Immature men are to blame for Britain’s ‘missing babies’, report warns – because they delay responsibilities until later in life

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15647951/Immature-men-blame-Britains-missing-babies.html

Typical DM has picked one small part out of the report and made an antagonistic headline out of it, as they do.

Much easier to blame one group of people rather than the societal change successive governments have made, such as 50% going to university (so not starting work until 21 or 22), building an economy around house prices, lack of housing whilst seeing population increasing by 1m+ year (mainly due to immigration) etc.

I can't click a DM link because my phone gets really hot and wants to explode with all the adverts.

Do you want to discuss the report OP?

Although one thing I will say is I wish more people would delay having babies until they're actually ready for them.

I'm sure if you asked the DC, they'd probably agree.

Well I suppose it's a change from 'it's all the womens' fault'

I think it's very sensible of young people to delay parenthood until they are emotionally and financially ready and in a stable relationship.

Where is the acknowledgement that is more difficult than ever to build a stable career and obtain reliable rented or bought accommodation?

Jobs are more unstable and harder to get. Housing is more unstable and harder to get. Young men and young women have been told that they are a threat to each other.

Articles like these are so frustrating. You just can't always control how life works out. I would have loved to have met my partner earlier in life and had children, but it didn't happen like that. Neither of us was immature.

It’s the expense

Agree. Its clearly a multifactorial issue

I would say I saw a woman interviewed who though she never wanted kids. Then once she finally

• met a a good decent man who she married
• was earning a good wage
• had her own home

Ie was in a secure / safe position to have a child

Realised she did want them

I was similar. I was also 38!!!!

Many women in their 20s today will never get to this stage at 40 or even 50... through no fault of their own....

Unless there is meaningful societal changes the continued decline is inevitable

This article says that it was better when the average 24 year old man was married with a child 🙄

@CapacityBrown 37% go to university straight after school. Others go later and msny immigrants did not go here. We have never ever had 50.% going to university at 18/19. Check facts maybe?

Plus some people did meet at university and settle down afterwards. I do think many delay that now because they don’t expect to earn enough to settle down and want to stay single for longer.

My DDs have definitely found men unwilling to settle down. They are like perennial teenagers. Women know they have a biological clock but men can afford to wait and see so don’t commit. The expense puts people off and some people just prefer looking after number 1.

Nothing about economic crashes. Cost of living outpacing inflation. Housing shortages. Low income jobs disappearing. Food and energy prices soaring. Offshoring manufacturing. War.

What a crock.

I thought women wanted older age pregnancies as well?

Well anecdotally, I’d defo have had children younger if the boyfriends in my twenties had been more mature/more committed/not been emotionally avoidant cheats etc. So it makes a change from blaming women. But I expect it’s not as black and white as that.

Here's an alternative, scientific take on the issue (unfortunately the full article is behind a paywall, but you csn get the gist) https://www.newscientist.com/article/2516629-the-real-reasons-birth-rates-are-declining-worldwide/

The uk is not the rest of the world though. We have individual reasons.

It's in the Daily Mail ergo its bollocks.

HTH.

I'm still delaying responsibilities until later in life. I'm in my 60s!