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How to overcome grief of breaking up with someone potentially toxic yet seemed perfect on paper?

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ByRoseSnake · 20/01/2026 19:53

Last year, I met a man on a dating app who initially seemed the perfect match. I felt I couldn’t have been any luckier — he was clever, handsome, cultured, held a wide range of talents and shared interests, stable career and a beautiful home. Within weeks, we'd met and impressed each other’s friends and family and he even invited me to visit his family home in Southern Europe.

After this initial burst of romance, cracks started to show. His emotional avoidance and reluctance to engage in conversations beyond surface details left me feeling lonely in the relationship and uncertain about his feelings for me. I was told that I was ‘intimidating’ because I happened to have had more romantic and sexual partners than him, plus I was confident in bed. I was also criticised for certain traits such as clumsiness, unpredictability and talking too much, which I found especially concerning while I struggle with diagnoses of ADHD and PTSD that I manage daily.

At the time, this made me feel I just needed more personal discipline, rather than seek understanding and support. I can’t deny that I also developed an inferiority complex by comparing his stage in life with my own. Whereas he seemed to have it altogether, I’m finishing a PhD and unsure where my career will take me next. I don’t yet own my own property, I have fewer financial savings. I was still raw after an abusive relationship that ended suddenly 18 months prior.

Within three months, I felt that we were simply going through the motions of a relationship that had no authenticity. It was saddening that I could see myself becoming a smaller, quieter person who was less sure of herself again. One evening, after another frustrating weekend together, I finally snapped and broke up with him. I couldn’t cope with the emotional avoidance and cynicism anymore. He was shocked and upset.

Yet - over the course of the next few days, I didn’t feel the relief or empowerment that I had expected through breaking up. I felt terrible grief and regret. I panicked that I had thrown away an incredible opportunity for a relationship and happiness out of impatience and self-sabotage. I wondered had I been the problem — not him? If my life had been at a different stage and my mental health had been better, would the relationship have worked? I even started to fret whether I'd been projecting memories of my previous abusive relationship on to him.

I set about trying to explain that I had been going through a difficult time personally and was thinking and acting impulsively, in the hopes that he would take me back, but he maintained that my decision was final. Things were complicated further when we continued to message regularly. It's now been several months, during which time my mental health has plummeted, taking a serious toll on my work and putting me off dating altogether. Most days have been spent obsessively replaying memories of our time together and regretting my decision to end it. I'm exhausted. I don’t understand why this relationship has had such a vice like grip, despite its shortcomings (I literally wrote a journal entry at the time that stated “I feel emotionally dead inside”)!

I feel so pathetic, but I don’t know right now how to overcome the regret and move on, although I know it's essential now for my quality of life. It’s almost as though he came to symbolise an ideal version of myself and what my life could look like, and that what I’ve been left with is totally inferior. I wish I could just 'get over it'.

My friends encourage me to focus on myself and career before dating again, but it's like I have lost all joy, motivation and confidence. It doesn’t seem to make sense, because I was the person who did the breaking up. How do I make peace in myself and move forward??

p.s. please don't dig into me - I myself know everything would be better if I could just grow a thicker skin and forget about it! x

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BuddhaAtSea · 20/01/2026 19:58

I’d welcome this episode as an opportunity to work on yourself. And that’s not to say you fucked it up and learn your lesson. He sounds like a dick and he messed with your head.
But as an opportunity to think about what you want. If dating him taught you you value a partner who isn’t shallow, hold on to that. If you’d like to live in Southern Europe, go for it. See what I’m saying?
He sounds like he wanted a trophy.

Dolamroth · 20/01/2026 20:00

I think you did the right thing by breaking up with him. He doesn't sound very nice and he didn't make you feel good. Were you with him for 3 months? If so, it sounds like it never even had a honeymoon period.

Your instincts sound right to me, you just need to believe them.

daisychain01 · 20/01/2026 20:07

It sounds like you fell in love with an imaginary perfect person who didn't exist outside your own head.

He isn't who you have been dreaming of, so you need to face that reality and block him out of your life. No more contact, otherwise you'll keep the distorted dream alive.

He has had a big ego boost for several months, don't give him the satisfaction any more. Get rid and move forward from there.

MapleOakPine · 20/01/2026 20:14

Are you still messaging each other OP? If so, knock that on the head as it's holding you back in your recovery.

It's normal IMO to feel very upset when you're the one to finish a relationship. Even though it's your decision, it's still a loss of something that you once hoped would be your future. Could you go for counselling? I think it would help to talk through your feelings.

Edited to add: you sound terrific by the way. You write very articulately and have lots of self knowledge. I hope you recover your self esteem soon.

CarminaBiryani · 20/01/2026 20:18

Ooh I can answer this for you.

A guy was into me who was 'perfect' , Oxbridge grad blah blah blah. Over time I didn't seem to fit the mould and meet his expectations.

We broke up, mainly him but I was having doubts. The phrase great on paper was used by him. I begged him back after a couple of months, he said he had moved on.

A decade on, I've sometimes thought back to how relieved I am as he was a really negative drain on me over the nine months. I've also heard that his marital partner is worn down by his endless negativity and it does not sound like a joyful happy partnership.

So look at it in a different way, you dodged a bullet!

Yorkshirelass04 · 20/01/2026 20:31

I think you sound depressed to be honest and that needs treating to see clearly. It's easy to ruminate and lose yourself with a poor state of mind. You do sound a lovely lady as pp said, and there is someone more positive for you once you're back on an even keel.

Nosdacariad · 20/01/2026 21:51

Look up trauma bonds. It explains a lot.

The continuing to message you but refusing to get back together is to keep emotional access to you while avoiding the accountability of having a relationship.

You didn't imagine the superficiality of your communication and it would not have got better.

FlyHighLikeABird · 20/01/2026 22:00

I agree you do sound depressed, OP, its likely that this triggered you rather than is the sole cause of this I think- if you have PTSD and ADHD then you will be burning out emotionally and physically through all this stress, rumination and depressed thinking. I would treat this as a bout of depression, go to the doctors, I would go on anti-depressants but that's me and they may not be for you, and start building yourself up in terms of checking there's no other issues (e.g. iron low, perimenopausal), put things in place in terms of lifestyle such as meditation or yoga or breaking things (there's places you can go to do this now!), walking and exercise. I'm glad you have friends who can support you.

I don't think the fact you are ruminating on this means it was the right relationship, in fact it was clearly wrong, he sounds absolutely not a good match in terms of emotional supportiveness, openness and availability, and it's fine to need those things, but I think you are ruminating because you have slipped into a depression and you need to get onto that rather than keep stuck in the loop of thinking negatively about yourself, catastrophising etc.

The good news is you sound ace, your writing style is fantastic and he was definitely not a great guy so I feel this is unfortunately the right thing for you in the long run.

If and when you do lift up mood-wise and get back on track, and I think you will do that quite quickly once you get treatment/tackle this as a MH problem, I would suggest using the Burned Haystacks dating method to help you find someone who is going to be a better fit for you and avoid those red flags which may well have been flying from day one. He's not necessarily a bad person, but he's not your person, and that's ok. A life with an emotionally unavailable man who isn't sure what he wants and is making you feel lonely after three months is not what you really want or need. You have a lot going for you once you get over this hump.

HarlanPepper · 21/01/2026 05:11

There's lots here that reminds me of me and my recent ex. Particularly what you say about being a 'smaller, quieter person'. We were together for nearly two years and I broke up with him, and then we reconciled, no less than 4 times within that period. The last time was at the beginning of December last year and it's the final time - I messaged him a couple of weeks ago to tell him I still loved him and he sent me back an actually pretty lovely message to say he'd made his peace with the relationship ending and he didn't have it in him to try again (to be fair, not that he ever really tried anyway, but that's not the point). It was painful but I'm glad he did - I can move on now.

All this to say - don't be like me! The good times were amazing, that's what kept me coming back and what keeps you stuck in this phase. You might need to go 'no contact', at least for the foreseeable. Good luck x

ByRoseSnake · 21/01/2026 16:38

Hi everyone, thanks so much for your replies! I only caught a moment to reply now. They were so kind, reassuring and insightful. I'm feeling a bit more uplifted today - I do have supportive friends and family, but sometimes it can be really helpful hearing from strangers who have experienced similar issues and/or can offer slightly more direct advice! (One or two of my friends have never experienced similar relationship dynamics, so they offered the well-meaning but not very helpful response of, 'oh! Are you sure? Or have you gone slightly insane? He was so perfect!')

I'm really grateful to hear your kinds words, especially about my writing :) that was a lovely boost yesterday. I seem to have forgotten over the last several messy months that reading and writing, among other activities, are all passions of mine that I had sadly lost touch with. Time to cut the cord with Mr 2025 and start enjoying myself again in 2026. No more contact has to be way the forward, and honouring how my body was screaming at me to end things even before my brain was.

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ByRoseSnake · 21/01/2026 16:50

daisychain01 · 20/01/2026 20:07

It sounds like you fell in love with an imaginary perfect person who didn't exist outside your own head.

He isn't who you have been dreaming of, so you need to face that reality and block him out of your life. No more contact, otherwise you'll keep the distorted dream alive.

He has had a big ego boost for several months, don't give him the satisfaction any more. Get rid and move forward from there.

Wow, yes - this reply really hit home. I'm glad that somebody else was able to reiterate that for me, because although those were my theories, it can be difficult to fully accept them once you've been ruminating for so long.

I think we were both falling for imaginary perfect versions of each other - I think that's the main reason why the relationship felt so hollow and could never advance. It wasn't fun feeling as though aspects of me were 'too much', or as though he was moulding me into his idea of what a girlfriend should be (largely inspired by his previous ex, I think - demure, passive, more traditional, etc - she was probably great, I'm just never going to be that woman ha!)

Oh yeah, the ego boost thing really hit hard too. I had suspected for a long time - both in the relationship time and the time post-break up - that it was all about that for him. To the extent that I was continuously anxious that he was privately sneering at me, setting me up, speaking in loaded terms that felt confrontational (and then pretending that it was simply a translation misunderstanding, because English wasn't his first language...), feeding from my insecurities to allay his own etc. I'm definitely not the only woman to encounter this, I'm sure of that.

I did reflect on that today and started reading up on covert narcissism. It really did seem to fit the description... There I was thinking I had been so lucky to avoid another overt/grandiose narcissistic type like my ex!
I'm glad I shut things down, just a little humiliated that he may have been feeding on the attention and validation I continued to give him.

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ByRoseSnake · 21/01/2026 16:52

FlyHighLikeABird · 20/01/2026 22:00

I agree you do sound depressed, OP, its likely that this triggered you rather than is the sole cause of this I think- if you have PTSD and ADHD then you will be burning out emotionally and physically through all this stress, rumination and depressed thinking. I would treat this as a bout of depression, go to the doctors, I would go on anti-depressants but that's me and they may not be for you, and start building yourself up in terms of checking there's no other issues (e.g. iron low, perimenopausal), put things in place in terms of lifestyle such as meditation or yoga or breaking things (there's places you can go to do this now!), walking and exercise. I'm glad you have friends who can support you.

I don't think the fact you are ruminating on this means it was the right relationship, in fact it was clearly wrong, he sounds absolutely not a good match in terms of emotional supportiveness, openness and availability, and it's fine to need those things, but I think you are ruminating because you have slipped into a depression and you need to get onto that rather than keep stuck in the loop of thinking negatively about yourself, catastrophising etc.

The good news is you sound ace, your writing style is fantastic and he was definitely not a great guy so I feel this is unfortunately the right thing for you in the long run.

If and when you do lift up mood-wise and get back on track, and I think you will do that quite quickly once you get treatment/tackle this as a MH problem, I would suggest using the Burned Haystacks dating method to help you find someone who is going to be a better fit for you and avoid those red flags which may well have been flying from day one. He's not necessarily a bad person, but he's not your person, and that's ok. A life with an emotionally unavailable man who isn't sure what he wants and is making you feel lonely after three months is not what you really want or need. You have a lot going for you once you get over this hump.

Thanks, this is also something important to hear :) I do agree that I have become quite seriously depressed and that may or may not have coincided with that relationship, but in any case should be addressed from a MH angle.

  1. Cut contact with Mr 2025
  2. Contact GP asap!
  3. Start therapy again (again hopefully rediscovering all my 'me' things)

Thanks everyone

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Veryproudtobehere · 21/01/2026 16:56

What's great reading your posts OP is you have clarity over the situation, both your ex and your own mental wellbeing. Many often don't get to this stage and things just drag on so it's great you are dealing with things.

Yorkshirelass04 · 21/01/2026 17:05

Pleased you are feeling a bit brighter and the replies have helped put things into perspective. It does seem to me that MH undercurrents can so badly distort your view of relationships and a partner. In terms of who is good for you and who isn't, what is worth fighting for and what isn't. From experience I say that.

WallyHilloughby · 21/01/2026 22:13

Rejection sensitivity dysphoria. I’ve been there so many times it’s hard. Hugs

BackAgain1 · 21/01/2026 22:29

OP read up about emotional avoidants and how much they can trigger you and get you attached. I’ve been in a similar situation with you and the difficulty I had in letting go was so deeply linked to how avoidant he had been, and what glimmers of hope and good memories I then attached onto. Try the instagrams of coachwithasa and her husband _theauthenticman

I don’t think you should blame yourself for anything here. Good luck

aquashiv · 21/01/2026 22:46

You truly seem like a wonderful person with so much going for you. Remember, he wasn't the right one. Take some time to get back out there and enjoy yourself. Don't focus too much on finding Mr. Right; instead, consider having fun in the present moment. That's often the best way to move on and feel better.

MissHelenSweetstory · 21/01/2026 23:33

WallyHilloughby · 21/01/2026 22:13

Rejection sensitivity dysphoria. I’ve been there so many times it’s hard. Hugs

This is exactly what I was going to say, along with emotional dysregulation. They are ADHD traits, and something you may need to look into more. Are you receiving any support post your diagnosis?

mulberrybag5 · 21/01/2026 23:44

Have a read about covert narcissists. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it and you’ll start to heal x

NeurodivergentBurnout · 22/01/2026 07:45

Hi OP. Wanted to share my own experience and add a little advice.
I’m AuDHD, late diagnosed. I was much the same as in I dated a man I believe is a grandiose narcissist, get away after 9 months, but then fell for a covert narcissist and unfortunately married him and had a DC before I saw him for who he has. I’m free now 😊

Anyone who seems ‘perfect on paper’ is probably inauthentic. I agree with reading up and watching videos on trauma bonding and how to break them. You’re vulnerable from an ND point of view. Initially, love bombing and hyperfocus can seem very similar. It’s the motivation behind them that’s different. Hyperfocus is a focus on someone or something where you can’t stop thinks about someone and want to know everything about them. Love bombing, you shower someone with affection, gifts and learn everything about them to reel them in and use it against them later.
To break the hyperfocus - I’d recommend writing a list of everything he did. Then I’d suggest burning it. You need to cut all contact. Block and delete. Delete any photos. Consider getting rid of gifts. If you need help focusing on other tasks and body doubling helps, I highly recommend the dubbii app.

It sounds to me like you are struggling to break the trauma bond and he has become a negative hyperfocus. So the vast majority of your time is focused on him and it will
make you feel low. Also struggling with RSD - yes you broke up with him but because you felt rejected and then he refused to take you back. I’d suggest looking at Somatic healing to soothe your nervous system. You need to be quite firm with yourself and say it’s time to move on, redirect your focus and thank yourself daily for trusting your instincts and getting away from him. It’s time.

ByRoseSnake · 27/01/2026 15:42

Thanks again for the follow up messages everyone! Apologies I couldn't reply sooner - too busy with work etc, but I definitely had a good reflection on some comments and observations made.

Yes, I agree re: rejection sensitive dysphoria. It truly brings me great sadness that this is something that I undoubtedly experience, and will likely have to manage and hopefully unlearn over time. I can see now how many of my former relationships have been affected by this.

It's definitely something I'll be working on my with my new therapist (she's great, by the way! So relieved to have found a good one!)

That said - I am also truly hopefully that the right person is out there! Somebody who feels safe, doesn't withhold clarity or emotions etc.

I realise I'm not the only one going through similar experiences, so hopefully some other readers found some commonality in this thread

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ByRoseSnake · 27/01/2026 15:47

NeurodivergentBurnout · 22/01/2026 07:45

Hi OP. Wanted to share my own experience and add a little advice.
I’m AuDHD, late diagnosed. I was much the same as in I dated a man I believe is a grandiose narcissist, get away after 9 months, but then fell for a covert narcissist and unfortunately married him and had a DC before I saw him for who he has. I’m free now 😊

Anyone who seems ‘perfect on paper’ is probably inauthentic. I agree with reading up and watching videos on trauma bonding and how to break them. You’re vulnerable from an ND point of view. Initially, love bombing and hyperfocus can seem very similar. It’s the motivation behind them that’s different. Hyperfocus is a focus on someone or something where you can’t stop thinks about someone and want to know everything about them. Love bombing, you shower someone with affection, gifts and learn everything about them to reel them in and use it against them later.
To break the hyperfocus - I’d recommend writing a list of everything he did. Then I’d suggest burning it. You need to cut all contact. Block and delete. Delete any photos. Consider getting rid of gifts. If you need help focusing on other tasks and body doubling helps, I highly recommend the dubbii app.

It sounds to me like you are struggling to break the trauma bond and he has become a negative hyperfocus. So the vast majority of your time is focused on him and it will
make you feel low. Also struggling with RSD - yes you broke up with him but because you felt rejected and then he refused to take you back. I’d suggest looking at Somatic healing to soothe your nervous system. You need to be quite firm with yourself and say it’s time to move on, redirect your focus and thank yourself daily for trusting your instincts and getting away from him. It’s time.

Wow, I just had to say you could have taken the words and experiences out of my mouth and mind! This is 100% relatable. Same pattern: grandiose narcissist who shouts and yells and demands attention 24/7 -> covert narcissist (oh, he's quiet and well studied, maybe I got lucky!) who ends up playing mind games, withholding emotion and affection, incredibly insecure in subtle ways that lead them to picking you apart.

I think it's really important to recognise the vulnerability as someone who is ND. I'm going to take this forward with me.

p.s. I'm really focused on breaking this trauma bond now - and I've started activities like yoga alongside therapy, which I hope will help with the somatic side of things!

p.s.s. good progress was made when I finally blocked him everywhere, after he attempted to make contact again. SENDING ME AN AUDIO CLIP OF A SONG HE HAD WRITTEN ABOUT ME HAHA. It's so absurd that I laughed before I felt offended (the lyrics were not very nice.)

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NeurodivergentBurnout · 27/01/2026 16:56

I’m glad my shared experience helped! It’s taken a long time for me to heal but 4 years on, I’m far happier.

Sounds like you’ve taken really positive steps recently. Be proud of yourself! The song is next level but I’m glad all it did was make you cringe!

BlanketBouy · 29/01/2026 18:01

If you're working on a PhD the claustrophobic environment can excerbate any rumination tendencies.

The people can be superstars but there's a lot of shared angst and ennui and the experience can definitely be and feel quite "pointless" at times.

If you are quite disconnected without any solid goals you're vulnerable to love bombers and obsessive weird interactions.

Maybe if you could find other tangible aspects of your life to independently move forward on you'd feel more grounded?

This doesn't have to be buying a house (doesn't make sense and is cognitive load unless you know you want to live somewhere for 10 years).

Find a regular exercise practice or goal (Brett Larkin is good for free somatic yoga on Youtube or do a Couch-5k for spring)

Make extra income through online tutoring or side hustle and start learning about investing (I wish I'd learnt earlier that I didn't need to have The Perfect Career to get a financial head start).

Find one social group or hobby you attend regularly that isn't people you already know or academic.

Take small solo breaks or retreats or days out. Research trying psychedelics in Netherlands for PTSD.

Build your life and confidence up in ways that aren't linked to the PhD or dating.

You won't feel better immediately (and may be hard at first if you have anxiety) but it will build your confidence and independence.

You'll feel you're moving forwards and not stagnating and that you need to get a new life via a relationship.

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