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Is my ex narcissistic, or was he simply controlling and emotionally abusive?

17 replies

Sunshinemida · 03/04/2026 08:50

I hear the word narcissist flying around and used so commonly these days. I have wondered on occasion if my now ex partner is / has the tendencies. I’m interested to hear your opinion.

a few examples -

he had a very large ego and does think very highly of himself. I did always think it was a bit of a ‘front’ and ‘armour’ but he would always say ‘this is who I am’. Friends of ours pointed it out and again he said ‘I dont change for anyone, this is me, no front’
he thought he was very good looking, which he was but it was something he would say especially in social situations. He always wanted to be seen as the ‘man’ the ‘alpha’ the ‘one who wears the trousers’ - however when it was just me and him, he was lovely, soft and affectionate, majority of the time.

he had a bad temper which I saw a few times. Once we got into an argument and he smashed his phone against the wall and said I ‘made him do it’. In the moment.
Months later he would say things like ‘the argument where you made me smash my phone’. He threatened to smash other things too or he would throw things. If we argued, he could never talk through things, he’d just get angry, sometimes throw things and ignore me.
once i asked why he would ignore me, for sometimes days after disagreements. He would say ‘if I don’t, you wont learn’.
i dont know to this day, what I was supposed to ‘learn’.

he lived in the past in a sense, always bringing up really good past achievements, to validate how good he was or better he was than people he didn’t like or people that had annoyed him.

if he didn’t get his own way, in most situations not just relationally, he would basically fly off the handle and make situations difficult.

in most social situations he loved being the centre of attention. Making a bit of a fool of himself, being loud, sometimes obnoxious. At times I thought he was just enjoying himself but I always had a weird underlying feeling. However I just put it down to his confidence.

he was never really ‘jealous’ with me. But there was a couple of occasions i’d made plans with friends and told him about it. I specifically remember telling him. Then he would say i hadn’t and I was lying to him. On one occasion I went with my friends for dinner at 9pm which was a similar time me and him would go for dinner. And he blew up, saying I was lying, if I was going out to party, why not just say. I was just going for dinner. To put it short he ruined my night and wouldn’t speak to me for a few days. But he would always say to me and to friends, he wasn’t jealous and I could do whatever I wanted.

if I went to visit family he was fine about it, but would say he missed me and didn’t like the distance, if I was away for a week or so. Yet if I was feeling down or not myself he’d be quick to tell me to go visit family.

when we argued he’d tell me to go back to my parents home and he’d pack my bags for me.
Yet it was our home we paid for and shared together. I didn’t live in his house, it was our house.

life was very much his way. If he wanted to do something, he would do it and if I ever moaned about it - he’d get mad and say I was trying to control him. Majority of our schedule revolved around his but then he would be quick to tell me to go do things if I wanted to.

he would never post me on social media, maybe stories occasionally but never main feed. I overlooked it mostly because I didn’t want to sound silly. I posted him on mine because I was proud of the relationship and him. He didn’t post anything for the entire relationship, saying he didn’t use social media like that. Then when we broke up, he posts himself on the feed, posts stories every day.
he’s more active than i’ve ever seen him.

i would do everything domestically, and he would always leave a mess whether it be dishes in the sink, laundry on the floor, which of course i’d clean. When i’d highlight what i’d do. He said house stuff meant nothing to him, as long as he had a bed, tv and sofa. He would also joke to friends we had these ‘fairies’ that do the washing and pick up the mess - i.e me. Which I always laughed off. But he’d never truly thank me for all I did. When I jokingly asked him ‘what would you do if I didn’t cook nice meals’ he said he wouldn’t be with me.

and yes he then broke up with me because I went through a period of being down and not myself. He said he wanted a peaceful home and the relationship felt too heavy and he fell out of love.
he told friends he left me because i was ‘down’.

OP posts:
Endofyear · 03/04/2026 09:34

I mean, he's an ex so at this point, does it really matter? He sounds like a selfish horrible man and you're much better off out of the relationship!

Don't waste your time analysing him. Don't give it headspace. Concentrate on you and moving forward with your life.

applescentedcandle · 03/04/2026 09:40

He could have been, maybe the classic grandoise narcissist. I can't remember all the symptoms but there's definitely superiority and lack of empathy (cruelty).

Do you feel it would benefit you to know one way or the other? I mean, maybe he wasn't diagnosable, but the fact remains that none of those behaviours were ok, and the most important thing is you being able to spot them early on next time.

If someone's horrible but not technically a narcissist, it doesn't mean we should put up with them, not for a second.

I'm so sorry for what you went through.

roobyred · 03/04/2026 09:42

I’m not trained in psychology, but I’d diagnose him as 100 per cent dick. It may not feel like it just now, but you’ve made a great escape. I hope that was cathartic to write it down.

Sunshinemida · 03/04/2026 09:49

roobyred · 03/04/2026 09:42

I’m not trained in psychology, but I’d diagnose him as 100 per cent dick. It may not feel like it just now, but you’ve made a great escape. I hope that was cathartic to write it down.

Weirdly, it actually was.. I don’t think I’ve ever listed all these things before. Especially written down

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AutumnFroglets · 03/04/2026 10:12

No real idea about narcissism but I don't think so based on reading other threads where the traits seem more obvious but he was 100% emotionally and mentally abusing you. Breaking things or hitting walls even when not touching you are classed as physical violence as it's a form of aggression and intimidation.

once i asked why he would ignore me, for sometimes days after disagreements. He would say ‘if I don’t, you wont learn’.
i dont know to this day, what I was supposed to ‘learn’.
Learn not to question him or disagree. Learn not to say no. Learn that only his way and his view was the correct one.

Thank goodness he left OP! How are you feeling now though, less depressed?

Sunshinemida · 03/04/2026 10:16

AutumnFroglets · 03/04/2026 10:12

No real idea about narcissism but I don't think so based on reading other threads where the traits seem more obvious but he was 100% emotionally and mentally abusing you. Breaking things or hitting walls even when not touching you are classed as physical violence as it's a form of aggression and intimidation.

once i asked why he would ignore me, for sometimes days after disagreements. He would say ‘if I don’t, you wont learn’.
i dont know to this day, what I was supposed to ‘learn’.
Learn not to question him or disagree. Learn not to say no. Learn that only his way and his view was the correct one.

Thank goodness he left OP! How are you feeling now though, less depressed?

Edited

Thank you for your response. I do agree as he doesn’t seem like a typical narcissist. I have been in an abusive relationship before so how he acted never seemed THAT bad.
i’m okay though, I think I’m frustrated he ended it with me because I was down. Like everything is always my fault. But i’ll get there

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AutumnFroglets · 03/04/2026 14:14

Are you frustrated that he didn't support you during that period or that he's telling others that's the reason he left?

The former would never happen from an abusive and cruel person and I think you understand that and as for the latter who cares? He doesn't, the people he tells don't, next door doesn't or Dave down the pub. Nobody actually cares except you, but you know the real truth and that wasn't the reason he left. Sure it stings but abusive people lie so just file it under yet another lie he told.

I think you might benefit from doing The Freedom Programme. It's not just for those who want to date again by strengthening your boundaries and teaching you to see those red flags but it will also show you where your weakness was that enabled him to squirm his way in. Unfortunately once you have been in one abusive relationship you are more likely to have another, and another, unless you do some work on the why, which might be hidden in your childhood. Also download the free pdf download of Lundy Bancroft's Why does he do that. It can be eye opening.

Good luck going forwards OP, you are stronger than you think Flowers

BibbidiBobbidiBailiff · 03/04/2026 14:21

Does it matter? I think of the saying "some questions don't require answers anymore" and your question is in that category. His behaviour was awful and you are no longer subject to it. If you would recognise the signs and be aware if you ended up in a similar situation, then you have learned something.

Fabler · 03/04/2026 14:30

It’s based on a comprehensive research programme at Durham University. Increasingly, women are likely to be diagnosed. The tearful, emotional response is a typical narcissistic response making an issue all about them. I get the impression many Mothers and MiLS on MN exhibit typical narcissistic behaviour

Imgoingtobefree · 03/04/2026 14:38

The difference between being a dick and being a narcissist- is that the narcissist convinces you that everything is your fault, and you end up thinking there is something seriously wrong with you.

Being with a dick doesn’t mess with your head the same way as it does with a narcissist. You start to believe they are perfect because that’s what they seriously believe of themselves.

The fact you are asking this question is indicative that you need proof that you weren’t the ‘bad guy’ in spite of everybody here telling you he’s awful. There’s a reason is called Narcissistic Abuse Trauma.

begonefoulclutter · 03/04/2026 15:05

When he left you, the rubbish took itself out. Think yourself lucky that the abusive shit is no longer in your life. There are all sorts of reasons why he behaved the way he did, but the only thing you need to be absolutely certain of is that none of it was your fault.

bigboykitty · 03/04/2026 15:10

I think he has traits of grandiose narcissism, as a PP said. That doesn't mean he's a full blown narcissist. In any case, he sounds vile and I'm glad you're rid of him.

Sodthesystem · 03/04/2026 15:22

I think its called the dsm if i remeber right but you only need 2 out of the 9 points on it to be considered a narcissist. Presumably the people using the checklist are trained psychiatrist/psychologist though.

Its not rare. Some experts put it as high as one in seven. Many say around one in ten.

Abusers, unless substance abuse or alcoholism or severe mental health issues are present, are usually narcissists or sociopaths or similar.

Normally emotionally healthy individuals don't abuse other people.

Sunshinemida · 03/04/2026 18:12

AutumnFroglets · 03/04/2026 14:14

Are you frustrated that he didn't support you during that period or that he's telling others that's the reason he left?

The former would never happen from an abusive and cruel person and I think you understand that and as for the latter who cares? He doesn't, the people he tells don't, next door doesn't or Dave down the pub. Nobody actually cares except you, but you know the real truth and that wasn't the reason he left. Sure it stings but abusive people lie so just file it under yet another lie he told.

I think you might benefit from doing The Freedom Programme. It's not just for those who want to date again by strengthening your boundaries and teaching you to see those red flags but it will also show you where your weakness was that enabled him to squirm his way in. Unfortunately once you have been in one abusive relationship you are more likely to have another, and another, unless you do some work on the why, which might be hidden in your childhood. Also download the free pdf download of Lundy Bancroft's Why does he do that. It can be eye opening.

Good luck going forwards OP, you are stronger than you think Flowers

When you say the former would never happen from an abusive person - what do you mean?

thank you for sending me that programme, im going to look into it! 💕

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Elektra1 · 03/04/2026 18:33

He’s your ex, so why do you care? If you need help resolving your feelings about the relationship, therapy is great (if you find the right person). But that is about YOUR feelings, and why YOU tolerated his behaviour, not about him or what he is or why he is that way.

Daveyouronmute · 03/04/2026 18:40

Is The Freedom Programme is only free if you attend one if you can find one locally? You have to pay online otherwise?
Anyway no wonder you were down OP after going through all of that-he put you there! Anyone would be that low after experiencing all of that and sadly he's still taking up space and energy in your head. Hope you can resolve it in your head and then fully move on. 💐

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