the death of a close friend a year and a half ago in an attempt to dull his emotions. Our family imploded at this point.

He is now off Tramadol, after a hard battle last year but his heart is even more barricaded. It is very hard to live with - bearing in mind I am not perfect and get frustrated at times. I am an aggressive/aggressive type who likes to face issues and clear the air. He is a passive/aggressive type who sulks and withdraws and then when I explode under the pressure he blames me as the antagonist, never seeing how his passive/aggressive behaviour contributes to it ? but I am well aware that chicken and egg arguments are moot now as we are stuck in a very negative cycle.

Anyway?

He cannot talk about how he feels without it turning into a character assassination ? uses attacking ?you? statements, rather than neutral ?I? statements. I try to bite my lip but after about half an hour of this I inevitably respond to defend myself and then the arguments start, I get blamed for starting them as ?I just can?t keep my mouth shut and let him talk?. He cannot see that explaining his feelings has nothing to do with his opinions about me..

I came up with a plan this morning to try and keep track of our emotional states without getting into major discussion about it and to have immediate but neutral feedback on how we interact and affect each others moods.

It?s (don?t laugh) a ?Defcon? system scanning from Defcon 5 (most open, happy, approachable and relaxed), Defcon 4 (good happy, but with maybe an aura of stress from somewhere), Defcon 3 (Neutral), Defcon 2 (tense, one push and you will go to..) Defcon 1 (seriously pissed off and unapproachable).

I thought if we could check on each others status it might help make each other more aware of our emotions on a day to day basis, and also ease DP into at least thinking about emotions, both his and mine, rather than just blocking them and thinking of them as irrelevant, which he does at the moment.

I don?t know if it will work but I am on my last drop of hope. We have tried so many things which always come down to needing to communicate better, but as that demands a certain amount of emotional awareness, DP always refuses to go there and we slide back into misery ? there?s no other word for it.

We do love each other, but love is not enough to help us here. We have tried Relate but DP sabotaged the sessions when they approached his opiate addiction so he would not have to discuss his reasons for needing them or his emotions in general.

A friend is moving in wither boyfriend in September and she has offered me her old house to rent if things between us are no better. If this happens I really fear DP will totally implode. I cannot see what else to do however, if this doesn?t work as it is so traumatic living with someone who cannot show their emotions and discounts yours as a consequence ? and I also have to think about bringing DS up in that environment.

Thanks for listening

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umberella · 19/06/2008 09:20

I think she has a lot of guilt.

Monkeytrousers · 19/06/2008 09:23

Hmmm. I would just forget about trying to get her onside. If the counsellor is good theyu should get it over to your DP not do discuss his problems with his mother, but with you, his partner.

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umberella · 19/06/2008 11:53

MT, what does 'defon' mean?

umberella · 19/06/2008 11:53

oops, defcon rather!

Monkeytrousers · 19/06/2008 12:35

defcon Quite apt I thunk

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Monkeytrousers · 19/06/2008 12:36

"Standard peacetime protocol is DEFCON 5"

" DEFCON 1 represents expectation of actual imminent attack"

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Monkeytrousers · 19/06/2008 21:49

I am still at defcon 2. Dp says he's at 4 going back to 3 demonstrating that he wasn't listening as per

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umberella · 19/06/2008 21:57

That's hilarious. We definitely need some of that!!

Following on from our chat earlier, I emailed dp's mother to let her know that i am worried that her refusal to acknowledge his dad and that entire half of the family may have led him to drugs again and again in his life because he finds it so hard to cope with. A nice, diplomatic email though.

Went down like a lead balloon.

Oh well!

umberella · 19/06/2008 21:58

And she's visiting tomorrow.

Monkeytrousers · 19/06/2008 22:00

Well you are basically blaming her for his problems. No amount of diplomacy will get around that. That's just human nature.
Hmmm. Think you might have scored anown goal there. How is he going to feel when she tells him about it? I'm not criticising you, just been there and can predict the fallout

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umberella · 19/06/2008 22:06

yes, i'm thinking i will just tell him myself. it really was a nice email - i related it quite badly above...

along the lines of

..lalala
i really hope not to make you feel awkward but know the anger between you and xh has been such a difficult thing for dp to cope with over the years. don't know what the answer is but perhaps now is the time for a collective approach as we are all trying to help but are so separate.
lalala.....

Actually things are so bad that I am past caring about whether she takes the hump. If i don't say it and the shit hits the fan with dp and i, I will always regret not having tried to open communications between them for his sake.

Knew it was a long shot though!!

umberella · 19/06/2008 22:09

I've totally hijacked your thread MT. You have been really patient listening to my drivel!

Back to you.

Have you told dp you will leave him if things don't get better? if so, what does he say?

Monkeytrousers · 19/06/2008 22:10

oh that's much better. Hope for everything, expect nothing! [smle]

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umberella · 19/06/2008 22:15

yes, that's my theory!

MagdaleneBunting · 29/06/2008 18:59

God, that defcon idea was woeful wasn;t it! How embarresing. Desperate meansures or what

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