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MIL helpful, but tiring

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YuzuMochi · 07/01/2026 16:17

Hi all!
I just wanted to ask your advice regarding my relationship with my MIL.
My in-laws live abroad, so we usually only meet them a couple of times per year. However things will soon change as I'm expecting our first baby (their first grandchild) and I'm sure they'll want to visit more often.
I get along with both FIL and MIL well, but my MIL often makes me sad and annoyed and I realise that, while we're in a good relationship, I really struggle with my mental health when I'm with her.
The problem is that she's very old-school and expects me to be the sole carer of the family, she talks to me as if everything is my responsibility and I really struggle with that. She's very helpful and does a lot in the house when they come and visit (she does the laundry, cooks, cleans etc) and she always tells us to rest when they're around, cause they want to be helpful (which is very nice). Of course we also do chores, but if we're at work she does most of them. However, when she does nice things, she always tells ME (not us) she's done the laundry/the shopping/the cooking so that "you (referring to ME only - we speak another language and it's clear that "you" is for a singular pronoun) don't have to do it". When she gives my husband some nice clothes as present, she then addresses to me and teaches ME how to clean it. When she uses something in the house (cleaning products/food) she then tells me "sorry I've finished your (again singular) cleaning product, so I'll buy it again for you (singular)". When we talk about the baby she always talks to ME as if I'll be the only carer. She tells ME how to change the baby, feed the baby, educate the baby. She was telling me how not to spoil the baby and how I should do things once the baby is here. Once, I said that I'll feed the baby, so my husband can actually do the changing, and she was shocked and said it's unfair cause my husband is working and shouldn't wake up to do these things. She often looks at other people and she's in general judgemental, but she particularly criticises women (for example, if a child is having a tantrum she says that "their mother is a disgrace" or she looks at the groceries of other families and says that "women in this country cook a lot of rubbish ready-made meals" , things like that - you know what I mean).

She's in general very helpful and I don't want to be ungrateful, so I never talk back (I'm sure there are much worse MIL out there), but I always feel very sad when she's here, cause she treats me as if everything is my responsibility and I really feel the pressure.

To give you context, both me and my husband are full time workers, I have 2 degrees and an academic career on top of my clinical duties, I work an average of 48h per week (often more - 'cause all the research and studying is outside the working time) and I actually earn more than my husband. However, in her eyes my husband is the career person that needs to focus on his career, while I should be a good wife and take care of him. The funny thing is that she believes to be a very feminist person and she believes women should work and have a career (as long as they do their duties as women and work in the house too)🤔

Of course my husband and I share all the duties. I talked to my husband and asked him to "protect" me from all her pressure, so he shows that he's involved in the house etc, however this doesn't change and she still thinks it should be my role as a woman. She's happy my husband does some chores and she thinks men should "help a bit" too, but even this thought of "men helping" implies that all chores should be women' roles with a bit of "help" from the husbands...
I understand that it's not easy to change the mindset of a 70 year old woman that was risen in a different generation (she's a housewife), but I'm worried cause things will only get worse once the baby is here. They'll come more often and she'll place a lot more responsibilities on me. Once the baby is here, I will actually be on maternity leave, so it's true that I'll be the main carer for the family at that time, but I don't want all the responsibility on myself only and also, maternity leave won't last forever.

We have tried to make clear that women/men roles do not exist for us (apart from childbirth lol), my husband tries to also reply to her when she's talking about chores to me, but she just ignores him because she doesn't think he should be involved in these "women jobs".

Should I just talk to her? She's very resistant to criticism and I know she'll be offended because she thinks she's a feminist and she would be outraged by the idea that actually she isn't. On one side I find it difficult to talk to her, because she's actually doing nice things (helping around), so I don't want to be ungrateful. But every time we spend time together, I always feel upset and sad and I realise that's not good for a healthy relationship either. I could also just ignore these remarks as it'll be impossible to change her beliefs at this point. What would you do? I'm sure lots of you have found yourselves in similar positions!

OP posts:
metalbottle · 07/01/2026 16:19

They'll come more often

This is in your control. You very much need your husband to back you up on this. If visits are more frequent, introduce them to air B&B.

Does your husband secretly share some of her views?

Tortephant · 07/01/2026 16:21

This is your problem not her. She sounds amazing and you should be gratefully she is in your life. Cherish and embrace her. You are very fortunate.

grow up and show some respect.

YuzuMochi · 07/01/2026 16:37

metalbottle · 07/01/2026 16:19

They'll come more often

This is in your control. You very much need your husband to back you up on this. If visits are more frequent, introduce them to air B&B.

Does your husband secretly share some of her views?

Edited

mmmh I don't think so, but for sure these views would be quite convenient for him lol 😅but he hasn't shown to share them and we have pretty equal roles in our relationship 😉
it's true the visits are under our control, but we'd be happy to welcome them if they wanted to come and visit more, they're very helpful and we would love to share the joy of the baby with them, but I'm just worried that she'll be very critical towards me... I guess we'll see how they'll treat me and the option of the B&B might be plan B 😂

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YuzuMochi · 07/01/2026 16:41

Tortephant · 07/01/2026 16:21

This is your problem not her. She sounds amazing and you should be gratefully she is in your life. Cherish and embrace her. You are very fortunate.

grow up and show some respect.

It's true that's my problem, that's the reason why I said I have never talked back to her and we're in a good relationship. I certainly always showed respect to her, but I just can't hide that privately I feel that the way she treats me is unfair compared to the way she treats her son. But you're right to say it's a ME problem, I think I'm just too feminist for this world 😂

OP posts:
thistimelastweek · 07/01/2026 16:53

Her opinions are just that, opinions.
They don't have to affect your actual behaviour in any way at all.
Ignore any remarks that don't chime with your domestic set-up and carry on as you please

Tortephant · 07/01/2026 16:55

@YuzuMochi No, eras change. One day you will be in her situation and think you are being supportive and a wonderful MIL. Accept things change, she doesn’t mean it spitefully, she comes from a different way of operating. Neither is right or wrong.

MadamCholetsbonnet · 07/01/2026 16:57

A breezy “ you are entitled to your opinions MIL but DH and I do things differently” should help.

Or ask her “why are you telling me? Tell DH, he needs to know “

BernardButlersBra · 07/01/2026 17:16

I would be shutting this down now sooner rather than later, as having a child most likely will make her ramp up this stuff. Her rocking up and telling you where you are going wrong, will wear thin very quickly when you are busy and sleep deprived. Especially if she expects you to do everything for baby and for your husband's life to not change at all. She can have her own opinions but that's all they are, they aren't gospel and you don't need to follow them. Plus it's your home and you can run it how you like, she's rude to start telling you whats what in your home

BernardButlersBra · 07/01/2026 17:17

Tortephant · 07/01/2026 16:21

This is your problem not her. She sounds amazing and you should be gratefully she is in your life. Cherish and embrace her. You are very fortunate.

grow up and show some respect.

Wow MIL got here quickly!

She doesn't need to grow up. She works, studies, is married, is having a baby etc. People can live their lives how they want

MadamCholetsbonnet · 07/01/2026 17:20

Tortephant · 07/01/2026 16:21

This is your problem not her. She sounds amazing and you should be gratefully she is in your life. Cherish and embrace her. You are very fortunate.

grow up and show some respect.

@YuzuMochi I think MIL has found your thread…

Tortephant · 07/01/2026 17:25

MadamCholetsbonnet · 07/01/2026 17:20

@YuzuMochi I think MIL has found your thread…

Don’t be ridiculous. As I have said elsewhere eras change. Show respect. One day you will be the MIL.

Catza · 07/01/2026 17:29

You say you expect her to place more responsibility on you. Bit she can't realistically do that. All she does at this stage is talking to you and that doesn't influence any of your decisions, surely. Sure, her views are old-fashioned and I am sure it's tiring. But recognise that the very thing making it tiring is you being annoyed by it. It's very much the case of changing your attitude, not the other person.

MadamCholetsbonnet · 07/01/2026 17:36

Tortephant · 07/01/2026 17:25

Don’t be ridiculous. As I have said elsewhere eras change. Show respect. One day you will be the MIL.

I already am one. I do not treat my lovely DIL like this. I respect her and my son. Respect works both ways.

Tortephant · 07/01/2026 17:41

MadamCholetsbonnet · 07/01/2026 17:36

I already am one. I do not treat my lovely DIL like this. I respect her and my son. Respect works both ways.

Exactly my point! The irony!

blossomhoney2 · 07/01/2026 17:50

I think you just have to accept she is just part of a totally different generation and can only see things her way. Just try not to push against it, let her do her thing when she’s visiting you, agree, nod along, be amicable, accept her help, and then when she’s gone go back to how you were. Try not to think about it too much and be grateful you have a hands on grandparent ready to be involved with their grandchild and support the tired parents. Good luck!

BernardButlersBra · 07/01/2026 18:23

blossomhoney2 · 07/01/2026 17:50

I think you just have to accept she is just part of a totally different generation and can only see things her way. Just try not to push against it, let her do her thing when she’s visiting you, agree, nod along, be amicable, accept her help, and then when she’s gone go back to how you were. Try not to think about it too much and be grateful you have a hands on grandparent ready to be involved with their grandchild and support the tired parents. Good luck!

But she doesn’t agree?! So why does she have to nod along and agree with MIL? How far does this go? Pretending husband does nothing for baby due to his Important Man Job? Pretending OP is going back part time, even though she isn’t and she earns more money?!

Wsiw71 · 07/01/2026 19:48

I'm a MIL and not far off 80. I wouldn't express any opinions on male/female roles. DH and I always shared roles, there were no female/male jobs in our family, only chopping wood, gardening, clearing up outside after pets, which were 'his'!

Mathsbabe · 08/01/2026 15:02

My PIL had these kind of views and I loved my very kind MIL. We were much like you, I was an academic and earned more than DH and worked long hours. I found time helpful. So give them some information and let them reflect on it. My PIL did “come round”. None of us were interested in falling out which really helped.

MrsDoubtingMyself · 08/01/2026 15:20

YuzuMochi · 07/01/2026 16:41

It's true that's my problem, that's the reason why I said I have never talked back to her and we're in a good relationship. I certainly always showed respect to her, but I just can't hide that privately I feel that the way she treats me is unfair compared to the way she treats her son. But you're right to say it's a ME problem, I think I'm just too feminist for this world 😂

You're not too feminist but you are too sensitive.

Why does it matter what MIL believes thinks or says?

She sees you twice a year. If you don't want to see her more than that, don't.

And when you do see her and she says things you don't appreciate, either suck them up and smile or tell her you don't agree

Just because MIL believes X doesn't mean that X is right for anyone other than MIL

Why do you give her so much power over your emotions?

Your husband could definitely do more to stop her rants affecting you if he chose to. Sadly he doesnt choose to help you very much nor support you much

YuzuMochi · 08/01/2026 18:12

MrsDoubtingMyself · 08/01/2026 15:20

You're not too feminist but you are too sensitive.

Why does it matter what MIL believes thinks or says?

She sees you twice a year. If you don't want to see her more than that, don't.

And when you do see her and she says things you don't appreciate, either suck them up and smile or tell her you don't agree

Just because MIL believes X doesn't mean that X is right for anyone other than MIL

Why do you give her so much power over your emotions?

Your husband could definitely do more to stop her rants affecting you if he chose to. Sadly he doesnt choose to help you very much nor support you much

I really agree about my emotions 😭 I really need to work on them, I tend to care too much about what other people think, so I get worried that my in-laws judge me negatively because I'm not the traditional wife.. now that the baby is coming, I feel more stressed cause I'm also worried to be judged as an unsuitable mother ☹️ But you're totally right, I just need to be a bit more detached from my emotions and stop caring about their judgement, particularly if our lives are good as they are! 😅

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YuzuMochi · 08/01/2026 18:15

Mathsbabe · 08/01/2026 15:02

My PIL had these kind of views and I loved my very kind MIL. We were much like you, I was an academic and earned more than DH and worked long hours. I found time helpful. So give them some information and let them reflect on it. My PIL did “come round”. None of us were interested in falling out which really helped.

Oh that sounds reassuring 😅
I do love my MIL very much too, I just get very anxious about her comments, but I am very fortunate to have her. She can be very intense, but she's also very helpful. I'm just worried that when the baby comes she'll be even more intense, but I guess only time will tell.
Your situation makes me hope that maybe we can get along though!

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Onelifeonly22 · 08/01/2026 18:34

My lovely MIL can make similar comments and it annoys me too! I try and ignore some, smile (and ignore) others and some I try and challenge. So if she asks what I’m going to cook that night, I’ll say my husband will cook (even though I do actually do more), when she suggests that I be the one to stay in touch with them (not my husband as he can be rubbish at it) I say that we each take the lead with our families. I really worried about MIL being interfering when I had a baby and she hasn’t been at all so don’t assume it will get worse and spend time worrying for what may not come to pass. Is there a way you can make a joke about it with your husband? Bet on how many such comments in a day etc? It might also help if you look at it that she is almost validating her own life experience by these comments so it might be more about her. Or she still views her son as a bit of a prince so wants someone to run after him…. Good luck!

MrsDoubtingMyself · 08/01/2026 18:46

YuzuMochi · 08/01/2026 18:12

I really agree about my emotions 😭 I really need to work on them, I tend to care too much about what other people think, so I get worried that my in-laws judge me negatively because I'm not the traditional wife.. now that the baby is coming, I feel more stressed cause I'm also worried to be judged as an unsuitable mother ☹️ But you're totally right, I just need to be a bit more detached from my emotions and stop caring about their judgement, particularly if our lives are good as they are! 😅

I agree with you. And ESPECIALLY as the baby is coming....you need to be a strong advocate for yourself as a brilliant perfect Mum for your little one. A confident self loving Mum is a fabulous role model ❤️

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 08/01/2026 18:56

Unpopular opinion(?)

While yes I would find this womens work stuff annoying too...

as someone who has an utterly fucking useless and selfish mil who expects to be perpetually entertained and "spoiled", who can barely hold a baby (even my husband was shocked) who has never changed a nappy / fed them / played with them / looked after them .....
I think yab unreasonable and a bit ott here and i'd work on you and your reactions.

She comes and actually provides some kind of net benefit that comes from a place of love. She clearly loves you and her son but is just old fashioned.
You can nicely say "oh John does the clothes washing so its him who should be thanking you!!!!" vs "women like you are handmaidens for the patriarchy!!!!"

Also She hasn't actually criticised your mothering yet or done anything

If she does you say "experts dont recommend x any more" or "I expected you to be kinder and more supportive. Why would you be so critical?"

HoppityBun · 08/01/2026 19:10

I suggest that you find some way of persuading her that the way she talks makes your DH feel left out. Explain how involved he is in all these aspects of your life and, for goodness’ sake, get your DH to back you up.