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MIL is a c*nt and I don't want my children to see her without me present

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Ragemcchine · 08/03/2026 15:03

I'm so furious right now and just need a place to vent.

There is a history with my MIL which I posted here about in the past under a different username but the main one was that I overheard her telling my oldest stepson that she loves him and his brother more than my children that I share with DH (so they are just as much her grandchildren). As well as this she has made repeated negative comments about me and my family to DH and my stepsons. My dad is Italian and she has made constant digs about Italians, once she even told DH that I wasnt cleaning my stepson's school shirts well enough because they were starting to go grey (stepson is 15 and we try to encourage him to put on his own washes but he will often mix them despite me suggesting otherwise and I even got those colour run sheets but he doesnt use them). Apparently as I'm the woman it's my fault and responsibility rather than DH's but what pissed me off most was her tellong DH that she "doesn't know how the italians wash our clothes, probably not at all, but in this country we do it properly". She calls my family the mascarpones (imagine our name being something like Marcucci). I stopped speaking to her for almost a year and in that time she didnt once try to see my children (but would see my stepchildren, no one ever stopped her from seeing our children, she just showed no interest). DH asked me to put it behind us before Christmas as he lost a family member unexpectedly and didnt want us to be on bad terms with his mum if she unexpectedly died. I did and everything seemed fine but today my younger stepson told me that he told his grandma that when we went to Italy the Italian drivers didn't stop at zebra crossings. He told me she replied that this is because Italians are all bad people. He said he asked her, "what about rage, she's half italian?" and then said, "and then she said.... oh never mind, I forgot". In my mind given the context and history it's very clear that she has said something negative and he has realised he shouldn't say it so pretended he has forgotten. I didnt want to distress him so I just said okay and left it at that but I'm fucking furious. I have dual nationality and spent a big chunk of my life living in Italy so I still feel very connected culturally and visit regularly to see my cousins and friends and family. I am raising my children to speak Italian as their second language. I am so sick of her twisted shit and don't want my children to ever be around her alone because I think she is toxic and I will never know she's not making toxic comments to them the way she does to my stepsons.

There is no history in terms of other fall outs or arguments between her and I and for years I ignored the digs and quips, she is the type of person who has had an issue with every single one of DH's exes.

DH has gone into hospital today with a really bad abscess so I cant say anything to him about it because he's not well. I just needed a space to vent about it.

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Ragemcchine · 08/03/2026 16:38

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/03/2026 16:26

MIL hates women and sees them as competition. She certainly hates you.

Why would you want your stepchildren let alone your kids to be at all around someone like MIL?. It's not doing them any good either because she is dripping poison about you and dad into their ear and she will in turn further harm their sibling relationship. They should no longer overnight in her home either.

If your DH cannot and or will not step up here then you are going to have to take the reins. Be the so called bad person here!.

That's funny because my mum's words about MIL is that "she is an own goal against women". I cant remember what exactly led to her saying that but I remember it being some horrible nasty comments about another woman (not me surprisingly). She loves to wax lyrical about my stepsons' mum and constantly repeats a particular story about how she went to visit one time when my oldest DSS was just born and his mum had a friend around and told MIL they were just talking about their mental health and MIL's response was to point out the pile of dirty dishes and tell her how when she was young mental health wasn't because even a thing for mothers because they were too busy raising their children and keeping the house clean.

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swanandgoose · 08/03/2026 17:00

Your mil sounds deranged and dumb. Poor you, of course it's up to you to manage your dc's contact with this witch. Actually I take that back, witches are cool but this woman is thick as pig shit.

Petitelength · 08/03/2026 17:26

My MIL was disrespectful to me so she no longer sees me or my child (her grandchild).

trumpisvomitous · 08/03/2026 17:31

Easterbunnygettingawrapping · 08/03/2026 15:59

I recommend Italian lessons for all the dc.. Then you can chatter away and omit mil from any conversations.. Tell her it's important the dc practice at every opportunity...

I would do this, and generally do everything I could to wind her up & piss her off, be much ruder to her than she is to you.
Don't hold back ever, always let her have both barrels, and then some.

Sgreenpy · 08/03/2026 17:32

I haven't spoken to my in-laws for about 15 years, apart from seeing my FIL at Grandfather in laws funeral 6/7 years ago, MIL didn't attend.

My life is no worse because of this.
My husband has recently seen them for the first time in years, as FIL has been diagnosed with dementia.

They do live quite a long way from us though.

My son is now an adult and MIL hasn't seen him since before he went to SCHOOL.

ThereWillBeSigns · 08/03/2026 17:34

This is crazy / who doesn’t like Italians?!

Shecameshesawshesaidfuckthat · 08/03/2026 17:36

Your MIL is a xenophobic racist. In addition to being misogynistic as fuck. The sons these woman raise aren’t usually far behind so hopefully your husband takes after his dad. She should be nowhere near your children even if you are there and your DH should be thinking twice about having her anywhere near his. Horrid woman.

howrudeforme · 08/03/2026 17:39

My mil could be like this. But she wasn’t toxic - just an ignorant country bumpkin. Yours is a nasty piece of work.

I hope you’re bringing up all the dcs to speak italian. Then when she is with you revert to Italian with the kids so she’s verbally pushed out.

Scout2016 · 08/03/2026 17:49

How old are the stepchildren? I think it would be reasonable to say you worry about them and their younger siblings hearing her saying racist things, especially because your siblings are partly Italian.

She's slagging them too with those comments, not just you. It's fine to call it what it is to the older children.

SugarPuffSandwiches · 08/03/2026 18:18

BauhausOfEliott · 08/03/2026 15:42

All I can say is that I agree with your description of your MIL: she absolutely is a total cunt.

I never usually say this about anyone, but yes she is. She's absolutely VILE and I wouldn't want my kids anywhere near her.
Imagine what it's like for them to be absorbing and hearing all that, the favouritism, the putting down of you, their mum, and your /their heritage - she's pure poison. Keep them away from her for their mental health and emotional wellbeing.

SugarPuffSandwiches · 08/03/2026 18:26

Ragemcchine · 08/03/2026 16:12

This caused big arguments between me and him as well. My stepsons don't see their own mum or her family so DH feels it's important for them to have that connection and relationship with who they can and to be fair she has been a constant in their lives and I do think that's important for them.

and to be fair she has been a constant in their lives and I do think that's important for them

At what expense?

Brodo · 13/03/2026 13:37

She sounds like a complete stronza and for what it's worth in my experience Italians are far cleaner than British people (I am British).

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