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Is this a relationship???

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ThisGreatBlueMember · 11/01/2026 09:56

I have been with my partner for over 3.5 years. We live in separate houses (he does not want to live together). I live alone and he lives with his adult daughter. I have a large mortgage but work very hard and get by. I am self employed so if I don’t work I don’t get paid and I have recently managed to squirrel away 2 months income so if I am ill or injured I can cover my bills. I work over 50 hours a week and still don’t have a lot left over for savings or luxuries but I manage. I am 52 years old, drive a 10 year old car and live in a small terraced house with a big mortgage. My partner is the same age but lives in a fully detached house, drives a lovely car with a personal plate, has no mortgage, earns more than me and has over 30 times what I have in my bank so is in a very good financial position (he didn’t have this when I met him, he has inherited). I pay my way in the relationship, he comes to my house 3 nights a week and I feed him and my utilities are used and I go to his once a week and have the same. I never ask him for anything financially and we spend the same on each other on Xmas and birthdays. So u can see I am clearly not a gold digger!! We went on holiday a couple of years ago (I paid for myself to go even tho it was a struggle) and met a lovely couple who we have kept in touch with and met up with since. The male partner wanted us to go on holiday with them this year as a surprise for his partner and we readily agreed and dates were sorted etc. He sent me details of holidays that he had found but they will only stay in a 5 star hotel (they are older than us) so they were very pricey. When I said this to him he said “don’t be daft, I am sure D (my partner) will pay for u” - he then messaged back and said that he had heard from D who told him that he would have to speak to me to see if I can afford it and if not, what my budget is. He was taken aback by this but I said it was ok and I said I couldn’t stretch to the ones he had sent but would have a look for cheaper ones and get back to him. I found one a bit cheaper but it was gorgeous and I thought D might put the £400 I was short - goodness, how wrong was I!! D came round, I did him dinner and showed him the hotel and he loved it - when I said I was £400 short he said “well we can’t go then and u will have to let K (our friend) know and it is a real shame” - I was flabbergasted and told D so and told him that if the roles were reversed I would have just booked it for him and paid for it all but he said “my money is my money for me and my daughter, it is nothing to do with you and never will be - I will not contribute a penny towards your holiday, I am sad for K as I know how much he wanted this as did we all but if u want to go, u will have to find the extra money, either work more or borrow it from someone” . I told K we couldn’t go and he was so upset and said that it didn’t sound like a relationship. Friends and work colleagues I have spoken too since have said the same.
is this a relationship?? I was married for 23 years so am new to all this.

i don’t benefit financially, he spends more time at my house with me cooking for him and my power being used,
I don’t benefit emotionally as he has no interest in my life and just talks about his work, his daughter and his house and when I talk about my life it is so clear he isn’t interested in the slightest and when I have any problems he always just says “u will be ok” and that is it!
He doesn’t want to live together as he is happy living just with his daughter (he is paying for her holiday with her boyfriend btw but won’t put a penny towards mine!)
I don’t get anything sexually as he doesn’t have much interest in that and on the rare occasions that he does, it is only about his pleasure lately.
I do love him and having company and cuddles is nice but does that constitute a relationship?
Am I wasting my time? I’m not getting any younger!
Any advice would be appreciated but please, no keyboard warriors who want to be nasty as my mental health isn’t great. Thank you.

OP posts:
Dollyfloss · 11/01/2026 12:08

bluewhitebluewhite · 11/01/2026 10:33

You may be right, but I don’t really understand the dashes thing that everyone mentions when they think something is AI. I trained and worked as a journalist for many years and use them all the time.

Me too.

OP - he sounds shit. No way could I be with such a tightarse. But the showing no interest in you or sex/affection would be as much of a problem for me. He sounds extremely self centred and selfish.

He knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Christwosheds · 11/01/2026 12:17

holymolly2 · 11/01/2026 10:45

Can’t stand mean men. I expect to pay my way but it’s always nice to have someone offer, especially when they can clearly afford it. The way he spoke to you about ‘his money being his’ would give me the instant ick. He doesn’t see you as a partner or equal, just someone to pass the time with.

You can do much better than this mean man.

Agree. Meanness is such an unpleasant trait. I don’t see what you are getting out of this relationship OP. He doesn’t sound much fun, he sounds boring and selfish for a start, and not considerate or caring.

PensionMention · 11/01/2026 12:26

It’s a relationship but not one you should want to be in.

If you had spent equal time between each others houses then that would be acceptable for me. I must admit having done all the child rearing so there is none of that building a life with children if I had to date I wouldn’t sub them ever, I’m a woman by the way. It would be pure 50/50 always.

I think the reason it’s mainly men deemed mean is it’s men who for societal reasons end up with more money. All my single women friends who are in their fifties, this is my age demographic and single are poorer than their ex partners because they all became SAHP or went PT.

Omgblueskys · 11/01/2026 12:41

Op does he treat you to anything, so do you go out for meals, cinema are you expected to pay half,

SparklyGlitterballs · 11/01/2026 12:48

I agree with others. It's not so much the holiday it's the other stuff. No intimacy, no emotional support, no interest in your life. You'll never progress this companionship any further (this is not a relationship), so personally I'd call it quits now. There's being careful with money and then there's this type of meanness. He doesn't want his "partner" to benefit from him by even a penny.

Purplecatshopaholic · 11/01/2026 12:54

Ugh. In answer to your question, no, this is not a relationship. This man does not care about you or your life op. And meanness is such an unattractive quality. Ditch him right now, I doubt he’ll even care.

ProfessorRedshoeblueshoe · 11/01/2026 13:00

He brings nothing to your life. LTB

TwistedWonder · 11/01/2026 13:02

Jellybunny56 · 11/01/2026 11:59

I don’t think he’s unreasonable about his stance on finances for the house/living situation, if I were to separate from my husband then I would also want to protect my money for me & my children, but if he has as much money as you say he does then it does feel ridiculous for him to begrudge £400 towards a holiday that you both want to to on.

Agree with this. In a non cohabiting relationship, especially with no shared DC then imo separate finances is not only sensible, it’s essential.

However that doesn’t mean mot treating each other and offering to help each other out for nice things like holidays.

But as has already been said, the money is the least of the problems here

Sally2791 · 11/01/2026 13:05

Bin him off. You’re much better off single and finding friends/hobbies/ a dog

YodasHairyButt · 11/01/2026 13:06

I’m struggling to see what you are getting out of this relationship? He’s not your partner in any sense of the word is he? I think I’d rather be alone that with someone who has so little interest in me.

LiffLuffLaff · 11/01/2026 13:13

ThisGreatBlueMember · 11/01/2026 11:14

I should have said that I used to go to his a lot more but I got my cat and he is my baby and I don't like leaving him so D has to come over to mine more

Irrespective of that, this D bloke isn’t very nice to you, is he?

I’d bin him off and cuddle the cat.

Newname29 · 11/01/2026 13:27

He sounds like a selfish prick. Gwt rid, you can do a hundred times better

RideTheGoat · 11/01/2026 13:29

He is selfish.

It is a relationship, but a very unbalanced one.

Of course if you decide you're worthy of more and move on from him, he will think it was because you were after his money.

I'd be deeply hurt by his behaviour. I don't think I could continue to see him.

Italiangreyhound · 11/01/2026 13:43

You can do better.

Toss this one back.

2026onwardsandup · 11/01/2026 14:14

I am sorry OP you are worth so much more than this .

Whilst I think it is sensible when there are children involved to protect assets such as property , he is being completely mean .

As a partner of several years , he should be willing to give you treats from time to time . He is much more comfortably off than you and a 50/50 split will not always work as you have experienced with things such as holidays .

That is not to say that he should be subsidising you constantly say to day , which is clearly not the position here . That was so incredibly unkind of him not to pay the £400 difference for a holiday for you both . He showed you exactly what he thought of you then .

Even if his staying at yours more often was at your instigation due to your cat , you will be subsiding him because of this .

If you genuinely love and care for someone you would show kindness and want to make their life easier . He does not provide you with emotional support either and this relationship seems to be all on his terms .

I know it is incredibly hard to feel lonely on your own, but the loneliest thing in life is to be in a relationship when the person you are with does not provide emotional care and support you .
Take care

Missj25 · 11/01/2026 14:31

ThisGreatBlueMember · 11/01/2026 09:56

I have been with my partner for over 3.5 years. We live in separate houses (he does not want to live together). I live alone and he lives with his adult daughter. I have a large mortgage but work very hard and get by. I am self employed so if I don’t work I don’t get paid and I have recently managed to squirrel away 2 months income so if I am ill or injured I can cover my bills. I work over 50 hours a week and still don’t have a lot left over for savings or luxuries but I manage. I am 52 years old, drive a 10 year old car and live in a small terraced house with a big mortgage. My partner is the same age but lives in a fully detached house, drives a lovely car with a personal plate, has no mortgage, earns more than me and has over 30 times what I have in my bank so is in a very good financial position (he didn’t have this when I met him, he has inherited). I pay my way in the relationship, he comes to my house 3 nights a week and I feed him and my utilities are used and I go to his once a week and have the same. I never ask him for anything financially and we spend the same on each other on Xmas and birthdays. So u can see I am clearly not a gold digger!! We went on holiday a couple of years ago (I paid for myself to go even tho it was a struggle) and met a lovely couple who we have kept in touch with and met up with since. The male partner wanted us to go on holiday with them this year as a surprise for his partner and we readily agreed and dates were sorted etc. He sent me details of holidays that he had found but they will only stay in a 5 star hotel (they are older than us) so they were very pricey. When I said this to him he said “don’t be daft, I am sure D (my partner) will pay for u” - he then messaged back and said that he had heard from D who told him that he would have to speak to me to see if I can afford it and if not, what my budget is. He was taken aback by this but I said it was ok and I said I couldn’t stretch to the ones he had sent but would have a look for cheaper ones and get back to him. I found one a bit cheaper but it was gorgeous and I thought D might put the £400 I was short - goodness, how wrong was I!! D came round, I did him dinner and showed him the hotel and he loved it - when I said I was £400 short he said “well we can’t go then and u will have to let K (our friend) know and it is a real shame” - I was flabbergasted and told D so and told him that if the roles were reversed I would have just booked it for him and paid for it all but he said “my money is my money for me and my daughter, it is nothing to do with you and never will be - I will not contribute a penny towards your holiday, I am sad for K as I know how much he wanted this as did we all but if u want to go, u will have to find the extra money, either work more or borrow it from someone” . I told K we couldn’t go and he was so upset and said that it didn’t sound like a relationship. Friends and work colleagues I have spoken too since have said the same.
is this a relationship?? I was married for 23 years so am new to all this.

i don’t benefit financially, he spends more time at my house with me cooking for him and my power being used,
I don’t benefit emotionally as he has no interest in my life and just talks about his work, his daughter and his house and when I talk about my life it is so clear he isn’t interested in the slightest and when I have any problems he always just says “u will be ok” and that is it!
He doesn’t want to live together as he is happy living just with his daughter (he is paying for her holiday with her boyfriend btw but won’t put a penny towards mine!)
I don’t get anything sexually as he doesn’t have much interest in that and on the rare occasions that he does, it is only about his pleasure lately.
I do love him and having company and cuddles is nice but does that constitute a relationship?
Am I wasting my time? I’m not getting any younger!
Any advice would be appreciated but please, no keyboard warriors who want to be nasty as my mental health isn’t great. Thank you.

Hey OP .
Well it wouldn’t be a relationship I’d like to be in 🤷🏻‍♀️.
Not living together wouldn’t bother me .
Not caring about your life , not a whole pile interested in sex , but when he is only for his own pleasure .
This thing with the holiday , yeah he’s mean , you are together 3.5 years .
You always pay your own way , of course he should want to help pay for what you are short so it enables you two to be able to go & be with your friends .
Even your friend is taken aback by it .
I’ll be honest holiday aside , I couldn’t be with someone who doesn’t care about my life , that’s not caring about me .
Also sexually selfish would make me feel used .
He doesn’t bring anything to your life OP .

Gamerlady · 11/01/2026 15:11

Sack him off and don't look back! The fact the tight arse couldn't contribute towards a holiday knowing your short , he sounds horrible. He doesn't invest anything in this relationship other than a convenience for food or sex, You deserve so much better.

iamnotalemon · 11/01/2026 15:36

I don’t think he should pay for your holiday, though he could have said it in a nicer way, but he clearly isn’t giving you what you want or need from the relationship, so I’d move on.

RandomMess · 11/01/2026 15:40

He’s a user.

You provide company for him on his terms.

Ohcrap082024 · 11/01/2026 15:59

A romantic should be mutually fulfilling and supportive. What you have is neither.

He gives you some level of companionship but that’s it. If you are happy with that, then crack on.

But it doesn’t sound like you are happy.

Let’s be clear…the moment you have any difficulty in your life, he will drop you look a hot brick. Bereavement, health problems, financial issues. He will be gone because what you have is just a no commitment companionship.

Boomer55 · 11/01/2026 16:20

ThatAquaRobin · 11/01/2026 10:06

-The OP has no posting history.
-The grammar is pretty much perfect.
-Lots of dashes

This post screams AI to me.

This. 🙄

ThisGreatBlueMember · 11/01/2026 17:11

I want to make it clear, I am not asking him to pay for my whole holiday (as some people have said) as I would not do that, just help with £300-£400 that I am short (which I would pay back in time) x

OP posts:
ginasevern · 11/01/2026 18:28

ThisGreatBlueMember · 11/01/2026 17:11

I want to make it clear, I am not asking him to pay for my whole holiday (as some people have said) as I would not do that, just help with £300-£400 that I am short (which I would pay back in time) x

I don't see why he couldn't pay for the whole holiday quite frankly. It's the sort of thing you do when you're in a caring relationship. But that aside, apart from the occasional cuddle and a bit of company, it's very hard to see what you're actually getting out of this arrangement OP. He's not interested in sex, he doesn't want to hear about your life or feelings, he only talks about himself and his daughter and he won't offer you a crumb of kindness (such as the £400 quid for the holiday). No, that's not a relationship. I'm not sure what it is really. It's obviously some kind of ego trip or a form of convenience for him. I think you're rather humiliating yourself and you'd be better off alone.

ThisGreatBlueMember · 11/01/2026 18:57

I am so grateful to everyone for their advice and comments - my self esteem isn’t great and I always doubt myself so it means a lot and has made me see things clearer x

OP posts:
longtompot · 11/01/2026 22:44

I don’t benefit emotionally as he has no interest in my life and just talks about his work, his daughter and his house and when I talk about my life it is so clear he isn’t interested in the slightest and when I have any problems he always just says “u will be ok” and that is it!
He doesn’t want to live together as he is happy living just with his daughter (he is paying for her holiday with her boyfriend btw but won’t put a penny towards mine!)
I don’t get anything sexually as he doesn’t have much interest in that and on the rare occasions that he does, it is only about his pleasure lately.
I do love him and having company and cuddles is nice but does that constitute a relationship?

@ThisGreatBlueMember Just from this, not the holiday bit, I would say this is not a healthy relationship. A relationship to me would be someone who wants to spend time with me because they are interested in me as a person and care about what is happening to me in my life and visa versa.

I imagine if it was the other way round and your partner was the one who had the least amount of savings so couldn't afford holiday with friends, you would offer to loan it to them, or even pay.

Personally, I would be taking a step back out of this relationship and looking at if it is making me happy in any way, and if it wasn't, would be saying goodbye to it.

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