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Friends but are they really?

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Dearestgentlereadeer · 13/02/2026 15:13

I have a scattered friends group. Never really had a big gang on friends in school, there were pairs of people who would be best friends and hang out in bigger groups, but never big girl groups of friends. My best friend from the age of about 11-21 was very overconfident, outspoken and overall to be honest, wasn't a nice person. I can be direct when necessary, not catty or pulling people apart behind their back, but truthful and straight to the point if it is called for. I found when I started to bite back the friendship dissolved.

I'm now in my 30s, with longstanding relationships. I'm quite a bubbly person and will speak to anyone. I love being around people and encourage my children to be sociable too. I'm the kind of person people come to if they have a problem however, I've noticed the same curtsy isn't repaid. I have learned to be less available over time. More so in the past couple of years, especially after being severely ill last year and people calling me to talk about new puppies, Tinder and asking for tips for job interviews. I was actually in hospital at this point and for the 10 days that followed. Nobody actually took onboard how ill I actually was, despite me saying this and communicating it to them.

I see so many people with fantastic friendships groups, who have girls trips away or girls nights. They make time to be friends and do fun things. My friends are always too busy or never really want to do anything except maybe a night on the town every 8 months. I always reach out and suggest things to do, we are all financially secure but I never suggest anything ridiculously expensive. I suggested a girls night at mine before Christmas; I'd get some party food, we could wear Christmas jumpers or pjs, watch a film and make some cocktails, not placing any cost onto anyone but nobody fancied it. I suggested a themed evening event that I know they like, only one other person was up for it. This isn't all the time but every couple of months I'll see something and think xyz would like that, but it's usually a no.

A couple of years ago, my best friends husband got into great financial difficulties and she was really ill over it. Most weekends she was around mine with her DD, I'd cook for them, they would stay here most of the day. I rearranged plans a couple of times, in order to facilitate them. Once he was back on his feet, I didn't see or hear off her for 7 months. There's been so many times she has ran me down and been quite mean to me to be honest, but I put this down to her having a hard time and lashing out. I did end up throwing something back in her face eventually because I got sick of being supportive and being treated like an idiot.

My other friend got divorced and I was there for her. We'd go out for lunch, would spend hours on the phone supporting her, but as soon as she started talking to an old friend group again, I was no longer invited or good enough. She arranged a holiday away for her birthday and I only found out about it because her mum asked if I was going. I politely declined, as I felt really embarrassed at this point. She did then extend the offer but I didn't take her up on it. We made plans for my birthday last year and she cancelled saying it was too cold however, the next week she was hiking with her new partner in the snow.

I would really love to meet happy, welcoming women who are girls girls and support one another. Who have a healthy relationship with themselves and don't project issues onto others. I'm single (as I've had thrown in my face and the p*ss taken out of me about it repeatedly by a particular person), and would love to spend my free time making good connections. I've recently joined a book club in the hope to connect with likeminded people, but all this has really knocked my confidence and caused self doubt.

I completely understand we all have our own things going on in life, I too lead a busy life however, I'd make time for others gladly. How can I make healthier friendships at my old age, or meet new people? I'm not a very loud person, despite being chatty and I do worry this makes people think I'm unfriendly until they get to know me, at the same time though, I don't want to act like I'm someone I'm not. I think I'm at an age where I don't want to hold space for people who are mean, unkind or unsupportive. I do find whenever I bite back, people hold it against me and I'm the bad guy. I'd love to find people who are supportive and self aware.

Thank you for your help.

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Dinnaeeatallthecheese · 13/02/2026 19:19

Your friends seem to either use or criticise you
Do you become friends quickly ?

I find holding boundaries essential, dont be too available , it seems like you give too much and honestly people dont really respect that

Dearestgentlereadeer · 13/02/2026 19:59

@Dinnaeeatallthecheese the two referenced have been my friends for 23 years and 17 years. As we've grown, they've just become more as above.

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Dinnaeeatallthecheese · 13/02/2026 20:16

Dearestgentlereadeer · 13/02/2026 19:59

@Dinnaeeatallthecheese the two referenced have been my friends for 23 years and 17 years. As we've grown, they've just become more as above.

I meant did you form the friendships quickly not how long have you been friends
There may have been red flags that you missed

I wondering because what you describe teeters on abusive behaviours -crossing of boundaries,using then discarding you and nasty criticism

Dearestgentlereadeer · 13/02/2026 21:29

I don't form friendships quickly no. Just a normal pace. I'm friendly but don't class many people as friends.

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Dinnaeeatallthecheese · 13/02/2026 21:38

I think you are right @Dearestgentlereadeer
that the friendship is gone and if they are" mean , unkind and unsupportive" its time to move on.
Sad but the boundaries are blurred now and its hard to reinstate them. Theirs and yours
Time to put yourself first and accept this is no longer for you
It really doesnt sound emotionally healthy either way

Dearestgentlereadeer · 13/02/2026 21:42

@Dinnaeeatallthecheese I think over time, we've all grown into different people from who we were when we met. I seem to be the but end of jokes, despite actually running my own show singlehanded and without deflecting my insecurities onto them. It is hurtful simply because they were a big part of my life. I respect that we grow and change over time though, and that doesn't mean we aren't obligated to honour poor behaviour. Thank you for commenting on my post.

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Dinnaeeatallthecheese · 13/02/2026 21:46

Dearestgentlereadeer · 13/02/2026 21:42

@Dinnaeeatallthecheese I think over time, we've all grown into different people from who we were when we met. I seem to be the but end of jokes, despite actually running my own show singlehanded and without deflecting my insecurities onto them. It is hurtful simply because they were a big part of my life. I respect that we grow and change over time though, and that doesn't mean we aren't obligated to honour poor behaviour. Thank you for commenting on my post.

All the best Flowers

Runningtowards · 13/02/2026 21:46

they’re not friends if you see them every eight months and they decline to come round when you invite them as ‘they don’t fancy it.’ Sorry, but they’re not your friends.

fedupgobacktotheoffice · 13/02/2026 21:59

To make friends how about joining a walking group, find groups in your local area on Meetup https://www.meetup.com/cities/
join a fitness class and after a couple of weeks ask if anyone wants a coffee afterwards. There are lonely girls groups (https://www.llgc.co.uk/) across the country but I don’t know what age they are for. Do some craft courses and see if you can make friends there, take up knitting or crochet and go to knit and natter groups. Ask, anonymously if you can/want to, on local Facebook groups for events for singles, if there isn’t, could you gage interest and see if anyone wants to meet you to do a pub quiz, I can guarantee you are not alone and wanting to make friends. There may be a professional singles club - though they may be paid. The book club is a good start, but sometimes you have to find the right one. Good luck.

Dearestgentlereadeer · 13/02/2026 22:05

@fedupgobacktotheoffice I will definitely look at the walking groups, as I live in quite a rural area. I've joined up to a pottery course this evening too, so hopefully I'm on the right path. Thank you for your suggestions, they really are appreciated.

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PeppyAmberHedgehog · 13/02/2026 22:11

Dinnaeeatallthecheese · 13/02/2026 19:19

Your friends seem to either use or criticise you
Do you become friends quickly ?

I find holding boundaries essential, dont be too available , it seems like you give too much and honestly people dont really respect that

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I think this is true. I wouldn't suggest a single other get together. Instead look for other activities, not necessarily to make friends. You sound lovely!

Dearestgentlereadeer · 13/02/2026 22:37

@PeppyAmberHedgehog I don't bother anymore and I haven't reached out in over a month. I have heard off them both but it was mainly about themselves. That's my aim for this year; get amongst likeminded people and spend more time enjoying the tasks at hand. Thank you.

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SeanMean · 14/02/2026 07:55

You sound lovely so it’s their loss. 🌺

I hope you make supportive friendships this year.

Thisseasonsdiamante · 14/02/2026 08:05

I was quite similar to you @Dearestgentlereadeer but I’m learning. I think what another poster said upthread about having pretty decent boundaries has been key for me. I’m not always available, I don’t over try any more. I think if a relationship is not naturally balanced then it is very vulnerable to becoming exploitative in the direction of the naturally more naturally giving person.

In the last few years I’ve had to let go of two relationships where frankly I felt like I was being exploited by the friendship. Now I am much more discerning in relationships and my friendships are much better. None of how I was putting myself out there was conscious but universally I was doing way more work in all of them. Now I would say my friendships are far less effort for me and that is a conscious decision.

AnonymouseDad · 14/02/2026 09:29

True friends are there not just for the good times.

I tell my kids that in the hope they understand who to keep close and also to be there for their friends when they really need them.

I am very lucky with my own friends. But I have let go some long friendships over exactly what your friends have done to you.

I had one friend who is always rallied round. When he had no money I bought his shopping and taught him to budget and meal plan. When he was down i'd drive every night to his flat just to give him something to look forward to. My mum even lent him money she could barely afford without me knowing. Then he started doing better and not once called. He was buying expensive things but couldn't afford to pay my mum back. I ended up going to his house to talk and ask for either the money or to return some of his stuff to pay her back. His mum was there visiting and thought I was being unfair. I'm always calm but that made me angry. I did stay calm and explained what a horrible person he was and looking back over our childhood how his mother had failed him by not teaching values. The money was sent back that night and I cut all contact.

But on the flip side. I've got three people I know are true friends. My oldest friend and her husband. We've always been more like the family we chose and good times or bad we've always been there for each other. And an old punk who is so special to me. We met working gigs the back end of 1999 and we've been there for each other through divorce, heartache, good times, success and worries. He's the type to message everyday when he knew i wasn't doing well and if I didnt answer for a day or so would just turn up. When his marriage broke down he called me because he knew I'd drop everything.

People you can talk to and who talk to you about worries or fears without fear of judgement. Who want to share fun times or just a cup of coffee with. They are who you stick with. Have plenty of friends. But as long as you know who out of them will always have your back you will be fine. 3 is enough for me.

IDontHateRainbows · 14/02/2026 09:38

The friendships dont sound healthy. I ditched some long term friendships in my mid 40s, probably a mutual ditching, but now a few years on i have much healthier friendships. Some formed naturally through chance encounters, others I joined a local women's group after you go a few times and are seen as a regular the friendships naturally form so just see it through the initial few meets as new girl.

Dearestgentlereadeer · 14/02/2026 09:45

Thank you so much for all of the above comments. You have all been lovely and I will follow your advice. So much of what you have said is true, I need to keep the boundaries in place I have for clients and associates and apply them to friends too

I've been going through early menopause for over 18 months, in January I was in a very bad place mentally due to medication. I reached out and asked if a friend could meet up or call round, as I had my little one and was really, really struggling. I never received a response. She contacted me last week, asking about something to do with my job. I haven't replied.

I see people who struggle with mental health in my line of work everyday, one of my questions is 'do you have people to lean on and reach out to?', from now on I will ask further questions around this. If nothing else, it's improved my attitude to work.

Hope you all have a wonderful day sharing love with others, or indeed practicing self-love today. Funny enough, I went out with an above friend and their three children this time last year. She left to go to see her other friends and I ended up footing the bill! Today, myself and my children are off to a yurt for the evening, I'm quite excited! Take care 💐

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